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NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

02:27 PM - May 24, 2011 by mike10003

Check out the latest NCAA Football 12 blog, featuring the recently announced Dynasty feature called, Coach Carousel.

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	"Hi NCAA Football fans, NCAA Football 12 designer Jordan Peterson here, and it is my privilege to provide you with a more in-depth view of one of the new features in Dynasty, Coach Carousel. Coach Carousel has been one of the top requested features each year from the community and the new addition of coaches, and contracts, will add even more depth to Dynasty. When starting an Online, or Offline Dynasty, you will be able to create a new coach or use an existing coach. There are three coach positions available: Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator. As the Head Coach, you will be in control of the entire team and held accountable for completing contract goals both on and off the field. Coordinators, however, are only responsible for their side of the ball, and the CPU coaches will run the other half. Only controlling one side of the ball creates additional drama to your Dynasty games as you watch each play of your CPU controlled offense attempting to march down the field for a game-winning drive. This can keep you on the edge of your seat, cheering your team to pull out the victory."

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# 61 Bullet Sponge @ 05/24/11 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WatsonTiger


	How the ** are people complaining about this? Holy **. I need to sit down.

lol no kidding, man. It looks the main thing getting some people annoyed is that coaches don't have stats that influence the onfield play. But I really don't think this is a big deal at all. Sure a coach's skill might provide a bump to player awareness, but that's about it. The main things that affects a team's chances (no Kirk, not penalties) are the skill of the players and the system they're playing in. From a coaching standpoint the main things he does to affect the team are recruiting and playcalling, both of which the human does. And as stated numerous times, coaches do affect progression and recruiting with their stats.

It's like some 2k cult that has to piss on everything EA does no matter what it is. I wish we'd get a 2kSports college game as much as the next guy for competition's sake, but I can also see this year's game has an amazing amount of new stuff and I can't wait to play it. Let's hope they continue with this level of yearly improvement...

# 62 sparkdawg777 @ 05/24/11 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gosens6


	Actually in the blog it said the coaches prestige rating effects a number of thing including recruiting, player progression, Etc. So don't say coaches are all pointless because you're wrong

There is no Etc. It's only recruiting (1 pitch) and player progression, that's it. The only other thing it effects is which coach a team hires.

With that being said, the only thing I wanted that 2k8 had was coach ratings which to spend all this time on this mode can't be that hard to implement. Now I'm not bashing them because I still think this mode will work this year but not to the extent that coaching ratings would bring. The only way to understand this is to play CH2k8.

Now I wanted to say one more thing about the recruiting, I agree that the last "recruiting game" in 10 was too easy, but 11's was unrealistic. However I think with 1 tweak, JUST 1 tweak it can be realistic. Keep the random topics, but they represent what the recruit wants to know so these topics should be at least an Above Average interest that the recruit has for that topic. Like I said before the reason it is unrealistic is because we get a random topic that not only the team has a low grade in but the recruit has no interest in. This makes no sense!

Coach: Sells player for academic prestige

Recruit: Has no interest for academic prestige

Coach: School's Academic prestige is a D

Result: -10 points

See what I mean?

# 63 sparkdawg777 @ 05/24/11 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by georgiafan


	You think in real life when you are talking to a elite recruit on the phone that he is always gonna wanna talk about what you want him to? If your are always picking the topic you can talk about just the things you are good at it. The random pitch in my eyes is the recruit who has offers from 10 other schools just as good as you picking what he wants to talk about. College recruiting is very serious buisness and coaches use every minor detail to there advantage. How is it realstic if i'm always picking my top 3 things im rated good at. At time the recruit is gonna wanna talk about stuff that UF is better at then I am.

It's funny that you quoted me but obviously didn't read what I said.

I NEVER stated that the '10 recruiting was good. I did say if it is random it should be only topics that the recruit is interested in! You read from left to right, top to bottom...

# 64 ACardAttack @ 05/24/11 06:08 PM

So as a HC I assume you can control both side of the balls and the OC and DCs only control their side of the ball if you are them.

I am worried that say Bama fires Saban or whomever or they retire, then they higher another A+coach...will he be a guaranteed success? I hope to see coaches who should be home run highers strike out, sort of like Steve Kragthorp at Louisville or Zook at Flordia.

