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MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

03:04 PM - March 2, 2010 by Russell_SCEA

If you think someone in the game has a less than desirable player potential post their name and current potential in the game here, thanks.

P.S. Just post their name, potential, and what you think it should be. That is all, please don't clutter the thread.

*Update: It's a bug and it will be fixed in the next roster update.

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# 101 mhagf4 @ 03/03/10 11:10 AM

As I understand it, potential is not just an A, B, C, etc. but is actually a sliding scale. So, I will list the Royals who are actually on the game, what their "letter grade" should be, and rank them in order. (I may miss a guy, but I think this covers most of them)

Grienke-A
Soria-A
Butler-A
Meche-B
Gordon-B
DeJesus-B
Cruz-B
Hochevar-B
Bannister-B
Callaspo-B
Getz-B
Ankeil-B
Farnsworth-B
Aviles-B
Tejeda-B (as a RP, I think he shows good promise)
Podsednik-B
Davies-C
Guillen-C
Fields-C
Kendall-C
BPena-C
Anderson-C
Rosa-C
Lerew-C
Maier-C
Betancourt-D
Bloomquist-D
Thompson-D
Betemit-D
Hughes-D
Herges-D
Humber-D

Frankly, I don't think that very many who have actually made the big leagues (which are the only guys actually on the game) should be an F. If you have to adjust to make the numbers right, this should still guide you.

# 102 Abnormal101 @ 03/03/10 11:36 AM

Is there an official day the roster update will be released? I know people keep throwing out Monday but there hasn't been a developer on here confirming it which kind of worries me that it will drag on past Monday.

# 103 nuckles2k2 @ 03/03/10 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Abnormal101


	Is there an official day the roster update will be released? I know people keep throwing out Monday but there hasn't been a developer on here confirming it which kind of worries me that it will drag on past Monday.

To answer your question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KolbeSCEA


	Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention: Player Potential: Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday) * UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update. -K

# 104 theotherguy619 @ 03/03/10 12:05 PM

Why are people still posting potential ratings? I thought it was a real issue, and not SCEA just misrating everybody?

Are they going to take our opinions into consideration even though they know what the problem is?

# 105 Abnormal101 @ 03/03/10 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nuckles2k2


	To answer your question.

Thanks

I guess Quick games and exhibitions until then, no franchise for me.

# 106 sectiona21 @ 03/03/10 01:08 PM

I'm not a huge ratings guy, especially with the potential rating mainly because I'm still a little cloudy on the exact definition of the potential rating. But I think there's a few things we need to keep in consideration here.

Should a player that's in his mid 20's that maybe once was a top prospect but has strung together a few subpar seasons be still considered for a rating such as a B? I've seen many of those be proposed in the previous pages.

Also, what about a player that still may have time to improve..say 26 or 27, but has given us enough of a stat sample size to imply that possibly that player has hit a plateau in his career and while he may of hit 30-35 HRs 2 or 3 years ago, there's more of a chance that player's numbers will regress in the near future.

My point is I think we should just really look at the numbers and not the names of these players when trying to adjust their potential rating, especially before we just handing out B's even A's like crazy. Also remember when this is all said and done and the update is released, in the end, the potential rating is just an opinion. And that means you will not have everyone in agreement with each and every rating. Does that mean the rating is wrong? No, because it is an opinion...plain and simple. This is just another baseball arguement, just like the millions of other baseball arguements that have taken place over the last 100+ years. This is what makes baseball so great.

The one thing we should remember in this whole thing that less than 24 hours after this game was released, the people of SCEA were on here working on solutions to fix some of the bugs and problems with their product. The game is already one of the best sports titles every to be released, the early reviews of the game have been nearly perfect...9-9.5 I've read so far. It's obviously going to turn some big revenue for Sony and be a huge seller. Really, SCEA could've released this title yesterday and that could've been the last we heard of them till Dec or Jan when the talk of MLB 11 starts stirring. And we are a small community of Show players, and sick baseball fans that notice things like potential ratings. The average fan will pop in the Show and fall in love with the game and not even notice or care about things like potential ratings or some of the silly other comments I read on here that people complain about. Yet, these guys with SCEA care about their product and obviously care about you and what you spend your money on. This game is already the best and they continue to go out of their way to make it better. I won't name names but some other companies in the industry better start taking notes on how SCEA does business, because people are sick and tired of spending a lot of money on garbage, when they have the resources to do so much better.

