Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Actually I'm the first person in the thread that suggested that as the reason for why he fell down, and added (which is awesome) after it. I also posted this picture... which people apparently still don't see clipping in (runner's left foot), or blame the camera view.

I'll have to go back and look for the feet interaction. Clipping with players, that's expected. Clipping with the field. Um, no. There's absolutely no excuse for it. That needs to be fixed.

[SemperVictoria]

This game may very well suck. But from what I've seen thus far, it looks much better than anything I've seen from EA in the last few years.

So color me excited for BB--flaws and all, becasue it's the only football game I'm getting this year.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmood88

The running animations don't look right.

As opposed to Madden NFL 11's and NCAA 11's or are you basing that off of real life people running down field? The running looks a little stiff, but they players move realistically.

[noplace]

Man they could do soooo much with this engine. I cant stand the player models but thats about it.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

You guys are awesome, it's amazing when a lineman can have his foot stepped on by what looks like a 250lb safety and fall down, but then it's suddenly 'nothing to see here, making a big deal of nothing' when the running back's foot clips through almost his entire lower leg, from foot to knee. I guess it's not quite all 'physics based action' and if it is, then there are some collision problems.

Good points, but who says that BB will be perfect. Of course it will have some hiccups. Do you play Madden NFL games? If so, how many times have you wanted to quit your game and start over or complete turn off your console, take the game out and play something different?

I'm not here to bash EA Sports or even the Madden NFL series. I would just like you and everyone else to realize that Backbreaker is not going to be a game of perfection. No game is or will be, although some may get close.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmood88

Basically, it's cool to go through the video looking for anything that proves that the Physics Based Action!! makes this the greatest football game ever but calling attention to something that the engine was supposed to fix(clipping and player movement) is unacceptable.

Who said that physics is supposed to fix those things? There will still be clipping, but you will not see a WR run straight through another player to score a TD that should have been a tackle. That happened to me multiple times online in Madden 10.

Clipping will exist in every game.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

It does too effect gameplay. We saw the lineman fall when his foot was stepped on, so the RB should have at least stumbled when his foot would have hit the lineman's leg. Is it a big time bug? Not really, I'll still be at Gamestop day one to pick this up, but I definitely would like it to be fixed by release somehow.

Warping and Clipping are 2 entirely different issues. Warping is when you see a player move from point A to point B in such a way that is physically impossible. Clipping is when you see minor things, such as players hands, feet, legs, or an any object going through part of another object.

Ghosting, well that's self-explanatory.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

Sure it has great animations, but there's no reason for players feet to be going through the field. It's the same thing that happens in Madden. It's something that doesn't happen in 2K's games. I don't understand how they could build a new game from scratch and not have the feet planting properly on the field. I noticed the feet warping at normal speed, which means it's visible enough to be noticeable and affect the immersion and overall animation quality.

Yes, players feet do go through the ground in APF 2k8. It just doesn't happen as much.