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Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

06:51 PM - May 7, 2010 by thedude213

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# 101 thedude213 @ 05/10/10 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blzer


	I noticed that the A button can be used for action as well. Do you think that if you don't use the right stick (at least on defense), you can press the A button to initiate an automated tackle type? Or is that to switch players?

as a ball carrier, A button is to switch the ball between your right and left hand.

# 102 mestevo @ 05/10/10 02:34 AM

So aggressive mode on defense while attempting to make a tackle is just a better hit stick it sounds like?

# 103 kjcheezhead @ 05/10/10 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	So aggressive mode on defense while attempting to make a tackle is just a better hit stick it sounds like?

That's basically the idea I think. They weren't specific on how many right stick moves there were, but I expect aggessive mode would be more for going for the big hit with the stick allowing you to choose what level to aim for while agile mode will probably be where you would find the more solid wrap tackles and the strip ball controls.

# 104 Valdarez @ 05/10/10 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bjones16


	People please stop complaining about the warping!! Does it effect gameplay...NO! Praise these good azz animations and how fluid and fun the game looks!

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Originally Posted by QJBeat


	LOL WOW...IT FIGURES THAT THE HATERS WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT A LITTLE WARPING IN THE GAME ...COMON MAN YOU KNOW THE GAME LOOKS GREAT...JUST ONE TACKLE PUTS MADDEN TO SHAME WITH ITS LITTLE PUNK *** ANIMATIONS LOL GIMME A BREAK

Sure it has great animations, but there's no reason for players feet to be going through the field. It's the same thing that happens in Madden. It's something that doesn't happen in 2K's games. I don't understand how they could build a new game from scratch and not have the feet planting properly on the field. I noticed the feet warping at normal speed, which means it's visible enough to be noticeable and affect the immersion and overall animation quality.

# 105 Dudd @ 05/10/10 12:07 PM

The only I don't like is the juking. It's jaring compared to the other moves, the rb just kind of stops on a dime and jumps completely perpendicular to his previous direction. Not even Barry Sanders in his prime could do it like that, even he had to slow down a bit before making a jump cut.

# 106 Tyrant8RDFL @ 05/10/10 02:35 PM

I really liked what I saw in the video.

I feel like they are putting the controls of the runner into our hands, and we truly decide what we want to execute.

I also like the way they mapped it out. I will for sure give this game a chance.

# 107 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 09:58 PM

Good stuff! I Really like the blocking , as the release gets closer , they're doing a better job of showing us what this game is capable of. Impressive.

# 108 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	What's with number 74 in the slow mo sequence towards the beginning? He makes a block and then he seems to lose consciousness and just falls down with his guy. The rest of that sequence is really poor too actually the way all the guys we can see just pivot to the nearest defender (even if they're behind them) to start blocking them. Looks pretty cool overall, just over 3 weeks until release, demo can't get here quick enough.

Youre kidding right?

# 109 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	What's with number 74 in the slow mo sequence towards the beginning? He makes a block and then he seems to lose consciousness and just falls down with his guy. The rest of that sequence is really poor too actually the way all the guys we can see just pivot to the nearest defender (even if they're behind them) to start blocking them. Looks pretty cool overall, just over 3 weeks until release, demo can't get here quick enough.

No disrespect but their feet got tangled during the block..watch it again.. Thats how detailed and physics based this really is!!

Its impressive, no doubt.. These brits have hit on something.. taking a scientific program for testing physical movements of animals and applying it to a football game??? BRILLIANT!!

If that same play happens in ncaa 10 or Madden 10, their legs would pass right thru each other with no effect..( we ALL know this)

# 110 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 10:19 PM

I watch this video looking for non-reactions and i can't find one.. I can't see a spot when two players collide big or small with no physical reaction..pretty realistic ..

One knock is that i don't like the running animations, they don't take full strides, they take small choppy steps, looks wrong..either that or their legs are moving too fast?

# 111 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 10:25 PM

Ball carriers look as big as the defenders??

# 112 blackscorpion11 @ 05/10/10 10:31 PM

Notice they got a commentator with no british accent to explain the video,

hmmm

# 113 mestevo @ 05/10/10 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackscorpion11


	No disrespect but their feet got tangled during the block..watch it again.. Thats how detailed and physics based this really is!! Its impressive, no doubt.. These brits have hit on something.. taking a scientific program for testing physical movements of animals and applying it to a football game??? BRILLIANT!! If that same play happens in ncaa 10 or Madden 10, their legs would pass right thru each other with no effect..( we ALL know this)

Yes, this has been gone over in the thread, as you surely got to sometime during your 5 straight replies (there's a multiquote btw). The amazing physics appear to allow him to get his foot stepped on, as the runner then clips through his leg from the bottom of his foot to almost his knee with the center of his foot.

# 114 kjcheezhead @ 05/10/10 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	Yes, this has been gone over in the thread, as you surely got to sometime during your 5 straight replies (there's a multiquote btw). The amazing physics appear to allow him to get his foot stepped on, as the runner then clips through his leg from the bottom of his foot to almost his knee with the center of his foot.

It's very debatable whether any clipping actually occurs or if it's just from the angle of the play. I'll just say I disagree with your assessment and several others have as well.

That said, I still don't get how you simply shrug off a dude getting his foot stepped on and getting tripped! No one can deny that happened and no canned animation game has ever had anything but clipping occur in that situation before.

# 115 mestevo @ 05/10/10 11:20 PM

Actually I'm the first person in the thread that suggested that as the reason for why he fell down, and added (which is awesome) after it.

I also posted this picture... which people apparently still don't see clipping in (runner's left foot), or blame the camera view.

# 116 Blzer @ 05/10/10 11:26 PM

There have been plenty of videos to show clipping, this isn't the first. At least it shall be minimal.

# 117 Valdarez @ 05/10/10 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	Actually I'm the first person in the thread that suggested that as the reason for why he fell down, and added (which is awesome) after it. I also posted this picture... which people apparently still don't see clipping in (runner's left foot), or blame the camera view.

I'll have to go back and look for the feet interaction. Clipping with players, that's expected. Clipping with the field. Um, no. There's absolutely no excuse for it. That needs to be fixed.

# 118 SemperVictoria @ 05/11/10 12:29 AM

This game may very well suck. But from what I've seen thus far, it looks much better than anything I've seen from EA in the last few years.

So color me excited for BB--flaws and all, becasue it's the only football game I'm getting this year.

# 119 turftickler @ 05/11/10 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jmood88


	The running animations don't look right.

As opposed to Madden NFL 11's and NCAA 11's or are you basing that off of real life people running down field? The running looks a little stiff, but they players move realistically.

# 120 noplace @ 05/11/10 01:26 AM

Man they could do soooo much with this engine. I cant stand the player models but thats about it.

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