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Chris' Blog: Playing the blame game with NBA Elite 11

05:09 PM - September 22, 2010 by RaychelSnr

If you didn't read my thoughts on NBA Elite 11's demo, be sure to check those out now. No need to re-hash what I said there.

What I'd like to do instead is to play some blame game as to who is to blame for what might be one of the biggest disaster releases from a major gaming company in quite some time.

Because somehow, somewhere, someone is to blame for what accounts to the worst basketball title on the market in this generation of consoles. Sony's NBA game outclasses Elite 11, and I'm sure I can name several games over the past decade on far inferior hardware that outclass Elite's gameplay, some completely and laughably dominate Elite.

I wrote about Elite earlier this year, I thought the name change signaled that EA had hit the panic button. Now that we've played Elite and saw the entire Live series was blown up, I think it's safe to say EA definitely panicked.

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# 81 lwendt33 @ 09/23/10 06:38 PM

EA should have had two development teams. One that works on expanding on NBA Elite 10 for this year (NBA 11) and one that could work on the controls for next year(NBA 12).

# 82 JWiLL02 @ 09/23/10 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dwanestar


	Its funny when people keep talkin bout 2k. this is a forum for nba elite... 2k got nothing to do with ea failing. i thinks its true that they hit the panic button

Talk about a contradictory statement.

Who do you think was responsible for causing EA to hit that panic button? There would have been no reason to if it weren't for a certain other company...

I think you see where I'm going with this.

# 83 noshun @ 09/23/10 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KG


	Noshun, Wassup with that letter? I'm trying to read it.

As soon as a mod says its okay.. I'll post it.

# 84 magicman32 @ 09/23/10 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	The fact is EA is not the only one with a multiple year plan, to assume that the competition will sit idle by and allow them to catch up is ridiculous, after the release of this years games what exactly is their plan is it to add more controls graphic upgrade is an obvious, fact is they have to start from scratch with gameplay the game is not a representation of the complexities of NBA basketball.

I agree with this post. Let's go back in time and talk about both basketball series. Both companies has had 6 years. Now let's break down the so called "3 year plan".

NBA 2k6 was a good game for it's time. But 2k7 was better introducing sig styles, but it wasn't very sim. What did 2k do? They provided a better sim experience, sig styles, kept the shot stick and built on 2k7 with 2k8. That's 3 years of building (2006-2008) and 2k8 was the best out of the 3 year plan.

Now let's take the next 3 years. 2k9 had better movement and was more fluid that 2k8. The presentation was also better. The problem with 2k9 was the contact just wasn't there and the post game wasn't were it needed to be. So what did 2k do? The improved the the contact, the post game, the commentary, and overall physicality of the game with 2k10. Boxing out felt better, fronting the post felt better etc. They also added my player nba today, and improved the AI. But 2k10 fell short in overall movements and responsiveness in controls for the most part.

So what did 2k do? They have giving us better movement, kept the contact, improved the controls (both in responsiveness and making it user friendly), and they have continued to add realistic animations etc. They have addressed the community the last 6 years and in 2k11, we should have one of the greatest basketball games ever created. They continue to build and although 2k 11 isn't out yet, we can all tell that 2k11 should be the best in the last year of the "3 year plan. Just like 2k8 was.

This is the 2nd half of 2k's 3 year plan (2009-2011). Don't think the next 3 years 2k will be satisfied. History hasn't shown it regarding basketball.

Now let's compare that to EA's 6 years making next gen basketball games. Elite 11 has taken huge step backwards and this is nothing new. History has shown this. They continue to scrap what they have and start over. People should pay attention.

# 85 VDusen04 @ 09/24/10 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	The fact is EA is not the only one with a multiple year plan, to assume that the competition will sit idle by and allow them to catch up is ridiculous, after the release of this years games what exactly is their plan is it to add more controls graphic upgrade is an obvious, fact is they have to start from scratch with gameplay the game is not a representation of the complexities of NBA basketball.

Righto. I was not attempting to say anything within the realm of, "2K will be sitting idle for a while now." I was simply saying, things happen, things change, and I'm not certain I agree that it's a foregone conclusion that EA will never catch up to 2K in the sport of basketball. Problems arise, innovations are introduced, innovations sometimes fail, the direction of a given game may change, etc.

Again, I'm not saying it's bound to happen. 2K may just as well continue to dominate forever. But I've seen a ton of turn arounds and unforeseen series of events in other sports video game titles over the years. It's not out of the question to me for EA to reemerge and legitimately compete in this market. . .just not necessarily in the near future.

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