# 65 arobbi3 @ 05/24/11 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkdawg777


	Now I wanted to say one more thing about the recruiting, I agree that the last "recruiting game" in 10 was too easy, but 11's was unrealistic. However I think with 1 tweak, JUST 1 tweak it can be realistic. Keep the random topics, but they represent what the recruit wants to know so these topics should be at least an Above Average interest that the recruit has for that topic. Like I said before the reason it is unrealistic is because we get a random topic that not only the team has a low grade in but the recruit has no interest in. This makes no sense!

"So coach, FSU's coach tells me they are better academically than your school?"

Even if the recruit isn't high on academics, it isn't nice to hear negative things about the schools you are entertaining. Even if it's not a high priority to the recruit, all of the pitches are still important in making a decision. I love the random pitches, keeps you from spamming the good (which anyone can sit back and do). It also involves luck a little luck to be on your side which is completely true to actual recruiting.

# 66 mvb34 @ 05/24/11 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanMcEZ


	so will schools like army, navy and airforce only sign coaches who run the triple option? i think itd really ruin the game if 6 years down the road in a dynasty you play navy and they are running a spread offence, just not realistic

Why could that happen? Who's to say those teams might get I guy that wants run some spread..

# 67 prowler @ 05/24/11 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mvb34


	Why could that happen? Who's to say those teams might get I guy that wants run some spread..

That's exactly what happened in an image they posted.

I imagine the only time an option team would poach another school's option OC is if it loses its own OC. If an option team loses its head coach, it'd likely hire whoever it wants, regardless of offensive style.

# 68 sparkdawg777 @ 05/24/11 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by arobbi3


	"So coach, FSU's coach tells me they are better academically than your school?" Even if the recruit isn't high on academics, it isn't nice to hear negative things about the schools you are entertaining. Even if it's not a high priority to the recruit, all of the pitches are still important in making a decision. I love the random pitches, keeps you from spamming the good (which anyone can sit back and do). It also involves luck a little luck to be on your side which is completely true to actual recruiting.

Ok.. first off if the recruit has low interest in academics he wouldn't ever bring it up.

Second if FSU pitched that to him he would say "Coach FSU I don't care about academics, I just want to play football"

# 69 schumj @ 05/24/11 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanMcEZ


	so will schools like army, navy and airforce only sign coaches who run the triple option? i think itd really ruin the game if 6 years down the road in a dynasty you play navy and they are running a spread offence, just not realistic

Navy used to be a pass heavy team (Staubauch), Army just returned to the triple option with their new coach, and Air Force uses a Multiple offense which includes option as well as shotgun and other formations, so it wouldn't be that unrealistic. I just wish recruiting had changes for these teams as well as no redshirting, etc.

# 70 Solidice @ 05/24/11 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by prowler


	That's exactly what happened in an image they posted. I imagine the only time an option team would poach another school's option OC is if it loses its own OC. If an option team loses its head coach, it'd likely hire whoever it wants, regardless of offensive style.

well in that picture, the fired OC from TTU became the head coach for Army(I assume the old Army coach was fired, and with a B+ prestige, the TTU OC was a steal for Army in video game terms). we don't know who the OC of Army is, it could be another Option based OC.

# 71 TN - BRAVES FAN @ 05/24/11 07:16 PM

I think I'll start off as the offensive coordinator at USC, then go to Tennessee for only a year, and then take the head coach job at USC...hahahaha. (too bad we can't import/export coaches between madden and ncaa, or i'd make a stop in Oakland for a year....hahaha)

# 72 hbk_wess @ 05/24/11 07:24 PM

I like a challenge...so ill probably take a 1 star school's OC job and see just what I can do from there.

# 73 cts @ 05/24/11 07:37 PM

I love videos! You can talk all you want about something, but to see it in motion takes it to another level.

On a side note: I just found out about the option to ignore posts from certain users.

Greatest. Addition. Ever.

Now browsing these forums over the next couple of months, or so will be much more enjoyable!

# 74 DorianDonP @ 05/24/11 07:40 PM

I'm very interested in seeing how the CPU controlled CC will play out over the course of multiple years in Dynasty. I'm concerned that the good teams in 2011 will be the same good teams in 2021. I'm hoping for bad coaching hires so that the landscape of the super powers will change every so often. Texas doesn't stay on top forever. Bama doesn't. Florida doesn't, etc, and Oregon will rise, Boise will rise, and West Virginia will rise, etc.

I'm also hoping that in 2020, there won't by 70 teams running the triple option or something like that. Hopefully the the generated coaches in the game don't get random coaching styles, but they stay in proportion to the coaching styles of the coaches in real life. The majority of the teams should have pro-style/spread offenses.

