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Top Twenty Ways to Improve NBA 2K on the Court (Part One)

12:57 PM - September 24, 2009 by RaychelSnr

When most people look at the future of one of their favorite sports titles, they obviously want it to improve on a yearly basis so they don’t feel like they're playing the same game with updated rosters. One way we can help developers avoid this issue is by outlining the flaws that need fixing.

I previously talked about some necessary improvements that need to be made to the NBA 2K series to take it to the next level. But that was just a taste of what was to come. So without further delay, here are the top 20 ways NBA 2K can improve its game on the court.

Twenty Ways to Improve NBA 2K on the Court

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# 1 BroMontana82 @ 09/24/09 01:16 PM

defensive aggressiveness slider needs a comeback. also in regards to rebounds, they need to fix the glitch where defensive rebounds after blocked shots aren't being counted. this really hurts rebound stats across the board for both individuals and teams. i'm really not sure why this hasn't been addressed by 2k.

# 2 reginald_rush @ 09/24/09 01:21 PM

There was an auto defense on NBA2k a few years ago. After you scored a basket, your team, including the player you controlled would get back and play defense automaticly if you didn't touch any buttons or move the control. I was diappointed when this feature was removed.

# 3 cjamestx @ 09/24/09 01:33 PM

I will wait til I play the new game first

# 4 Fistpick @ 09/24/09 01:40 PM

Passing and what a higher passer rating actually means on the court needs addressing - in the meantime, "maximum passing" should be reimplemented.

# 5 Pared @ 09/24/09 03:07 PM

Decent article.

Some of the "necessary improvements" I don't agree with however. See the entire court? Change the camera angle.

As for the auto-defense, the game used to do this. Wonder what happened.

# 6 cjamestx @ 09/24/09 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Decent article. Some of the "necessary improvements" I don't agree with however. See the entire court? Change the camera angle. As for the auto-defense, the game used to do this. Wonder what happened.

Everybody wants sim....well players can see the whole court in real life.

# 7 Pared @ 09/24/09 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cjamestx


	Everybody wants sim....well players can see the whole court in real life.

Are you being sarcastic?

If you really wanted a simulation you wouldn't be able to see the entire court, only what is in your field of vision. Of course there's your peripheral vision, but that's insanely difficult to implement on a TV screen/monitor.

That comment actually doesn't make any sense... unless of course you were being sarcastic.

# 8 swiftychampleone @ 09/24/09 03:41 PM

What about true player movement? It seems like the players are running in place as they move down the court. It seems animation heavy. It should be a natural flow as the players walk. Not sliding.

# 9 CallMeDrop @ 09/24/09 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Are you being sarcastic? If you really wanted a simulation you wouldn't be able to see the entire court, only what is in your field of vision. Of course there's your peripheral vision, but that's insanely difficult to implement on a TV screen/monitor. That comment actually doesn't make any sense... unless of course you were being sarcastic.

School em Pared!

# 10 jeebs9 @ 09/24/09 04:26 PM

This is one thing I don’t understand. Ever since I’ve join online forums and stuff. I just don’t understand the complain of Auto-Ball (as they say on 2k forums) or Auto defense. It sounds like you’re going against everything that you ask for. You ask for simulation. But if someone throws a lazy pass on a defender like lets say James Posey or Bruce Bowen. I remember someone complain on 2k forums about Anderson Varejao and Big Z getting too many offensive rebounds for users. I mean they do it in real-life. Why shouldn’t they be able to do….exactly what do really do in real-life. Players with higher defensive awareness or high rebound ratings should be a little user friend. When not controlled. I think it’s your job to play to your personnel’s strength. If you throw a stupid pass in football. You should get it intercepted. Sometimes it sounds like you guys want a game where all the players stand around and don’t move. Unless a user is controlling them. No one would buy the game.

But I could totally understand you argument if you said sometimes like “Chris Paul is consistently getting offensive rebounds vs. my bigs because the computer is controlling him”. Then I could understand….But that doesn’t happen in 2k.

