03:29 PM - May 12, 2010 by Cvhsalumni
EA Sports has just posted another Madden NFL 11 blog. This one was written by Mike Scantlebury and features run blocking improvements, with a few video examples included.
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Madden NFL 11 News Post
03:29 PM - May 12, 2010 by CvhsalumniEA Sports has just posted another Madden NFL 11 blog. This one was written by Mike Scantlebury and features run blocking improvements, with a few video examples included.
Madden NFL 11 Videos
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# 101
SouthernBrick @ 05/13/10 12:24 AM
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EA is sooo goin' down!
# 102
seriousluboy83 @ 05/13/10 01:21 AM
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Damn don't crucify me fellas...so what you guys are saying is that you can't tell if run blocking has improved w/o seeing those types of runs???
Looks better. Like the double team blocking, and them tearing off to make another block. The 1st block should break down after that though, but it doesn't seem to. The linebackers seem to be reacting a little slowly.
In the first video, with the block to the left, looks like there's suction, that the defender is going for the blocker instead of the running back.
In the second video, you can see a defender running into the back of another, with no animation being triggered. So the one running into the other is just running in place. Still no animations for incidental contact. I was hoping the new locomotion system would fix that problem. Anyone else notice the frame shift when the HB received the handoff?
Slider Requests
In the first video, with the block to the left, looks like there's suction, that the defender is going for the blocker instead of the running back.
In the second video, you can see a defender running into the back of another, with no animation being triggered. So the one running into the other is just running in place. Still no animations for incidental contact. I was hoping the new locomotion system would fix that problem. Anyone else notice the frame shift when the HB received the handoff?
Slider Requests
- Slider for the run reaction needs to work better than in M10.
- Slider for double team block shedding.
- Slider for double team blocking propensity.
# 105
SouthernBrick @ 05/13/10 02:16 AM
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Well I know Sproles was the ball carrier on the second run on the counter. Not sure who that was on the 1st (Ryan Mathews but, I'm thinking no because, his number is 24). I'm thinking It'll probably be ok once I get the game and actually feel the weight of the players. These videos worry me though and I'm assuming they're probably using the analog instead of the sprint button(RT) so I might be sticking with the sprint button If that is the case.
I questioned this in another video showing CJ running. I think he broke out into the open field and he didn't look all that fast. Neither did Sproles but, we'll see.
# 106
kjcheezhead @ 05/13/10 02:29 AM
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# 107
PantherBeast_OS @ 05/13/10 02:40 AM
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You better start convincing 6 million+ people who don't read forums are anything. Those are the people you must get to stop buying it before EA will go down. Good luck.
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That said. The run blocking does look better, but you do make a good point. We need to see it in action against different looks. Is dime 3-3 still blowing up goal line formations ?
However, they may just be really trying to show how the blocking works in a way thats obvious and clean for everyone to see. Which is why we have not seen it with defense doing exotic things.
# 109
SouthernBrick @ 05/13/10 03:23 AM
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A LOT lol.
Loved the video!!! Blocking looks like it got a really nice upgrade.
However along with a bunch of posters who have said before me, Defense needs an upgrade to counter this now. Lb's Like P-Willis should not be standing there waiting to get blocked. They should be reacting quickly and trying to blow up the play the best way possible. Teams that bring 8 to the box should force u to throw more times than not.
Ahhhhhh that brings me to the 3-4 defense. I love that the NT's will get doubled teamed (like they should) But I do not want to see them getting pushed around and manhandled. The good ones better get some good pressure up field.........(THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE TO BREAK FREE FROM THERE BLOCKS aka MADDEN 10) They should remain being doubled teamed but WIN by pushing the blockers back into the qb and controlling the A gaps. Also by them holding the double teams longer this creates less blockers to attack the Lb's.
In Madden 10 NT's are usually single blocked or when they are doubled the block breaks off to quickly to get a LB......This is incorrect! They should constantly be double teamed. A NT would destroy a single block in the NFL. Also the DE's in a 3-4 should not be rushing the passer just like a DE from a 4-3 does. They need to be more focused on stopping the run and taking up blocks to keep the Lb's free. A pass rush from a 3-4 DE is a extra bonus but is not commen to have big numbers.
My last gripe is that Safety's dont come up to help in the run game enough/or at all. Especially the great ones like Troy P. He needs to have more of a presence in stopping the run game department. I hate it that they just sort of float back there. This would also help out the Playaction calls on offense cause run stopping safety's would bite a bit more on them.
All in all if this is there "madden 04" version on xbox 360, I cannot wait for the "madden 05" version in Madden 12. How bout instead of "Hitstick 3.0" we get a "Wrap Stick 1.0"
Although I loved Madden 04!!!
However along with a bunch of posters who have said before me, Defense needs an upgrade to counter this now. Lb's Like P-Willis should not be standing there waiting to get blocked. They should be reacting quickly and trying to blow up the play the best way possible. Teams that bring 8 to the box should force u to throw more times than not.