# 75 cts @ 05/24/11 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DorianDonP


	I'm very interested in seeing how the CPU controlled CC will play out over the course of multiple years in Dynasty. I'm concerned that the good teams in 2011 will be the same good teams in 2021. I'm hoping for bad coaching hires so that the landscape of the super powers will change every so often. Texas doesn't stay on top forever. Bama doesn't. Florida doesn't, etc, and Oregon will rise, Boise will rise, and West Virginia will rise, etc. I'm also hoping that in 2020, there won't by 70 teams running the triple option or something like that. Hopefully the the generated coaches in the game don't get random coaching styles, but they stay in proportion to the coaching styles of the coaches in real life. The majority of the teams should have pro-style/spread offenses.

I'm interested to see the down-the-road effect of everything, also. Do the versions that the handful of people that have the game not allow for you to sim multiple seasons? I'm assuming not, since some thing probably aren't finalized yet.

# 76 canes21 @ 05/24/11 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_Drake_Ramore


	There are two wishes I have. First is that I wish you would just STOP posting because you are pessemistic, ill-informed, unintellegent, whiney, nonsensical, and you will never be happy with anything EA Sports can or will do. At the end of the day I'd prefer if you do not buy and play any EA Sports game and stick with your 2K releases. My second wish is that you would change your forum avatar, because I am a huge Braves fan and you are completely representing them badly with your antics in this forum. Can I get a Whitness?

I find this post a bit comical. I'm okay with you disagreeing with me, but their is no need for name calling. Saying things like I am whiney, unintelligent, etc. is just silly and plain wrong.

And to say I will never be happy with EA Sports is completely wrong. The last game I played on my 360 was Fight Night Champion, an EA Sports game. Also, chances are I will be buying NCAA 1w during the midnight release. I am very disappointed in how the CC has turned out, but the retuned CPU recruiting, improved defense, and other additions are enough to make me spend the $30 it cost me to buy the game.

I may come off as someone who hates EA, but I do not mean to be like that. I truly appreciate their efforts, but at the same time I don't like how they've handled the CC. To me the most important part is ratings, so it seems pointless to me. That is my opinion. I hope I am dead wrong in what I have said, but I doubt the CC really does much this year outside of having teams switch schemes every few years. Other than that it will pretty much be the same dynasty mode we've had in terms of coaches and their effects.

# 77 Da Hype Iz Real @ 05/24/11 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by osubeavs721


	i dont think you come off as someone who hates EA, i just think you have unrealistic memories of 2k8. though. the only thing really different in NCAA 12 (from the info they released) and 2k8, is that in 2k8 you get to hire your assistant coaches.

There were more ratings for coaches teaching/offense/defense and there was a rating for how ambitious assistants were.

# 78 canes21 @ 05/24/11 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by osubeavs721


	i dont think you come off as someone who hates EA, i just think you have unrealistic memories of 2k8. though. the only thing really different in NCAA 12 (from the info they released) and 2k8, is that in 2k8 you get to hire your assistant coaches.

I still play 2k8 to this day. I probably get in 5 games a week on average, so those memories are very fresh. Coach ratings do matter or at least with the sliders we use. I can definitely tell a difference in how players have progressed the past few years compared to when we started the legacy. I also can see major differences in defense because I now have sported the #1 defense in my conferences the past few years and its not the recruits I am getting. Yea, they're better, but me an my assistants are making these players gain defensive skills through our ratings and throughout practices my players are gaining more points in their Def rating than ever before.

# 79 sniperhare @ 05/24/11 08:06 PM

So if you're playing as an OC you don't control your players? All you do is call plays?

# 80 Gosens6 @ 05/24/11 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by canes21


	I still play 2k8 to this day. I probably get in 5 games a week on average, so those memories are very fresh. Coach ratings do matter or at least with the sliders we use. I can definitely tell a difference in how players have progressed the past few years compared to when we started the legacy. I also can see major differences in defense because I now have sported the #1 defense in my conferences the past few years and its not the recruits I am getting. Yea, they're better, but me an my assistants are making these players gain defensive skills through our ratings and throughout practices my players are gaining more points in their Def rating than ever before.

Even so, the comparisons are getting a bit ridiculous. 2K sports made CH2K8, not EA Sports.

EA Sports obviously didn't copy exactly how 2K did it and why should they? It's their first year putting this feature in and they want to do it their way. So the comparisons to a game that was put out in 2007, by a different company, who obviously had a different vision just need to stop and stop now.

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