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Fact or Fiction: Madden 12 Demo Edition

04:49 PM - August 22, 2011 by ChaseB

You can all pretty much taste it at this point, right? Madden 12 is really close.

With that in mind, I wanted the staff to take one last look at the Madden 12 demo in this edition of Fact or Fiction. Beyond that, I wanted to get a feel for how hopeful or worried they are heading into the launch-day festivities.

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# 21 DeuceDouglas @ 08/23/11 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyBri


	Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF? You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...

What are you waiting for? You already have it. If you want your halftime show and weekly highlight show with Chris Berman, you already have it. Go fire up your XBOX or PS2, update the rosters and be happy with it. Channeling my inner Allen Iverson, "We're talking about Madden. Not 2k. Not 2k. Madden. We're talking about Madden." Madden will never be 2k and 2k will never be Madden.

# 22 RumbleStud @ 08/23/11 10:07 AM

7 days boys. And there's nothing wrong with the passing over LBs. The people that complain about this most (I used to be one of them) are people that only throw the ball 2 different ways, Bullet. or Lob. And believe me there's touch passing in the game and you either haven't learn it or just don't have it and never will.

# 23 TheTodd84 @ 08/23/11 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyBri


	Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF? You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...

Couldn't have said it better myself. This has been repeatedly asked for year after year. Yet, no response from EA. They won't even address the issue on any of these forums. It's a shame really. I can tell you, though, I will not be buying an EA sports game at release ever again. And I especially won't be buying it until either there are 2 or 3 patches and tuner sets are out, or this thing called physics is installed in their games. I will not be buying madden for weeks, and even then, I may not, depending on the issues I hear about.

But FlyBri, they really should utilize the naturalmotion physics. It really is the only thing they can do to save this turd of an engine at this point. Everything else has been tried and has failed miserably.

# 24 Broncos86 @ 08/23/11 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarCityBandit


	This slow versus normal debate is ABSURD. The ONLY way Madden gives you any semblance of a "Real NFL Experience" is by playing on VERY FAST. It is the only way to see the amazing job EA did with this game.

# 25 BlackJackRabbit @ 08/23/11 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deelron


	It was just updated without any competition. Does it still have a ways to go? Probably but it was clearly updated.

Improved and updated aren't synonyms. EA made the presentation better, but it's not up to the standards of the other sports titles of today, so it's not up to date. That's was updating is. It's the process of bringing something up to date. When that process is finished, then it's updated.

If there was competition, the presentation ( as well as other elements) would be much further along than it is currently.

# 26 STLRams @ 08/23/11 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MissionMaximus


	(s38s38s @ 08/22/11 03:59 PM) The presentation is far from what sets the standard for me, which is NFL 2K5. Game was $20 dollars, and was the most impressive game I've played from a presentation stand-point, it's almost become mythic in the sense younger gamers can't appreciate good presentation because they never experienced something as deep as 2K5's. I 100% agree with this. The detail and presentation was and still is unrivaled to this day. I remember (to my astonishment) after a penalty I could do a replay and actually see the penalty that was committed be it a facemask, clipping, or holding call. But back on topic I really am looking forward to this years madden I believe it will be the best madden to date.

I remember in 2K5 that the game would automatically sometimes do a instant replay of the penalty that took place. Its small stuff like that that Madden has to add to the feel of realism and presentation in there football game. I will admit the presentation in the Madden demo is good, and it seems to be headed in the right direction, but for Madden13, there can't be anymore excuses of the presentation not being upto par or better than NFL2K5, NBA2K11, MLB The Show.

# 27 statum71 @ 08/23/11 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarCityBandit


	This slow versus normal debate is ABSURD. The ONLY way Madden gives you any semblance of a "Real NFL Experience" is by playing on VERY FAST. It is the only way to see the amazing job EA did with this game.

Disagree.

"Very fast" feels more like Mario Bros. than football.

# 28 Mike Smoove @ 08/23/11 04:19 PM

The weakest part of the game has to be either the o-line d-line interaction, or the lack of animations period. Not enough catching animations, everybody has the same run animations. Animations are still a bit stiff and robotic. QB play action animations are terrible. Line interaction is pretty much a stand still. And for some reason the defender always seems to toss the blocker to the side as soon as the ball carrier is coming up to pass the block. These are my weakest parts of the game would also include lack of footplanting.

# 29 DeuceDouglas @ 08/23/11 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	We are talking about Madden, and where it could be improved. Try and keep up.

