01:42 PM - June 3, 2011 by Steve_OSMadden 12 News Post
01:42 PM - June 3, 2011 by Steve_OSMadden NFL 12 Videos
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# 101
Armor and Sword @ 06/04/11 09:46 AM
Sounds like they really revamped Gus's play by play.
Getting more and more excited by the week.
Getting more and more excited by the week.
I have to give the Madden team credit for trying to make so many radical changes to the game in a one year cycle. When you read the blogs on Dynamic Player Performance. Even the developers of the game are trying to let the community know that the new features are not just recycled Madden features.(Madden 08 weapons comparison)..... I do think that the implementation of DPP is a great idea. How it works remains to be seen. In theory, It is a radical and refreshing approach to the game.
This video does more harm than good. I am going to buy Madden 12 for sure. So it won't affect a die hard football gamer like me but this "sizzler" is not an authentic representation of Madden 12's DPP feature and the superstar like feel to the audio work done by Gus Johnson. One can only dream that the game has this type of immersive audio feel to it. For a game that professes to be "True". This video is not "true to the actual video game".
This is going to feel like a brand new game for sure because of the new franchise and dpp features but the gameplay looks just slightly different so far. The animations are still very wooden looking. I am going to give the visuals a pass because this isn't the final build but the gameplay looks untouched. Which is not a good thing. The ice skating and the unrealistic looking football animations appear to be the same as years past.
In the future, What I'd really like to see is the madden team showing videos on how they mo-capped player motion and moves for the game. It's nice having Reggie Bush in cool sneakers at Tiburon but while he is there, Can he motion cap his running and playing style?.... The game needs new motion captures and an upgraded animation system. You wanna be true to the game, Be true to NFL players movement and motion.
This video does more harm than good. I am going to buy Madden 12 for sure. So it won't affect a die hard football gamer like me but this "sizzler" is not an authentic representation of Madden 12's DPP feature and the superstar like feel to the audio work done by Gus Johnson. One can only dream that the game has this type of immersive audio feel to it. For a game that professes to be "True". This video is not "true to the actual video game".
This is going to feel like a brand new game for sure because of the new franchise and dpp features but the gameplay looks just slightly different so far. The animations are still very wooden looking. I am going to give the visuals a pass because this isn't the final build but the gameplay looks untouched. Which is not a good thing. The ice skating and the unrealistic looking football animations appear to be the same as years past.
In the future, What I'd really like to see is the madden team showing videos on how they mo-capped player motion and moves for the game. It's nice having Reggie Bush in cool sneakers at Tiburon but while he is there, Can he motion cap his running and playing style?.... The game needs new motion captures and an upgraded animation system. You wanna be true to the game, Be true to NFL players movement and motion.
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Damn you EA! You had to use my team and lay the smack down on the egirls and get me all pumped for football!!!!
I am going to need some will power to not buy on day one.
Nice video.
I am going to need some will power to not buy on day one.
Nice video.
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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...rformance.html
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And when EA's PR division (who'll do everything to prevent the game from looking bad) cannot make videos better looking than this, then I'm not impressed.
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Even hard core Madden folks who have hammered Madden in the past, have slightly praised the animations in the thread I'm linking.
Also, a developer mentioned this video is severely out of date, but that keeps getting ignored as well.
I'm not that impressed with this video, but I can tell a difference in the one I linked.
Even KJ made a post in that thread and stated the animations looked better than this one??
To each their own.
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I'm just referring to the fact that not all hardcore fans are swept away by these videos, even if developers keep telling us that it's outdated, because the fact of the matter is that it's always outdate. The build at e3 will be outdated, and when people try the demo it will be outdated too.
I guess what PGaither84 and others (me included) are trying to express is that these issues have been in the game for years and it annoys us.
And yes, KJ said the linked video 'at least looked better' and I agree with that, but that's not saying that you're impressed.
Strange that they would put this video out, with out of date player models and voiced-over commentary.
# 114
Philliezfinest @ 06/04/11 11:21 AM
The commentary sounds great if that is how it is during the actual game mane dat would b great
# 115
SageInfinite @ 06/04/11 11:22 AM
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I agree that video looked alot better imo as well.
# 116
at23steelers @ 06/04/11 11:23 AM
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# 117
BrianFifaFan @ 06/04/11 11:47 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2673ZHGK_Q
So while the point could be made that Madden has to viewed in a stand alone manner, or along side NCAA, the point is also valid that it looks like it's still not up to the point of being "wow" worthy. Now I do have a hard time believing that Madden will get up to the above level in the remaing cycle time. Old build or not. This isn't a "meh" or "that sucks!" from me. It's more about whether or not I can overlook the shortcomings that are and have been evident in this series for some time. It's about if I love playing a football game enough to cast a blind eye.
I loved NCAA, played it a bunch until Nov. Then both Fifa and NBA2k came out. Didn't buy Madden at all. Here's the problem. As soon as I really got into both, NCAA became a coaster. Permanently. This from a pretty rabid Michigan fan. Game just lost it's gleam in light of not one, but two, clearly superior games. Not having last years Madden never even caused a pang of regret. I still love football IRL, but the videogame version is really starting to lose it's grip on me. No more Gamestop at midnight, it's not a good enough, or should I say fresh enough, game to warrant it. Until an updated animation/locomotion engine and some really good physics are implemented, I'll be compelled to look at this game as a Christmas money purchase. And normally by then any compulsiveness is gone. I'm waiting for two patches and reading all the feedback before I take the plunge. That after 7 staight years of Day one buy.Just saying......
# 118
mdistefano @ 06/04/11 01:15 PM
didn't we see dynamic performance in Tecmo Super Bowl? Players would go from bad to excellent from game to game. Barry Sanders when excellent would be unstoppable...as would Bo Jackson
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Phil Frazier came out in a interview and stated that phyics is on the horizon for Madden. How long that is, hard to tell. Cam Weber has also stated that physics needs to play a bigger role in Madden.
I'm not saying it's wow worthy either, just noticing a few people who have been disappointed with Madden on NG noticing slightly better animations in the other trailer.
It's not for everyone.
# 120
BrianFifaFan @ 06/04/11 02:00 PM
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There are guys like Michael Young and Donny Moore who I can see are busting their collective chops trying to hide all of the blemishes. Problem is this game is a blonde. A pretty blonde, yet still BLONDE. You can paint over the warts to a point. But we all know that this games problems are in the brains of the game, not the pretty part. You can make the game have presntation values and depth, you can make the players attempt to move around in the way that it looks like they fixed zones, but they just slide differently. I maintain that this series needs a basic "engine"-level makeover. Tweaking the code ain't enough, it needs reworked. Fifa got $40 million from Peter Moore for a reboot. They need to put the same money into Madden. Seeing as it is the cash cow. Oh wait, WAS the cash cow.... That would now be Fifa...
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