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MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

09:24 PM - April 6, 2010 by RidinDwnKingsley

OK guys, here it is.

Any suggestions, fixes or edits should be posted here. If you have any questions on how to get the rosters working, make sure you check this thread first.

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Title: OSFullMinors2010V.1

Manual Download Here

All real players
Faces for the entire NL East and top 5-10 prospects for each team
Opening day lineups/rotations
Every player on a MLB roster is included
AAA lineups/rotations best as possible
Great for franchise play

Thanks to Knight for letting me join the cause and to Ksig for his excellent scouting and potential matches. I'm sure Knight will be around to provide input on V.2.

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# 701 CWood2 @ 04/17/10 07:51 AM

That's a really good list dkrause, I agree ... not a lot of prospects on that list. More swing and miss hitters that maybe don't have great contact or plate discipline ratings, but they can hit it a long way when they get a hold of one.

# 702 ltw0303cavs @ 04/17/10 08:14 AM

Yeah the problem is, the Pacific Coast League numbers are always bloated, its always been that way, im sure Ksig will tell you that. If you bring up the power numbers up then you make them higher rated and more likely to be called up. Brade Eldred in 2004 in the Pirates system .301 with 38 home runs and 137 RBI, when he played with the Pirates major league team >221 with 12hr's and 77k's. Shelly Duncan is a fringe Major League player.I have yet to see any stats over the whole season that shows in minor league games there is no power. 1 game here and there is not enough of a sample size.

# 703 dkrause1971 @ 04/17/10 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ltw0303cavs


	Yeah the problem is, the Pacific Coast League numbers are always bloated, its always been that way, im sure Ksig will tell you that. If you bring up the power numbers up then you make them higher rated and more likely to be called up. Brade Eldred in 2004 in the Pirates system .301 with 38 home runs and 137 RBI, when he played with the Pirates major league team >221 with 12hr's and 77k's. Shelly Duncan is a fringe Major League player.I have yet to see any stats over the whole season that shows in minor league games there is no power. 1 game here and there is not enough of a sample size.

There is a difference between bloated totals due to league and having the power rating of Cesar Izturis. I am not asking to make Eldred or Duncan 85 power but i don't see how rating these guys lower 30s is right either. They are not major league quality hitters but that doesn't mean they don't have major league power.

As for you not seeing stats- tons of people posted not seeing power. As for quoting Ksig- he is the guy who was the most vocal on the farm power outage and i sure he'll be the first one to mention that you can have MLB power and not be a MLB player.

BTW- Eldred and Duncan were international league last year- ie the non bloated league

# 704 ltw0303cavs @ 04/17/10 10:00 AM

Yeah i see what you are saying but every one of the players you mentioned are fringe Major league players at best I am not quoting anybody, im just telling you, you cannot go by HR numbers in the Pacific Coast League where every ballpark in the league is like Coors Field. I have seen every post and nobody has played a whole season or even half a season of minor league games and given stats. I agree Brad Eldred has immense power, i have seen it up close, but if you bring up the power numbers they are more likely to get called up and there is no way to offset that except to lower their ratings. Brad Eldred is not a major league player, I mean if the Pirates let you go, that says something. All im saying is with minor league players, if you or Ksig want to boost them go ahead, but i dont want it on the stock rosters where it effects franchises because people want guys that will never see the majors have higher power ratings so that they can hit 30 hr in the minors. Easy on Cesar Izturis he almost hit 5 hr's one year lol. You make good points D but im just saying it would mess up franchises if the ratings were brought up for the Mitch Jones's of the world.

# 705 Yablonski1 @ 04/17/10 11:57 AM

I really hate to ask this since its usually posted somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. I am new to this game franchise and can't figure out how to load the roster. I currently have it loaded on a USB stick. Is there another way I should be doing this?

# 706 Speedy @ 04/17/10 02:21 PM

If this shouldn't be posted, I'll delete it:

Knight's rosters are always amazing and there is rarely any negative feedback from the years he's been making them...it's what brought me to OS in the first place; having said that, given the amount time Knight has been devouting to his family (and rightfully so...see my Avi

) I don't believe a lot of this is his work.

Ksig has made vocal pleas for more power and he's asked the community for help in determining what ratings affect performance (i.e. higher batting average, more HRs, etc.) which I respect given he wants to make improvements on both his skills and the roster. So...

Spoiler

# 707 ksig24 @ 04/17/10 02:44 PM

Honestly fellas I can rake in this game. I got a meatball or three yesterday and timed them superbly and only managed to hit the wall. Two double with Michael Taylor, a triple off the wall with Chris Carter and a mashed double off the base of the wall with Yonder. Still no jacks...I am not crazy, but I would like to see some power.

On another note, the Futures game is all jacked up. There was a Thomas Neal on team USA and a Thomas Neal on World, but there is only one Thomas Neal in the game, no duplicate. Furthermore, Nick Noonan as well as several other USA born players were on the World team. Just a side note.

# 708 ltw0303cavs @ 04/17/10 02:46 PM

I can respect that view but my point is this is MLB the Show..not MILB the SHOW. I mean are we playing Major league baseball franchises or are you playing Trenton Thunder franchises ? I mean all i look from my minor leaguers are they making progress and are they ready to be brought up. Im not trying to win the minor league HR championship. See once again you can pump up (example Brad Eldred's power to 60 or higher) but then you change his overall rating and you change his progresion curve. So he is more likely to get called up. I mean he hit 35 homers and 100 RBIS in the white sox AAA and the sox let him go ? He has hit 160 minor league home runs and he cant make it to the majors. What im saying is there is no conversion factor from minors to majors, so the only way to keep guys like Eldred down in the minors where they belong is to lower their ratings. I agree with you guys, i wish there was a way to do both, but right now there isnt.