Ahhhhhh that brings me to the 3-4 defense. I love that the NT's will get doubled teamed (like they should) But I do not want to see them getting pushed around and manhandled. The good ones better get some good pressure up field.........(THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE TO BREAK FREE FROM THERE BLOCKS aka MADDEN 10) They should remain being doubled teamed but WIN by pushing the blockers back into the qb and controlling the A gaps. Also by them holding the double teams longer this creates less blockers to attack the Lb's.
In Madden 10 NT's are usually single blocked or when they are doubled the block breaks off to quickly to get a LB......This is incorrect! They should constantly be double teamed. A NT would destroy a single block in the NFL. Also the DE's in a 3-4 should not be rushing the passer just like a DE from a 4-3 does. They need to be more focused on stopping the run and taking up blocks to keep the Lb's free. A pass rush from a 3-4 DE is a extra bonus but is not commen to have big numbers.
My last gripe is that Safety's dont come up to help in the run game enough/or at all. Especially the great ones like Troy P. He needs to have more of a presence in stopping the run game department. I hate it that they just sort of float back there. This would also help out the Playaction calls on offense cause run stopping safety's would bite a bit more on them.
All in all if this is there "madden 04" version on xbox 360, I cannot wait for the "madden 05" version in Madden 12. How bout instead of "Hitstick 3.0" we get a "Wrap Stick 1.0"
Although I loved Madden 04!!!
# 111
adembroski @ 05/13/10 05:47 AM
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Think I noticed what bugged me about the videos. Before the snap, the HB actually takes a step backwards, instead of moving forward. Looks weird.
Also, in the 3rd video, at about 15 to 17 seconds, it looks like the HB swats his left hand at something. Perhaps a bad/delayed timing HB/defender contact animation? Looks like you can see it in the 4th one as well, again not timed properly. Thoughts on it?
Also, in the 3rd video, at about 15 to 17 seconds, it looks like the HB swats his left hand at something. Perhaps a bad/delayed timing HB/defender contact animation? Looks like you can see it in the 4th one as well, again not timed properly. Thoughts on it?
# 113
blitzkrieger @ 05/13/10 08:40 AM
It does appear that the D is reacting a split second too slow.. But I assume this is on PRO. If the reaction time improves on ALL PRO that would be sweet.
I dont expect much from AM level, that seems to beyond hope at this point.. Amping up the CPU is fine but dumbing down your team to the point where they react like, well they dont react !
I dont expect much from AM level, that seems to beyond hope at this point.. Amping up the CPU is fine but dumbing down your team to the point where they react like, well they dont react !
# 114
Exonerated @ 05/13/10 08:46 AM
In past games, the defenders reacted WAY toooo fast.
Like they'd be fooled by a misdirection but recover so fast that they tackle you for a lost.
Like they'd be fooled by a misdirection but recover so fast that they tackle you for a lost.
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Oh wait,........
# 116
sportyguyfl31 @ 05/13/10 09:49 AM
Looks good, but the concern I have, maybe this has been brought up by other users already, is that we are seeing a lot of offensive eye candy. Actually, everything we have seen has been offense from both football games.
Im seeing LBs just sit there, letting the blockers fire out, and engage them, instead of reading, playing the gaps and scraping.
I dont want fast break football, like in Madden 04.
Im seeing LBs just sit there, letting the blockers fire out, and engage them, instead of reading, playing the gaps and scraping.
I dont want fast break football, like in Madden 04.
This is why we need some type of community interaction here. I don't want them doing special blogs or anything for us, but someone should answer some questions. Now, they're probably going to have a Live Chat session on this, even though, this was already talked about in the NCAA forum and in a NCAA Live Chat session. I'm willing to bet the same questions will be asked as well. We need questions answered.
Right about this time, Ian or whoever should be here saying, "Calm down guys. This was played on rookie for an added effect. Here's some footage of it played on All Pro and All Madden and against multiple defensive fronts." That would put a lot of people at ease. I understand that some people were more than rude at times last year, but a few questions in a thread shouldn't hurt anyone.
I have had questions about every "feature" that has been blogged about this year and for each and every one of them, I have numerous unanswered questions. Those little live chat sessions just ain't getting it done. What happens when you got a lot of unanswered questions about something? You become more hesitant to purchase it. Now, I'm most likely gonna get it( after you guys get it and I find out all of the answers that I need), but I'm sure there are some that want answers, but won't be able to find them.
Also, this:
is too funny.
Right about this time, Ian or whoever should be here saying, "Calm down guys. This was played on rookie for an added effect. Here's some footage of it played on All Pro and All Madden and against multiple defensive fronts." That would put a lot of people at ease. I understand that some people were more than rude at times last year, but a few questions in a thread shouldn't hurt anyone.
I have had questions about every "feature" that has been blogged about this year and for each and every one of them, I have numerous unanswered questions. Those little live chat sessions just ain't getting it done. What happens when you got a lot of unanswered questions about something? You become more hesitant to purchase it. Now, I'm most likely gonna get it( after you guys get it and I find out all of the answers that I need), but I'm sure there are some that want answers, but won't be able to find them.
Also, this:
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