So thank you once again SCEA...you have put yourself in elite status in your industry and others should be envious of your work.

# 107 franch1se @ 03/03/10 01:53 PM

Adrian Gonzalez - D, A
Everth Cabrera - D, B

# 108 El_MaYiMbE @ 03/03/10 01:57 PM

I have a question,

If a player is obviously not getting any better but he is an All-Star should his potential be A?

Example:

Pujols is the best player in the universe, but he cannot get any better he is obviously going to be a force for the next few years but as he ages he will only slow down (4-5 more yrs?). Should his potential be A? Shouldnt it be a B or mayb even C because althought his overall rating is 99 (or what ever it is) he is only going to get worst not better. Even if he drops 1 point every year for the next 6 yrs he will still be 93 overall...

Is this how it works? Or if your the best your potential will stay at A?

# 109 El_MaYiMbE @ 03/03/10 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jebediah


	Does potential have any effect on your players if you are only playing a single season? I want to start a Season now, without having to wait for the roster update to fix the only potential issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

No, it will only effect you in Franchise because it is how players progress season to season.

# 110 sectiona21 @ 03/03/10 02:31 PM

This was the exact question I posted earlier. It seems like people are almost interpreting the potential rating as the overall rating. Not trying to question the poster's above request for A-Gone's potential rating to be increased to A, but he will be 28 this year and has a 3 year average of about .280/35/105. Now at 28 with those type of numbers, should that warrant an increase to an A potential? Like I mentioned before, the actual definition of the Potential Rating I'm still a little unclear of. I guess when I think of an A potential rating, I'm thinking more like a player such as '06 Tulo who was a Top 10 overall pick, was great in the minors while he was there, got his cup of coffee that year with the Rocks, but obviously wasn't up long enough at the end of the season to accumulate much stats...but everyone knows he is going to be a player. I would think in this situation, he would deserve an A potential rating for the '07 game.

# 111 Knight165 @ 03/03/10 02:34 PM

I wouldn't worry too much.
While they are asking for opinions....I'm sure ultimately...they(SCEA) will use their heads in changing these. They realize the original bug caused havac and mayhem...and will want this update to be as good and fair as possible.

M.K.
Knight165

# 112 bamaboy082 @ 03/03/10 02:38 PM

Quick question...ok take for instance Brian McCann of the Braves. Right now his player potential I believe is a D. I simmed a full season and I believe between seasons he went down 6 overall points. Brian is 26 now so that means at that rate by age 30 he will be a flat out average catcher. Who is to say by age 30 he won't be average? Players peak at different times of their career depending on many factors. Why should he get an A potential just because he was decent the last couple years?

Same goes for David Wright and Jose Reyes. Who knows when these guys will peak and then fall off the face of the Earth. I just don't know if this potential thing is as big a deal as some people are making it out to be. I kind of like some variety thrown into my franchise which would be current guys falling off and new talent coming up. Just a thought.

# 113 choadler @ 03/03/10 02:43 PM

Hopefully they don't go by what alot of people are putting down. Looks like potential inflation to me. All I see is people increasing potentials, I have yet to see anyone decreasing anyone's potential.

# 114 nuckles2k2 @ 03/03/10 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bamaboy082


	Quick question...ok take for instance Brian McCann of the Braves. Right now his player potential I believe is a D. I simmed a full season and I believe between seasons he went down 6 overall points. Brian is 26 now so that means at that rate by age 30 he will be a flat out average catcher. Who is to say by age 30 he won't be average? Players peak at different times of their career depending on many factors. Why should he get an A potential just because he was decent the last couple years? Same goes for David Wright and Jose Reyes. Who knows when these guys will peak and then fall off the face of the Earth. I just don't know if this potential thing is as big a deal as some people are making it out to be. I kind of like some variety thrown into my franchise which would be current guys falling off and new talent coming up. Just a thought.