# 709 ksig24 @ 04/17/10 02:46 PM

Mike Leake: was going to be drafted as a SS and can hit yet his attributes are 1 for all hitting. His fastball tops out at about 90 but he has an idea of where to place it. His FB hits 96 in the game.

# 710 Mr. Franchise @ 04/17/10 03:40 PM

I noticed something about minor league power hitters. I had Shelley Duncan in my Giants franchise, and even though he had power in the 30's, he hit 17 bombs for me in half a year. So I'm not sure exactly how it works.

# 711 ltw0303cavs @ 04/17/10 04:12 PM

Good call Franchise, I really believe the simulation model in the Minors is different than the Major league simulation model

# 712 Mr. Franchise @ 04/17/10 04:35 PM

I simmed a franchise to test out the futures game. For some reason the WORLD team had Dwayne Wise, Dustin Mosley, and Jamie Hoffman on it. Is there not enough WORLD players?

# 713 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/17/10 04:40 PM

I'd also like to add that many of the people complaining about minor league power always want to see a youth movement way to fast (calling up someone in year 1 or 2) then get frustrated when they hit 12 HR in 500 AB's.

Many 1st round draft picks are in the minor leagues for 3,4,5 years before they see a full season of plate appearances. (always exceptions of course).

I too can absolutely rake, (with contact at 1, timing 4, solid hits 2, power 6), and think manipulating power ratings is absurd. In my opinion, that is what sliders are for. There is a certain balance to the game with the ratings out of the box, of course individual fans (homers) don't agree with many ratings for players on their favorite team (more so if they suck at the game and end a season with 10 Kyle Blanks HR's)

Also, what happens to the draft picks generated by the game? Now they'll pale in comparison to the steroid induced monsters created by some of the rating manipulators.

Come on, this was Knight's project. It wouldn't exist without him. If some feel so strongly about lack of power, then edit yourself AFTER a version is distributed amongst the masses. We shouldn't be handicapped by a few (power hungry?!) people who feel their minor leaguers should be hitting more home runs.

# 714 Cozar @ 04/17/10 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ltw0303cavs


	Good call Franchise, I really believe the simulation model in the Minors is different than the Major league simulation model

I think people are forgetting about the effect of pitching. Pitchers have a HR/9 stat, which is almost certainly considered in calculating whether a hit is a HR. Thus, while you might need 60 power to hit a lot of HRs in the majors, maybe 30 power is sufficient in the minors because the pitchers are worse.

This is what lets you balance between the minors and the majors given that all stats progress. Keep batters and pitchers in the minors rated lower than their major league colleagues, and you should be able to get realistic numbers in both leagues without MiLB players being called up to replace MLB players too soon.

# 715 JaSnake16 @ 04/17/10 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cozar


	I think people are forgetting about the effect of pitching. Pitchers have a HR/9 stat, which is almost certainly considered in calculating whether a hit is a HR. Thus, while you might need 60 power to hit a lot of HRs in the majors, maybe 30 power is sufficient in the minors because the pitchers are worse. This is what lets you balance between the minors and the majors given that all stats progress. Keep batters and pitchers in the minors rated lower than their major league colleagues, and you should be able to get realistic numbers in both leagues without MiLB players being called up to replace MLB players too soon.

I also think what's being misunderstood as well is the numbers will SIM correctly. Someone posted before that the game is meant to be played with major league franchises first and foremost. If you play an entire franchise as a minor league team, even with fake players and ratings, your bound to have the same gripes. However the weaker pitch ratings like hr/9 and clutch really lead to the accurate sim numbers with the low power numbers in the minors.

# 716 Mr. Franchise @ 04/17/10 05:59 PM

But I hit 17 with Duncan in the MAJORS on legend hitting. And it was only half a year. What I'm trying to say is, test the players out in game before you say they need a power boost. Also, look at slugging PCT. instead of just HR's.

# 717 Jason_19 @ 04/17/10 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Franchise


	But I hit 17 with Duncan in the MAJORS on legend hitting. And it was only half a year. What I'm trying to say is, test the players out in game before you say they need a power boost. Also, look at slugging PCT. instead of just HR's.

Was he an every day player when you hit those HRs? If so, that's not unrealistic at all. Duncan has a lot of power. He's more than likely not going to hit above .215-.225, but he could easily hit 32-38 HRs in 500 ABs.

# 718 jluva42 @ 04/17/10 06:16 PM

guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

# 719 HealyMonster @ 04/17/10 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jluva42


	guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

download the file to your computer, then transfer it to a memory stick or portable hard drive or something to that effect and then connect that to your ps3.

once on the ps3 find the file and transfer it to your ps3 and boot up the game.

you could also go online in the game to the roster vault and fin the file and download it just like that.

# 720 Jason_19 @ 04/17/10 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jluva42


	guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

Use WinRAR to unpack the file. You will get a folder that is titled "PS3". All you have to do is copy or move that "PS3" folder to your USB drive. After that, go to the "saved data utility" section on the main PS3 screen and make sure that you hit the triangle button to display the roster file and then copy it to your PS3.

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