01:18 PM - July 8, 2011 by CRMosier_LM
Justin Dewiel, Community Manager of Madden NFL, has made a post on the EA Forums detailing the current status and future of Online Franchise in Madden NFL 12.
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Madden 12 News Post
01:18 PM - July 8, 2011 by CRMosier_LMJustin Dewiel, Community Manager of Madden NFL, has made a post on the EA Forums detailing the current status and future of Online Franchise in Madden NFL 12.
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# 121
ANDROMADA 1 @ 07/08/11 09:22 PM
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It is surprising to me because so much effort was put forth in so many other areas besides online franchise. If there isn't enough "time" to complete a task then management and or ownership should reallocate resources accordingly. This would go a long way toward establishing repeat and referral business with the customer base, increasing shareholders value, and increasing profitability in the short and long term.
# 122
RogueHominid @ 07/08/11 09:30 PM
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At the very least, you'd think by now they'd have corrected the playoff tie-breaker system, which has been wrong for two years now.
In Madden 11, you could still play an entire season, get screwed by the game's faulty tie-breakers, and be left out of the playoffs, where all you and your league commish could do was say tough luck; get ready for next season.
And people wonder why no one plays this mode. You put 3 or 4 months into playing a league and you get screwed out of your experience because the game can't calculate a simple logarithm.
In Madden 11, you could still play an entire season, get screwed by the game's faulty tie-breakers, and be left out of the playoffs, where all you and your league commish could do was say tough luck; get ready for next season.
And people wonder why no one plays this mode. You put 3 or 4 months into playing a league and you get screwed out of your experience because the game can't calculate a simple logarithm.
# 124
Still2REal @ 07/08/11 09:39 PM
IT never ceases to amaze me that people still get surprised at the bogus moves made by EA.
I mean these guys pull this "short development" cycle every year and there is never a shortage of people willing to defend them because the idea of an invite to community day is so huge for them...
1) We made Online Franchise Server side so we can add all the features that the fans demand....
3 years later and no changes...
2) Offline is more important than online...
Then why spend so much time on MUT and microtransactions.
3. Fans demanded Offline updates and we respond to fan demand.
Then why did it take this long to add some stuff into Offline franchise that was present years ago.
4. We truly are listening to the fans.
Show me a post where people were begging for MUT or 3 vs 3 play.
Just admit that you folks are out for cash. WE all know revenue is all that matters
5. We made 100+ improvements so we couldn't get to Online
List them all and watch us all laugh in your face
6. The new guy will be the savior he has vision.
WOW never heard this line before. LEt me guess his dream was always to program MAdden and he is committed to producing what the fans demand. LOL, can't wait for the new Twitter account and the cries of how we don't understand his job
7. No one uses Online Franchise.
YEah because it's a joke.
Long story short they are waiting for the last possible moment to implement Online FRanchise just so they can use it an "ace in the hole". I guarantee when it shows up they will have it microtransactioned out where the best franchise cost an extra $15-$20 to run properly. Probably a monthly fee and everything like some WOW game.
WE should all know by now that you get 1 BIG upgrade per year and it's really more like every other year, with some bogus feature in alternating years.
It's all good though..we got 3D grass
I mean these guys pull this "short development" cycle every year and there is never a shortage of people willing to defend them because the idea of an invite to community day is so huge for them...
1) We made Online Franchise Server side so we can add all the features that the fans demand....
3 years later and no changes...
2) Offline is more important than online...
Then why spend so much time on MUT and microtransactions.
3. Fans demanded Offline updates and we respond to fan demand.
Then why did it take this long to add some stuff into Offline franchise that was present years ago.
4. We truly are listening to the fans.
Show me a post where people were begging for MUT or 3 vs 3 play.
