Madden NFL 12 Video - Dynamic Player Performance Sizzle Trailer

[at23steelers]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScriptOhio

I'm glad you said it AJ cuz I have been biting my tongue because.I know I would have.been crucified on here for telling them. I have honestly never seen such nit picking in my entire life. The. Video is old, it is to shown off dPP an# thats it. You people waiting for the demo to make the call.... Good luck the demo has probably already been submitted to Sony and Mircosoft and guess what? They are still working on the game. So what you see on the demo is a general reference only and not a direct representation of the game... Just like last year.

I understand what you're saying but at the same time, EA chose to the release the video at this point in time, not us. Maybe they should have thought about having the video with more recent animations and not a few months old. They could have had Gus' voice and what he sounds like in the actual madden game instead of a voice over. It's because of EA's decisions on what went into this video that is getting criticism. I wouldn't blame that on anyone but EA.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Surprized, Guaps, I really am. Even hard core Madden folks who have hammered Madden in the past, have slightly praised the animations in the thread I'm linking. Also, a developer mentioned this video is severely out of date, but that keeps getting ignored as well. I'm not that impressed with this video, but I can tell a difference in the one I linked. Even KJ made a post in that thread and stated the animations looked better than this one?? To each their own.

I think the problem lies in the fact that we are also watching vids like these: http://www.ea.com/soccer/videos/fifa...BN6YdZB8bhz35s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2673ZHGK_Q

So while the point could be made that Madden has to viewed in a stand alone manner, or along side NCAA, the point is also valid that it looks like it's still not up to the point of being "wow" worthy. Now I do have a hard time believing that Madden will get up to the above level in the remaing cycle time. Old build or not. This isn't a "meh" or "that sucks!" from me. It's more about whether or not I can overlook the shortcomings that are and have been evident in this series for some time. It's about if I love playing a football game enough to cast a blind eye.

I loved NCAA, played it a bunch until Nov. Then both Fifa and NBA2k came out. Didn't buy Madden at all. Here's the problem. As soon as I really got into both, NCAA became a coaster. Permanently. This from a pretty rabid Michigan fan. Game just lost it's gleam in light of not one, but two, clearly superior games. Not having last years Madden never even caused a pang of regret. I still love football IRL, but the videogame version is really starting to lose it's grip on me. No more Gamestop at midnight, it's not a good enough, or should I say fresh enough, game to warrant it. Until an updated animation/locomotion engine and some really good physics are implemented, I'll be compelled to look at this game as a Christmas money purchase. And normally by then any compulsiveness is gone. I'm waiting for two patches and reading all the feedback before I take the plunge. That after 7 staight years of Day one buy.Just saying......

[mdistefano]

didn't we see dynamic performance in Tecmo Super Bowl? Players would go from bad to excellent from game to game. Barry Sanders when excellent would be unstoppable...as would Bo Jackson

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

I think the problem lies in the fact that we are also watching vids like these: http://www.ea.com/soccer/videos/fifa...BN6YdZB8bhz35s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2673ZHGK_Q So while the point could be made that Madden has to viewed in a stand alone manner, or along side NCAA, the point is also valid that it looks like it's still not up to the point of being "wow" worthy. Now I do have a hard time believing that Madden will get up to the above level in the remaing cycle time. Old build or not. This isn't a "meh" or "that sucks!" from me. It's more about whether or not I can overlook the shortcomings that are and have been evident in this series for some time. It's about if I love playing a football game enough to cast a blind eye. I loved NCAA, played it a bunch until Nov. Then both Fifa and NBA2k came out. Didn't buy Madden at all. Here's the problem. As soon as I really got into both, NCAA became a coaster. Permanently. This from a pretty rabid Michigan fan. Game just lost it's gleam in light of not one, but two, clearly superior games. Not having last years Madden never even caused a pang of regret. I still love football IRL, but the videogame version is really starting to lose it's grip on me. No more Gamestop at midnight, it's not a good enough, or should I say fresh enough, game to warrant it. Until an updated animation/locomotion engine and some really good physics are implemented, I'll be compelled to look at this game as a Christmas money purchase. And normally by then any compulsiveness is gone. I'm waiting for two patches and reading all the feedback before I take the plunge. That after 7 staight years of Day one buy.Just saying......

