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You can all pretty much taste it at this point, right? Madden 12 is really close.

With that in mind, I wanted the staff to take one last look at the Madden 12 demo in this edition of Fact or Fiction. Beyond that, I wanted to get a feel for how hopeful or worried they are heading into the launch-day festivities.

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# 1 Bryzine21 @ 08/22/11 05:29 PM
Madden always comes through in the final product as far as I am concerned. Very good demo=great retail version.
 
# 2 guaps @ 08/22/11 06:04 PM
While all have their valid points, I agree most with Caley.

The Madden 12 demo is the best Madden demo I've tried on this generation of consoles and I also believe it plays best on slow, but it doesn't feel like football to me either. I'm especially annoyed by the passing game and the way the new zone coverage interacts with the running game (plus all the other stuff that Madden usually doesn't get quite right, e.g. special teams and OL/DL interaction).
 
# 3 roadman @ 08/22/11 06:11 PM
A mixed bag of opinions, which is good.
 
# 4 Xotros @ 08/22/11 06:21 PM
Agreed about passing. Defensive players sliding into interceptions kills the passing game and realism.
 
# 5 DeuceDouglas @ 08/22/11 06:43 PM
I honestly never understood the complete infatuation people have for the halftime and weekly highlight shows. From the very little I ever played of that game I maybe watched it the first couple times and then kept skipping it. I'm positive that I'm in the minority here but of all the things I'd like to see added to madden, highlight shows are near the bottom of my list.
 
# 6 Broncos86 @ 08/22/11 07:18 PM
Always a polarizing topic, really. And "Madden feeling like Madden" is not necessarily a bad thing. Tecmo Bowl feels like Tecmo Bowl, and it worked well for the franchise.
 
# 7 Hooe @ 08/22/11 07:19 PM
I thin the presentation will really be held back tremendously by the outdated commentary system that the game uses, but even with that what EA added this year is a tremendous step in the right direction for the Madden series. I'm looking forward to this game.
 
# 8 statum71 @ 08/22/11 07:22 PM
(Presentation being where it needs to be question)


I think EA did good in improving this year. I love the new camera angles and all.......but all three of these guys hit the nail dead on its head in these answers.
 
# 9 Broncos86 @ 08/22/11 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHooe
I thin the presentation will really be held back tremendously by the outdated commentary system that the game uses, but even with that what EA added this year is a tremendous step in the right direction for the Madden series. I'm looking forward to this game.
I always turn off commentary anyways. I like to do play by play in my head.
 
# 10 bukktown @ 08/22/11 08:02 PM
"The passing game is the weakest part of the gameplay."

Fiction.....................It is the underdeveloped dynamic that happens when pass blockers and pass rushers make contact with each other.
 
# 11 rudyjuly2 @ 08/22/11 08:04 PM
I don't think it's fair to trash the commentary as part of the presentation until you get the retail version. I think the presentation is pretty good and a nice step forward.

I like the Slow version of the demo. The players feel and move really nice at that speed. It feels a lot smoother than NCAA.

Passing feels good although EA really needs to add route based passing if they want to make it more realistic. It will open up the outside passing plays.

The demo is certainly a really good step in the right direction. I'm trying to keep my expectations down but this could be the first Madden in a long time that I play significantly.
 
# 12 BlackJackRabbit @ 08/22/11 08:05 PM
I agree that the commentary, replays, highlights, and halftime show needs work, but for the life of me, I can't understand why they keep saying that playaction is semi-useless. If you set it up, especially if you base it off of a routinely successful running play , it's effective.
 
# 13 schnaidt1 @ 08/22/11 08:12 PM
when he said he was crazy impressed with ncaa 12 from demo to final build.....was he high?? all the issues with ncaa 12..including psychic db's all the super linebackers. cpu knowing what ur calling, no blocking for play action passing. and hb screens always being sniffed out by the cpu...

what exactly where u impressed with?

ncaa 12 is unplayable for me.

kinda wanna go back to ncaa 11
 
# 14 RumbleStud @ 08/22/11 08:35 PM
Demo was good, Retail will be better. Gameplay improvements will make Madden 12 the best this gen so far and I don't give 2 sh*ts about the commentary just keep improving the offensive and defensive play on the field and I'm good.
 
# 15 crob8822 @ 08/22/11 11:20 PM
All I can say is next tuesday is madden holiday, there will be alot of empty cubicles, upset co-workers because they will have to cover.
And we (the Madden players) will be in video football bliss.
 
# 16 TheTodd84 @ 08/23/11 12:02 AM
All I can say is that there is just one, simple solution to a lot, if not all, of these issues. Real-time physics. It doesn't have to be rag doll or anything like that, but just the feeling of momentum and weight and things happening realistically. Fifa and NBA 2k12 are improving their collision systems by adding physics, so why can't madden and NCAA? This would make the game infinitely more realistic without really altering the system or the player models. This NEEDS to be implemented. And immediately.

The passing game is a borderline game-killer with the superhuman LBs in full effect and jumping up to make plays they would never, ever make in real life. The issue with that is partially because the trajectory of the football on passing plays is way off. It is almost impossible to throw the ball over a linebacker in between a safety without lobbing the ball and allowing the safety to catch up.

Until these two things are addressed, this game will never reach its full potential and will never feel like what you see on sundays, like caley said.
 
# 17 statum71 @ 08/23/11 12:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissionMaximus
(s38s38s @ 08/22/11 03:59 PM)
The presentation is far from what sets the standard for me, which is NFL 2K5. Game was $20 dollars, and was the most impressive game I've played from a presentation stand-point, it's almost become mythic in the sense younger gamers can't appreciate good presentation because they never experienced something as deep as 2K5's.

I 100% agree with this. The detail and presentation was and still is unrivaled to this day. I remember (to my astonishment) after a penalty I could do a replay and actually see the penalty that was committed be it a facemask, clipping, or holding call. But back on topic I really am looking forward to this years madden I believe it will be the best madden to date.
I can only imagine a combination of the way Madden has improved with the CBS-like camera angles, intros and presentation......coupled with NFL 2K5's: start with host in the studio presenting the matchup, Halftime Show with narrated highlights, and post game wrapup back in studio.

Oh.....and NCAA's custom music feature. So I can add my Fox NFL Sunday and NFL on CBS pregame music.

Now, if we ever see THAT Madden..... I could lose my job. (figure of speech of course)
 
# 18 FlyBri @ 08/23/11 05:21 AM
Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF?

You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...
 
# 19 Deelron @ 08/23/11 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph999
presentation will never be updated without competition its that simple.
It was just updated without any competition. Does it still have a ways to go? Probably but it was clearly updated.
 
# 20 Armor and Sword @ 08/23/11 08:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph999
presentation will never be updated without competition its that simple.

Sigh.

Please. Stop it. Can we please...please not allow another good discussion about Madden fall into this trap of "if they had competition" "Well 2K did this".

Enough. It is so friggin old, tired. And cliche.


I am not a mod but I felt compelled to post this. Because it will turn into a 50 page back and forth rant of the same old tired BS.


Let's just talk about Madden 12. That is the only NFL game with any relevance. That is the reality.

Yes the presentation is still a work in progress. However the demo has given me a nice glimpse of finally getting a TV style broadcast. I love the new camera angles. So far so good.

The next step is dynamic commentary and a more robust halftime, and franchise weekly show. And of course a balls to wall NFL draft presentation package.

As far as gameplay I am very giddy about 12. I think the game feels great.

And the new franchise enhancements are going to make this game the best Madden ever (that is my hope).

Judgement day is coming soon!

Peace.
 

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