Just admit that you folks are out for cash. WE all know revenue is all that matters
5. We made 100+ improvements so we couldn't get to Online
List them all and watch us all laugh in your face
6. The new guy will be the savior he has vision.
WOW never heard this line before. LEt me guess his dream was always to program MAdden and he is committed to producing what the fans demand. LOL, can't wait for the new Twitter account and the cries of how we don't understand his job
7. No one uses Online Franchise.
YEah because it's a joke.
Long story short they are waiting for the last possible moment to implement Online FRanchise just so they can use it an "ace in the hole". I guarantee when it shows up they will have it microtransactioned out where the best franchise cost an extra $15-$20 to run properly. Probably a monthly fee and everything like some WOW game.
WE should all know by now that you get 1 BIG upgrade per year and it's really more like every other year, with some bogus feature in alternating years.
It's all good though..we got 3D grass
# 125
xITSxDAWKINSx @ 07/08/11 09:43 PM
this is such bs. if they were working on a game for a year like they said why doesnt very game mode get worked on. i will be getting madden only because i love football but madden 12 should have been madden 2009 and 2009 should have been madden 2007. it took ea to long to get here. online play is so big now and they dont work on online franchise. one day there will be a better nfl game then maddens and when that happens madden will have to put some real work in
Wow is all I can say right now, one of the biggest modes I use is not getting Amy love at all! I swear this has to be a joke, no way they would do something like this. Im going to cancel my pre order and wait for a used copy or something.
# 127
goldstandard @ 07/08/11 10:21 PM
The lack of improvements to Online Franchise after 3 years is absolutely inexcusable. From the time of it's just been a perpetual disappointment. When the details were released for Madden 10, already people saw that the features within OF were lacking. EA covered this by the infamous "we can update to what the community wants" defense, and yet all year nothing was done.
Progress is supposed to be a part of any video game, so when Madden 11 rolled around I (Like many others) impatiently waited for news on the Online Franchise mode that had so much potential and then had the bomb dropped on me that the mode was untouched. This absolutely infuriated me, but I love the NFL and against my better judgment bought the game. (NOTE This is the first year I bought NCAA also and that will be an important point)
Three years ago I was a high school sophomore, and Madden Franchise was in a very early developmental state...In 2 months I'll be a freshman at The Ohio State and Online Franchise will be the exact same thing,and that is inexcusable to every loyal patron the Madden has(d). I dismiss all notions that OF is "Not Used' or that most gamers are still off line oriented. That is simply not true, and even if I assumed the latter to be true it doesn't excuse the biggest part of Madden's online to go untouched.
I find it appalling that every year EA can say "we did so much else the time wasn't there to address it" and just leave it at that, but after 3 years I refuse to take that. Complacency is a terrible thing and, to me that is the trap madden has fallen into, becoming complacent with their product because they know it will still be bought. Complacent is really the perfect word. I won't say lethargy, because i firmly believe that they do believe that their product this year is adequate and an improved experience, however i disagree you can't address something (Off Line)in favor of something else (Online) and call it a success. That effectively means you're doing half your job.
I can't wait for NCAA 12. I enjoy the game play, and can't wait to immerse myself in the deep online and online modes. It saddens me that I can't say the same about Madden this year. I LOVE THE NFL. I love waking up Sundays and trying to find a way to watch my Eagles play (I live in Cali) and listening to Faith Hill pump me for some Sunday Night Football. That's what kept me buying Madden, but I can't justify myself doing that this year. I may rent the game to avoid being the only one in my Xbox live circle without the game, but I will not purchase it. A developer early on in this thread said it's a priority next year, and I really hope that will be the case.
Progress is supposed to be a part of any video game, so when Madden 11 rolled around I (Like many others) impatiently waited for news on the Online Franchise mode that had so much potential and then had the bomb dropped on me that the mode was untouched. This absolutely infuriated me, but I love the NFL and against my better judgment bought the game. (NOTE This is the first year I bought NCAA also and that will be an important point)
Three years ago I was a high school sophomore, and Madden Franchise was in a very early developmental state...In 2 months I'll be a freshman at The Ohio State and Online Franchise will be the exact same thing,and that is inexcusable to every loyal patron the Madden has(d). I dismiss all notions that OF is "Not Used' or that most gamers are still off line oriented. That is simply not true, and even if I assumed the latter to be true it doesn't excuse the biggest part of Madden's online to go untouched.
