01:40 PM - May 3, 2011 by RoggieThis video is also available on the OS Youtube channel, please subscribe while you're there.
NCAA Football 12 Designer Ben Haumiller talks about the changes to zone coverage in NCAA Football 12.
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01:40 PM - May 3, 2011 by RoggieThis video is also available on the OS Youtube channel, please subscribe while you're there.
NCAA Football 12 Designer Ben Haumiller talks about the changes to zone coverage in NCAA Football 12.
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# 61
Kaiser Wilhelm @ 05/03/11 10:04 PM
Is it just me or does it look like the D-Line actually gets off the line more realistically.
I do not have the most keen eye but it seems that the D-Line will move forward off the snap, rather than stand straight up and then forward.
The speed of the baackpeddal/sidestep still looks a little odd.
I do not have the most keen eye but it seems that the D-Line will move forward off the snap, rather than stand straight up and then forward.
The speed of the baackpeddal/sidestep still looks a little odd.
I'll be honest, that was very disappointing to watch. DBs were floating all over the place, linebackers were backpedaling faster than receivers were running, and all the defenders seemed to react way too fast. The problem last year was that the defenders never committed to a route, they just stood around and let receivers run around them, so certain routes were almost always open. What this video looks like is that the defenders still aren't committing to routes, they're just floating around super fast covering all routes and jumping ones as you push the button. What they really should be doing is copmmitting to a route and trusting somebody else to cover the other routes. Good passing schemes are designed so that you force a defender to go one way and leave the other guy open. That won't work if the defender can just float around covering both guys.
# 63
LionsFanNJ @ 05/03/11 11:06 PM
...Did I just see an edge rush??? 
Very nice. And i can deal with the sliding, its been in the game for years and i'm used to it. I would be nice if i got tweaked. The zone coverage/pre snap movement looks great too.
I'm really going to enjoy the game this year. Though i already see the whining about zone's too good, and a day 1 or close to it patch, and well never see the zone coverage fix again.
Very nice. And i can deal with the sliding, its been in the game for years and i'm used to it. I would be nice if i got tweaked. The zone coverage/pre snap movement looks great too. I'm really going to enjoy the game this year. Though i already see the whining about zone's too good, and a day 1 or close to it patch, and well never see the zone coverage fix again.
# 64
frankrizzo380 @ 05/03/11 11:21 PM
great vid, but i never had any problem taking away the skinny post or any other over the mid passes to TEs and/or slot WRs, never had any problem with stopping RB flats passes either, wish we could see some base 3-4 defense plays tho!
# 66
backinblack23 @ 05/04/11 12:39 AM
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Great to hear that's fixed, that's pretty much why the NCAA 11 was such a score fest!
I watched this video at work with no sound, but there seems to be several where the safety (who should cover the top of the routes while the corner protects underneath), drops underneath for the interception.
There's also a lack of videos on the transition between zones. A good way to beat zone coverage is to have crossing receivers that move from one side of the formation to the others. I'd be curious to see some videos to see if the quality of the defenders influences it. It happens all the time that one defender will cover his receiver for too long and then have to play catch-up to the other ones because his team mate did it correctly.
Basically, I hope that zone coverage will not become the one and only way to defend. Currently, they showed it worked well (of course, you wouldn't show your new system and how it could be beat), but if zone coverage means no dropped coverage and risky moves that always turn into interceptions, why play man coverage.
I hope also that it will be possible to play mixed man/zones, where you leave your #1 CB on the #1 WR while the rest of the defense plays a zone. That's a risky move since you have one player less to cover the zones, but it's not an unusual defense when you have a very good corner.
There's also a lack of videos on the transition between zones. A good way to beat zone coverage is to have crossing receivers that move from one side of the formation to the others. I'd be curious to see some videos to see if the quality of the defenders influences it. It happens all the time that one defender will cover his receiver for too long and then have to play catch-up to the other ones because his team mate did it correctly.
Basically, I hope that zone coverage will not become the one and only way to defend. Currently, they showed it worked well (of course, you wouldn't show your new system and how it could be beat), but if zone coverage means no dropped coverage and risky moves that always turn into interceptions, why play man coverage.
I hope also that it will be possible to play mixed man/zones, where you leave your #1 CB on the #1 WR while the rest of the defense plays a zone. That's a risky move since you have one player less to cover the zones, but it's not an unusual defense when you have a very good corner.
# 69
ThisIsReality @ 05/04/11 06:30 AM
The speed of the players back pedaling and side stepping is ridiculous. But they have two more months to tweak the nooks and crannies.
Poor zone coverage in NCAA 11 was the single most broken part of the game. Its music to my ears when the EA guy said "we are allowing zone coverages to take away the skinny post by the slot reciever and tight ened"...
Thank God, anybody on 3rd-12 could fire the ball up the middle to the slot WR and have success at least 80% of the time. It was one of the biggest money plays in years...
Thank God, anybody on 3rd-12 could fire the ball up the middle to the slot WR and have success at least 80% of the time. It was one of the biggest money plays in years...
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The video looked really good.
# 72
thescorpio1985 @ 05/04/11 02:52 PM
Let the defense keep the upper hand just fix the player movement (if it is not possible for both keep the strong zones) lots of us complained about not having defensive struggles they potentially give us that then months later complain about it.
# 74
turftickler @ 05/04/11 07:49 PM
#40 in the white uniform, not sure which team that is, back pedals as fast as the receiver he is covering. That is not good. Also, the defender (purple uniform) side stepping as fast as the receiver, then picking the ball off is all wrong as well.
Those things can be fixed, but how many more problems will we see that need to be addressed before the demo drops, then before the game drops also?
I will buy this game if it is playable without seeing to much nonsense, but at this point, it does not look playable to the point of even a moderate level of enjoyment.
To those of you who say this kind of stuff doesn't bother, that's your problem, but I want my $60 to go toward a game that I will play for at least 6 months out of the year instead of 6 weeks or even 6 days.
Those things can be fixed, but how many more problems will we see that need to be addressed before the demo drops, then before the game drops also?
I will buy this game if it is playable without seeing to much nonsense, but at this point, it does not look playable to the point of even a moderate level of enjoyment.
To those of you who say this kind of stuff doesn't bother, that's your problem, but I want my $60 to go toward a game that I will play for at least 6 months out of the year instead of 6 weeks or even 6 days.
# 75
BuffaloBull7 @ 05/07/11 08:09 AM
This make people have look and dissect zones more I like the improvement to Zone Coverage. Great Job EA
# 76
shttymcgee @ 05/07/11 04:54 PM
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I'm gonna give them a chance to fix the sluffle issue. They still have some time. If its not fixed I will be disappointed, but I can live with it as long as most other aspects of the game are good.
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The fact of the matter is, this will not be fixed this gen. The engine just won't allow it. Its the only explanation. Its been in every next gen EA football game since Madden 06. Its improved but if they could figure out a new way for the players to plant and move correctly I am sure they would have by now. I'm not defending them here, just saying what I believe to be true.
And just to be clear. Just because I can live with it doesn't mean I'm ok with it.
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