Maybe the bold and colors will help you.

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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas


	What are you waiting for? You already have it. If you want your halftime show and weekly highlight show with Chris Berman, you already have it. Go fire up your XBOX or PS2, update the rosters and be happy with it. Channeling my inner Allen Iverson, "We're talking about Madden. Not 2k. Not 2k. Madden. We're talking about Madden." Madden will never be 2k and 2k will never be Madden.

# 30 turftickler @ 08/23/11 11:06 PM

Nuff said in this video. Period. This is not a sway by any means. Please make up your own minds.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueSimGamer?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/K7mGG0rO6fc

# 31 roadman @ 08/23/11 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by turftickler


	Nuff said in this video. Period. This is not a sway by any means. Please make up your own minds. http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueSimG.../0/K7mGG0rO6fc

Already have, thanks.

# 32 mirrored32 @ 08/24/11 12:07 PM

I was going to blog about what essential things in Madden is very welcomed this year and the breaking point of what EA has done in good and what could be a death kneel for it. For it seems with the demo's it stirs such a fervor over what the REAL game will be. We all know the Demo every year is quite a handicapped idea to what the game really ends up being. I am not sure the demo should even be considered a 'demo' as much as a 'layout' demonstration. how the new HUD will appear and be approached. It is like seeing a trailer for a movie, it never really explains the true emotion of the movie, it is there to just create the hype and wow, not the full reality of the movie. i have seen a lot of movies that don't' have great trailers because they convey the wrong feeling of what the movie's emotion really was. the demo of madden always feels like that to me. should be considered a beta demo preview.

however, the statements in this article bring up some amazingly well put points and rounds it up for me.

"Caley: Fact. However, I'm not sure it's the gameplay as much as the advertising regarding the additions to Franchise mode. As primarily an offline player, I think this mode got some needed attention. Is it all it could be, or once was? Certainly not, but if the little things -- roster cuts, dynamic attributes, tendencies -- pan out, I think it will be the best Madden Franchise mode of this generation."

If the new features pan out. excellent point! i feel that EA's bad rap is really based on stating new features, but then not executing in getting them to work. not to say that they 'all' don't work, but that it seems every year a 'feature' that is in the game is simply broken and that makes us the consumers feel that 'false advertising' is in play. Madden is a huge game with huge marketing and revealing what the 'features are' requires due diligence to make sure on shipping day these features are working as advertised. perhaps they need 'tweaking' but fully working. simply put, as Caley said it best. 'if the little things - roster cuts, dynamic attributes, tendencies -- pan out, it will be the best madden franchise mode of this generation." he calls it little things, which translates to 'details' 'pride' 'solid gameplay' 'providing the features as stated' this is the make or break for me. if they work as intended (room for tweaking but not broken) then success. I worry because of the track record of Madden, this is a shaky hope. but i will dare it because i wan't it to work so bad. the demo doesn't even show anything of what the franchise mode is except talk. lets see what is when i pay my $60. wish there was a demo mode for offline franchise mode somehow. then i would be happy with a demo. franchise is what madden is for me. i could care less about 'play now'.

"Christian: Fiction. Like Caley said, I know some folks don't like comparisons, and I especially hate using this example, but if NFL 2K5 was able to give us deep halftime and weekly highlight shows, complete with highlights from across the league, there is no excuse to not see these presentational features in a game like Madden 12. The new camera angles, banners and introductions are a great start, but until broadcast replays, graphical breakdowns and highlight shows are added, I can't say presentation is where it should be."

"Dustin: Fiction. It's nice going third here because now I don't even have to bring up games from the past. All I have to say is the "bar" for presentation was set years ago. It's time to set it again. "

up to recently I always rolled my eyes when someone brought up 2k5. I played 2k something and always felt the gameplay was never Madden. IMO. (welcome to your own of course). But what I didn't know was what the presentation was. when I just recently saw the presentation of 2k5's NFL I about crapped my pants. 2005!!! we are in 2012 madden here. Dustin is right, the bar is set and Madden needs to start working on presentation for 2013. 2012 is a excellent step in the right direction. the demo hints at it with the visuals and HUD for play now, but not commentary so the full game will tell the tape, but there is a long way to go. the bar is set.

# 33 jetup2343 @ 08/24/11 06:48 PM

I just hope they don't decide that this year's visual presentation is good enough and then they won't improve it at all next year. That would stink.

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