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NBA 2K11 Video: Phoenix Suns vs. Miami Heat (9 Minutes of Gameplay)

01:14 PM - August 29, 2010 by renewill27

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# 181 Rocboyz101 @ 08/31/10 04:53 PM

I think it has something to do with them adding soo many different jumpshot animations..not a big deal just a interesting topic..

# 182 youngfaze01 @ 08/31/10 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	One is an early version... nba 2k10.5 and one is a demo version 2k11 @ 60fps Thats what I got from 2kronnie since he's the one with the build and did the recording

Which videos are 2k10.5, the Magic/Nuggets and Suns/Heat??

# 183 Phreezy P @ 08/31/10 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by youngfaze01


	Which videos are 2k10.5, the Magic/Nuggets and Suns/Heat??

I think it was Magic VS Nuggets. There were a lot more poor animations and stuff than in the Heat VS Suns

# 184 XuanWu @ 08/31/10 07:43 PM

I love 2k and all...and I already pre-ordered it...but c'mon guys...

OVERHEAD PASSES >_< ENOUGH!! I don't even care if they release the same game next year as virtually a roster update with some presentation tweaks...

ENOUGH OVERHEAD PASSES. Nobody plays basketball like that. :/

# 185 blingballa333 @ 09/04/10 10:33 PM

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	ENOUGH OVERHEAD PASSES. Nobody plays basketball like that. :/

Overhead passes are a valuable tool that many NBA players use to their advantage.

Ask Kevin Love.

# 186 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ffaacc03


	Dont have to go into details but ... have you saw any playoffs/finals games ? and if so, is there any significant difference witht the "sound & visual crowd atmospheras" of those games in respect of normal games ? ... we have seen differences already within nomal games and compared to last year ... thus they seem not that significant, seem not close to the standards set by the competition last year ...

Unfortunately No I haven't seen a single one.

# 187 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	@Da Czar so the copy you got runs like the ones at games con? A smooth 60 fps? I kinda figured it was something in the recording process...

Yes the game runs at 60 fps but if you capture a 60 fps game at 30 or encode a 60 FPS game at 30 its just not going to be as smooth or look as good as the real thing.

Its impressive how much more responsive the controls are in 11 vs 10.

# 188 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jfsolo


	The way Wade was keeping Nash from getting by him was what was so great to see. He was in a stance, moving his feet, angling back, beating Nash to the spot where he want get to, but not by warping or applying some force field to Nash. There didn't seem to be any instances of 2-man canimations sucking the players into pre-determined sequences.

JF in some early feedback session we talked extensively about the necessity of the defense to retreat in the appropriate angles. To me it makes a world of difference when the cpu defense is not causing contact in unrealistic angles.

What is also opens up is if you can force the d to turn their shoulder to beat you to that spot... You can then pullup... If you really like basketball there are so many tiny improvements like that that just take the enjoyment of the title to another level. IMO of course.

# 189 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RAELpogi


	So can somebody please confirm that it is going to RUN 60fps on our consoles?? Like gamersydes vids. Thanks

Yes the game runs at 60 FPS.

# 190 blingballa333 @ 09/04/10 11:09 PM

@ Da_Czar

Did you in any instance feel any suction on the perimeter when you were the ballhandler? In 2k10, there were several instances where the CPU would be connected to you like glue making it impossible to get past them sometimes. This is was my biggest pet peeve with 2k10.

Thanks

# 191 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blingballa333


	@ Da_Czar Did you in any instance feel any suction on the perimeter when you were the ballhandler? In 2k10, there were several instances where the CPU would be connected to you like glue making it impossible to get past them sometimes. This is was my biggest pet peeve with 2k10. Thanks

Not a lot. Don't forget they have that fifa styled ability to break out of perimeter contact. I can see that getting overlooked and guys just watching it play out instead of being active.

there Are a couple of angles however that if you attack the defense you can be sucked in to initiate the fifa stuff. Immediately after you can break out or spin off of course.

That is an extreme nitpick however because it didn't happen with great regularity and if you compare it too all the sucktion that happens in 2k10 without the ability to break out of it then its not worth mentioning.

I am also very surprised no one has mentioned that the cpu doesn't face guard the offensive players anymore... They defend at a realistic distance which also helps to eliminate some of that unnecessary contact were so used to.

So you eliminate the unrealistic defensive speed and the unrealistic defensive pressure ( being too close to the offensive player) then you program the defense to retreat to the proper angles and beat the man to the spot and it really really opens up the halfcourt game. Especially if you force the defense to help even on All-star there is no magic recovery. You have to give up something to get something.

# 192 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 11:19 PM

Is this OS ? How in the world is no one talking about how the cpu controlled Heat had lebron dominating the basketball ?

Has another game ever done that ? He was actually running a big part of the offense as the SF.

Last year they would bring the ball up a few times then pass it to the pg to run the offense....