I find it appalling that every year EA can say "we did so much else the time wasn't there to address it" and just leave it at that, but after 3 years I refuse to take that. Complacency is a terrible thing and, to me that is the trap madden has fallen into, becoming complacent with their product because they know it will still be bought. Complacent is really the perfect word. I won't say lethargy, because i firmly believe that they do believe that their product this year is adequate and an improved experience, however i disagree you can't address something (Off Line)in favor of something else (Online) and call it a success. That effectively means you're doing half your job.
I can't wait for NCAA 12. I enjoy the game play, and can't wait to immerse myself in the deep online and online modes. It saddens me that I can't say the same about Madden this year. I LOVE THE NFL. I love waking up Sundays and trying to find a way to watch my Eagles play (I live in Cali) and listening to Faith Hill pump me for some Sunday Night Football. That's what kept me buying Madden, but I can't justify myself doing that this year. I may rent the game to avoid being the only one in my Xbox live circle without the game, but I will not purchase it. A developer early on in this thread said it's a priority next year, and I really hope that will be the case.
# 128
The Real Ma$$ive @ 07/08/11 10:24 PM
I feel they could've at least added a pre-season to the online franchise. The thing I hated the most was that after you worked hard picking the perfect draft picks to fill holes in your team you didn't have time to test them out, or see what they were working with.
You had to just throw them out there on week 1 which left many of your rookies down the depth chart with no chance to see action until you were like 6-2 and were comfortable seeing what they could do.
You had to just throw them out there on week 1 which left many of your rookies down the depth chart with no chance to see action until you were like 6-2 and were comfortable seeing what they could do.
# 130
threattonature @ 07/08/11 10:30 PM
This just made me take my Madden off preorder and go back to NCAA once again. I love Online Dynasty and was extremely excited thinking that Madden had finally made it similar to the offline experience.
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could care less about online play. can't stand some of the stupid stuff people do. aka quitting on you in the 4th quarter. Never played online, never will, just on that reason alone.
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I could care less about MUT or any other DLC, but if people are buying it up like crazy, that's where some of their efforts will go.
It's not about us, it's about the revenue.
Ive never had anyone quit in any of my leagues, I see that happening in online exhibition games. Yes the improvements made were needed, but for a feature get less action than tim tebow is ridiculous... seriously.
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I understand why people are disappointed, but I think a lot of you are very naive if you expected more.
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I don't think it's reasonable for sales to even take a hit from this, especially due to improvements in other areas.
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I do not understand the "most unplayed mode" talk that these devs keep saying when I was in atleast 6 online franchises up until a couple months ago and trimmed it down to just 2 as it got busier in my personal life. This is proof that we are indeed getting shafted when MUT gets everything those guys asked for and more.
If EA wants my money, then go ahead and charge for online franchise modes and features, but they better be well worth the price of admission and not just some "beta test" version and then have to shell out the next year for a full featured mode with DLC to keep it fresh and dynamic. But this is just me being mad talking, so dont think too much into that!
I am very upset at this and cant help but to vent about it on all my madden forums. I dont even know what to even think now, maybe its just time to move on. Maybe the casuals have won over the big wigs at EA, i'll just try to get into COD or something like the rest of the guys and just shoot people all day or get back into basketball.
I am very disappointed and I thought and heard that new features could be added in with an update like most other games now days, but EA is not even capable of that.
Now this "is madden building on a broken foundation" is really startin to come full circle now. Im gonna go thru this whole thread and read what the faithfuls have to say now. I am shocked!
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