I kinda agree with you. When I get my copy of The Show (hopefully today, I just want to beat ME2 so I can trade it in and get that extra 50%) I'm starting up a RTTS right away. Don't know if I'm going everyday player or pitcher first...but I'm not waiting. One of my RTTS modes will have the current potentials and my other mode will have the "corrected" ones and opening day roster.

I. CAN'T. WAIT.

I'm getting kind of jealous of all the folks that already have the game. Usually I can get sports games early from a store near my house but The Show kind of snuck up on me.

# 115 Knight165 @ 03/03/10 02:45 PM

Don't forget.....potential doesn't necessarily stay the same througout a players career anymore.....he may drop at some point!

M.K.
Knight165

# 116 jay10333 @ 03/03/10 02:47 PM

Current Potential / What is should be

For the Mets:

Pelfrey - C / B
Perez - C / B
Parnell - D / C
Nieve - F / C
Santos - D / C
Thole - D / C
Murphy - C / B
Cora - D / C
Wright - F / A
Reyes - F / A
Hernandez - F / D
Franceour - D / B

Thanks

# 117 bamaboy082 @ 03/03/10 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choadler


	Hopefully they don't go by what alot of people are putting down. Looks like potential inflation to me. All I see is people increasing potentials, I have yet to see anyone decreasing anyone's potential.

Exactly, good players peak and fall at various times

# 118 ty5oke @ 03/03/10 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamaboy082


	Quick question...ok take for instance Brian McCann of the Braves. Right now his player potential I believe is a D. I simmed a full season and I believe between seasons he went down 6 overall points. Brian is 26 now so that means at that rate by age 30 he will be a flat out average catcher. Who is to say by age 30 he won't be average? Players peak at different times of their career depending on many factors. Why should he get an A potential just because he was decent the last couple years? Same goes for David Wright and Jose Reyes. Who knows when these guys will peak and then fall off the face of the Earth. I just don't know if this potential thing is as big a deal as some people are making it out to be. I kind of like some variety thrown into my franchise which would be current guys falling off and new talent coming up. Just a thought.

Your logic could be used in both cases. He could end up being better or worse there is no way to perdict the future. All you can do is go by his proven track record, which is that he is a premiere catcher in the MLB today.

# 119 choadler @ 03/03/10 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165


	Don't forget.....potential doesn't necessarily stay the same througout a players career anymore.....he may drop at some point! M.K. Knight165

Do they go up as well?

# 120 sectiona21 @ 03/03/10 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165


	I wouldn't worry too much. While they are asking for opinions....I'm sure ultimately...they(SCEA) will use their heads in changing these. They realize the original bug caused havac and mayhem...and will want this update to be as good and fair as possible. M.K. Knight165

I completely agree.

This in no way would've been a deal breaker for me...the game is just that good. It's in my system as we speak, and god willing, next year at this same time MLB '11 will be as well.

I just applaud the fact that the guys over there at Sony are fixing these things so quickly and once again, listening to the community...the people who ultimately are paying their paychecks.

With this discussion about the potential rating, for me its more a thing that I'd like to know more about how each letter grade works than going through the game to find players who should be a B rather than a C. At 33, I come from a generation that played games like Atari baseball which had 3 fielders only on the field and moved all at the same time like they were triplets joined at birth. Or nightmare games that followed like MLB baseball for NES, some of the Bases Loaded games, the Triple Play series with their homerun sound effects off the bat that sounded like a bad thunderstorm in Kansas in mid July. I spent 40-50 bucks on all that crap and I'm sure I could go on. The Show is finally my reward for paying all that money over the last 20+ years on lousy baseball games. So a few potential ratings being a little off is not keeping me away from this work of art.

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