# 11 jshmoopy @ 09/24/09 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by swiftychampleone


	What about true player movement? It seems like the players are running in place as they move down the court. It seems animation heavy. It should be a natural flow as the players walk. Not sliding.

This is one of my major gripes with the game. I was doing the cone drill in the Draft combine yesterday and you can't just run around the cones like a guard would; you have to string the dribble animations together. It's much more difficult than it should be because it doesn't feel like you are walking/running, you feel trapped in a dribble animation.

Also, the scoring in the paint needs to be addressed. While playing the Draft Combine my player missed some put backs under the rim because the opposing team's C was right on me - this is good. In 2K9 I could make those with a tiny PG. I'm glad those baskets aren't automatic points. I hope that translates into 2K10 so that the mid-range game will actually be useful. I hated when I'd play someone and they'd have 70 points in the paint, 2 points off a mid-range jumper, and 21 points from the three.

# 12 JkA3 @ 09/24/09 04:53 PM

I expected to see player movement...did i miss it.

# 13 swiftychampleone @ 09/24/09 05:14 PM

I swear I hate to make comparisons because it may start a war. I'm an objective gamer, so here it is. Put that video of NBA Live 10 against that video of NBA 2K10. Watch how the players in Live bring the ball up the court and how players move their feet and legs. Notice how smooth and realistic it is. Then look at 2K's players. They are jogging while dribbling and moving. Too animation heavy and trapped in it, like jshmoopy stated. This was brought up in complaints about 2K9 and does NOT seem like the devs listened to the community.

# 14 Joka2122 @ 09/24/09 05:38 PM

Swiftychampleone, you have a point. Although I hate to compare both games myself, Live does out weigh in this area and should be implemented in 2k. Also further note, you may notice when watching Live players run a fast break, they push the ball in front of them to gain more momentum leading into a dunk or layup (very realistic) unlike 2k keeping the same simple running animation leading into a dunk or layup (very unrealistic).

All in all, 2k has great qualities that Live doesn't have, vise verse.

# 15 lv2bll @ 09/24/09 06:03 PM

why havent we seen ''top 50 ways to improve nba live on the court''

(sarcasm)

# 16 jshmoopy @ 09/24/09 06:16 PM

I don't know if anyone here has seen any of DaCzar's NBA Live 09 and NBA 2K9 comparisons, but he sums the control issue up very nicely.

# 17 swiftychampleone @ 09/24/09 06:42 PM

Well lv2bll, I would definitely agree that Live was literally shot in 07-09. As a matter fact, I hate when people yell Live is back when it should have been at this point a year or two ago. The last good hoops title was NBA 2K7. I don't care what anyone says, 2K9 was broken. Would you agree? I also remember DaCzar summation of control in both games. Live has better control. Players in 2K were sliding. Player movement should be the base of any sim-sports game.

I thought I would see help defense in this article. What about that?

# 18 Kushmir @ 09/24/09 06:53 PM

c'mon now...those are the bottom 10. HELP DEFENSE is in the Top 10! (wink)

# 19 Kushmir @ 09/24/09 06:55 PM

also...i think the "MEAT" of number 14 got lost in the editing. here's how it was supposed to read: Physical Defense Option - You know what we like? When post defenders body up offensive players and reroute a would-be drive to the basket, force a player to pick up their dribble or when they push post players off the block. Why isn’t this an option for us in gameplay? (playing defense in the post is SUPER difficult) we’re essentially reduced to try-and-block-the-shot defense when our options should be numerous. This tactic could be balanced by calling a foul semi-frequently so it isn’t abused and also by rewarding offensive players who make a quick move to the basket, leaving defenders who try to “body up” standing flat-footed (Amare spins off defenders effortlessly—and an Agile Shaq in his prime was the best at this) these elements would provide the proper balance to easily implement this as a useful gameplay mechanic.

# 20 swiftychampleone @ 09/24/09 06:59 PM

Shame on me. I should have known that Help D would be a major improvement. I totally apologize, Kushmir. Great article, BTW! I hope there will be a Live improvement article as well.

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