# 193 blingballa333 @ 09/04/10 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	Not a lot. Don't forget they have that fifa styled ability to break out of perimeter contact. I can see that getting overlooked and guys just watching it play out instead of being active. there Are a couple of angles however that if you attack the defense you can be sucked in to initiate the fifa stuff. Immediately after you can break out or spin off of course. That is an extreme nitpick however because it didn't happen with great regularity and if you compare it too all the sucktion that happens in 2k10 without the ability to break out of it then its not worth mentioning. I am also very surprised no one has mentioned that the cpu doesn't face guard the offensive players anymore... They defend at a realistic distance which also helps to eliminate some of that unnecessary contact were so used to. So you eliminate the unrealistic defensive speed and the unrealistic defensive pressure ( being too close to the offensive player) then you program the defense to retreat to the proper angles and beat the man to the spot and it really really opens up the halfcourt game. Especially if you force the defense to help even on All-star there is no magic recovery. You have to give up something to get something.

Sounds great Czar, thanks for the response!

# 194 Jano @ 09/04/10 11:24 PM

Hey Czar some of those long outlet passes are bugging me do you see that a lot against the CPU?

It was strange to see Lebron throw that pass to Miller. Not saying he couldn't do it but that seemed like a pass that should have been picked off. Saw another example of it with Drexler catching a rebound and throwing it full court in the other vid.

Reminded of last year how the CPU would abuse my AI controlled teammates cuz they knew none of them would pick it off lol!

# 195 Goffs @ 09/04/10 11:24 PM

Man the gameplay vids not showing it justice...it would be nice to see recent vids in glorious 60 fps...thanks Da_Czar now I can't wait to get it so I can witness it myself..

# 196 domidomdomz @ 09/04/10 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	Is this OS ? How in the world is no one talking about how the cpu controlled Heat had lebron dominating the basketball ? Has another game ever done that ? He was actually running a big part of the offense as the SF. Last year they would bring the ball up a few times then pass it to the pg to run the offense....

In a way, I mentioned it but didn't mention what was happening in 2K10. Hehe

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...91-post22.html

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	- Lebron is ball hogging and gets fouled everytime he decides to attack the rim and not settle for jumpshots. He does get awarded for foul calls and free throws in real life.

# 197 Da_Czar @ 09/04/10 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jano


	Hey Czar some of those long outlet passes are bugging me do you see that a lot against the CPU? It was strange to see Lebron throw that pass to Miller. Not saying he couldn't do it but that seemed like a pass that should have been picked off. Saw another example of it with Drexler catching a rebound and throwing it full court in the other vid. Reminded of last year how the CPU would abuse my AI controlled teammates cuz they knew none of them would pick it off lol!

Yes you do see that from the cpu AI. At least I did from the build I played. I'm not sure how to qualify how often it happens but some of them do get picked off especially if the passer has low pass ratings ( my observation from a limited play time.. however that is how is was designed)

So they do try it. In the build I played it wasn't an every possession thing but they will test you. Like I depending ( I think) on the passer and his pass ratings and how open the offensive player is some get through and some get picked. I haven't seen a play where i was like NO FN WAY...LOL but again once we get the game and just sit down to play that may give us more of an indication of wether it a real problem.

# 198 ifriedrice @ 09/04/10 11:40 PM

Hey Czar, I don't see anyone else mentioning this and it's really not a big deal, but are the dancing girls going to sit courtside during gameplay like the past 2Ks and like real life? The demo vids are showing them running to and from the tunnel when there are timeouts. I want to know if the final retail will be like that.

# 199 23 @ 09/04/10 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bornindamecca


	Only thing that consistently bugs me the big man dribbling animations in the full court. Too smooth, too fast. A guy like Joelle Anthony(sp) is going to have to adjust to maintain control of the ball if he tries to run with it right away. Right now they are slipping into their sprinting animation with too much dexterity. I'd also like to see that dribble be higher on lesser skilled big men. Bosh is above average in agility and skill for a big man, but you can still see him looking at the ball a bit if he has to start a break after a rebound. Fixing this will balance out the factors of bringing a guard to help, trapping when a big man puts the ball on the floor far away from the basket and trying to sneak in a break when a big rebounds with no pressure around him. This will also separate highly skilled tall ball handlers like Odom, Durant or Anthony Randolph who can take the ball off the glass and initiate the break with reliable consistency. Small thing--pump fake animations seem a bit behind compared to the updates of the last few years. That lackadaisical raising of the ball over the head isn't fooling anyone Looks great otherwise though. Saw some wonderful things. Really like the new substitution graphic. Hope to hear more new commentary, but that's often not something we get until the release version, so grain of salt.

I'd like to piggyback off of this with a question

Does the CPU ever slow down the game to control the pace?

If they're up do they always rush it up the court like what we see here?

Thats one thing I think this game is missing that might even help it feel even better if not.

If it doesnt, this should be considered in a patch from the beginning

# 200 Da_Czar @ 09/05/10 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ifriedrice


	Hey Czar, I don't see anyone else mentioning this and it's really not a big deal, but are the dancing girls going to sit courtside during gameplay like the past 2Ks and like real life? The demo vids are showing them running to and from the tunnel when there are timeouts. I want to know if the final retail will be like that.

Rice apologies I wasn't watching the cheer squad much when i had the game. Slipped right past me. I will try to keep an eye out when watching some of the vids I have.

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