The NHL video really wowed me. Unfortunately, I'm not a hockey fan and only follow my sons playing soccer, so, that's the first time I saw those.

Phil Frazier came out in a interview and stated that phyics is on the horizon for Madden. How long that is, hard to tell. Cam Weber has also stated that physics needs to play a bigger role in Madden.

I'm not saying it's wow worthy either, just noticing a few people who have been disappointed with Madden on NG noticing slightly better animations in the other trailer.

It's not for everyone.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

The NHL video really wowed me. Unfortunately, I'm not a hockey fan and only follow my sons playing soccer, so, that's the first time I saw those. Phil Frazier came out in a interview and stated that phyics is on the horizon for Madden. How long that is, hard to tell. Cam Weber has also stated that physics needs to play a bigger role in Madden. I'm not saying it's wow worthy either, just noticing a few people who have been disappointed with Madden on NG noticing slightly better animations in the other trailer. It's not for everyone.

I feel you. But it can never be said that I'm a *****. You know how much time and all of the long-winded posts about wanting this game to be good. Now I'll grant I was always Mr. Fifa and praised it all the time on this board. But only to say "hey, Madden could be this and benefit from this tech." I really want Madden to be the best it can be. I love my Bengals and have played Madden for a long time. Since 93 on my Sega Genesis. But I'm not that big a Madden addict to say that this game is top notch. It's almost in Triple Play territory with me. It's about time for a MVP-like makeover.

There are guys like Michael Young and Donny Moore who I can see are busting their collective chops trying to hide all of the blemishes. Problem is this game is a blonde. A pretty blonde, yet still BLONDE. You can paint over the warts to a point. But we all know that this games problems are in the brains of the game, not the pretty part. You can make the game have presntation values and depth, you can make the players attempt to move around in the way that it looks like they fixed zones, but they just slide differently. I maintain that this series needs a basic "engine"-level makeover. Tweaking the code ain't enough, it needs reworked. Fifa got $40 million from Peter Moore for a reboot. They need to put the same money into Madden. Seeing as it is the cash cow. Oh wait, WAS the cash cow.... That would now be Fifa...

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

I feel you. But it can never be said that I'm a *****. You know how much time and all of the long-winded posts about wanting this game to be good. Now I'll grant I was always Mr. Fifa and praised it all the time on this board. But only to say "hey, Madden could be this and benefit from this tech." I really want Madden to be the best it can be. I love my Bengals and have played Madden for a long time. Since 93 on my Sega Genesis. But I'm not that big a Madden addict to say that this game is top notch. It's almost in Triple Play territory with me. It's about time for a MVP-like makeover. There are guys like Michael Young and Donny Moore who I can see are busting their collective chops trying to hide all of the blemishes. Problem is this game is a blonde. A pretty blonde, yet still BLONDE. You can paint over the warts to a point. But we all know that this games problems are in the brains of the game, not the pretty part. You can make the game have presntation values and depth, you can make the players attempt to move around in the way that it looks like they fixed zones, but they just slide differently. I maintain that this series needs a basic "engine"-level makeover. Tweaking the code ain't enough, it needs reworked. Fifa got $40 million from Peter Moore for a reboot. They need to put the same money into Madden. Seeing as it is the cash cow. Oh wait, WAS the cash cow.... That would now be Fifa...

You would think Moore would sink something similar into the flagship of the franchise to reboot the game, but no, instead we get the future is in MUT and "extras" to charge the customers.

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[PSRusse83]

Looks like Cutler was posing as Eli in this video.