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NCAA Football 10 Patch #2 Details (Pasta Padre)

10:10 PM - August 24, 2009 by fsufan4423

Pasta Padre has posted patch #2 details for NCAA Football 10.

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	"EA Sports has released the details of the second patch for NCAA Football 10. This appears to be a very substantial patch which is somewhat expected since the first patch addressed little other than fixing the sliders, adding the ability to turn off DLC cheats in Online Dynasty, and making the somewhat more accurate rosters playable online. The patch is expected to be out soon but no official date has been specified as of yet. As has been pointed out though in the comments there is no mention of player progression. That has been one of the most discussed issues with the game and was anticipated to be fixed but according to the info has not been addressed. I�m also surprised that there hasn�t been adjustment made to the Aggressive (aka Facemask penalty) game planning."

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# 41 fistofrage @ 08/25/09 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cgrierwv75


	You all are just a bunch of cry babies. Yeah i said it. Maybe NCAA 10 isnt the best FOOTBALL game to date but it's the best NCAA to date. If you go back and play 04 or 06 you will see why. Sure they may have a few presentation things that dress them up alittle but as far as gameplay there is no contest. This is the best looking best playing ncaa ever. If you are an NFL fan go play madden. Madden and NCAA are not the same game! If NCAA ads a few things to dress it up again next year then fine. No game is ever going to be perfect, deal with it and enjoy the good parts. Like someone else has said... maybe you had to grow up playing tecmo bowl or SNES football games to enjoy what you have now.

I'm pretty sure that most of the people who grew up playing Super Tecmo Bowl found that game more entertaining and engaging than this.

Super Tecmo Bowl was light years ahead of anything else out there at the time. Especially in terms of stat tracking. NCAA 2010 is years behind its PS2 brethren in many areas.

# 42 Herky @ 08/25/09 12:02 PM

It's sad when NCAA 2004, 2006, and 2007 were the highlights for this series. 2004 actually moved forward and 2007 tweaked things here and there. Even sadder is that these were the PS2 versions.

NOTE: 2005 was terrible because of the drop glitch.

# 43 USWAY @ 08/25/09 01:13 PM

So they didn't make it so that you use double uniform numbers???? NOOOO!!!

# 44 da ThRONe @ 08/25/09 01:21 PM

The bottom line is if 90-95% of us did this on our jobs we would be fired. They continue to stain EA as a company and NCAA as a product. I have no faith in them as a Dev. Team none whats so ever. I will not purchase another NCAA game until they can convince me that they are committed to Sim stlye of play and show the have a legit plan to get there. The first step in this IMO will be to replace the lead dev. .

# 45 MMMonty @ 08/25/09 01:54 PM

Well that list just made me depressed...

# 46 BSanders @ 08/25/09 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cgrierwv75


	You all are just a bunch of cry babies. Yeah i said it. Maybe NCAA 10 isnt the best FOOTBALL game to date but it's the best NCAA to date. If you go back and play 04 or 06 you will see why. Sure they may have a few presentation things that dress them up alittle but as far as gameplay there is no contest. This is the best looking best playing ncaa ever. If you are an NFL fan go play madden. Madden and NCAA are not the same game! If NCAA ads a few things to dress it up again next year then fine. No game is ever going to be perfect, deal with it and enjoy the good parts. Like someone else has said... maybe you had to grow up playing tecmo bowl or SNES football games to enjoy what you have now.

What? I played SNES and Tecmo when I was younger but I still can see the flaws in NCAA 10. I know some of you will be happy with anything that comes out but most of us can see the problems and lack of presentation/effort in this years game. The best NCAA is still 06 ps2 and 09 was dressed up, it's called 10.

# 47 eyeamg0dly @ 08/25/09 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	The bottom line is if 90-95% of us did this on our jobs we would be fired. They continue to stain EA as a company and NCAA as a product. I have no faith in them as a Dev. Team none whats so ever. I will not purchase another NCAA game until they can convince me that they are committed to Sim stlye of play and show the have a legit plan to get there. The first step in this IMO will be to replace the lead dev. .

thats the truth, this is the first year i have been really upset with NCAA team. they made some very good gameplay improvements then turn around and destroy them with overdone aggressive gameplans and run commits. truth is those issues dont bother me the most. its the stupid crap that is in the game every single year that they refuse to fix. ill make a list although not in any particular order, just what comes to my head.

psychic defense and robo qb. amazing how the defense calls the ideal play majority of the time, lets say i come out in a 4 WR running play. its amazing how they will show up in their base 4-3 or 3-4 defense, you audible and then they audible too, it just gets old every single year. i wont explain robo qb since everyone knows what that is.

absolutely poor blocking ai makes it into this years game yet again this year, although imo its at an all time worst when the tackle does not engage DE properly leading to sacks, as well as slide protecting absolutely broken this year. OL still does not know how to pass off blocks or use any kind of zone blocking scheme vs stunts and blitzes, instead they pick one man to block and only block him. pulling linemen and leadblocking FB's still have no clue who to block when they hit the line of scrimmage.

broken hook zones are in this year yet again. for anyone not familiar, when the ball is placed on the hash, your hook zones are broken. its as if the zone is not programmed in relation to the ball on the field but instead based on the middle of the field resulting in an absurdly wide seam to throw the ball. this poor programming is why you see no adjustments made when the qb rolls out, the zone is supposed to shift to adjust to this.

sprinting causing OL to stop blocking. i dont know the logic behind this one, i dont know maybe my eyes deceive me, but i swear watching football replays the other day that IRL running backs do in fact hit the hole at full speed, and by running in the hole at fullspeed the dline does not magically come off their blocks. shocking i know.

defense overall speed in relation to the offense. its amazing when the defense is in a zone and you run the ball, the safety with amazing speed flies up to the line of scrimmage to stop the run for minimal gains. IRL this only happens when the safety is in the box and not accounted for, otherwise with good blocks this is infact a good or big running gain every single time. these strange speed differences are much more noticable this year because they actually fixed (mostly) pursuit angles.

i can keep going on, but lunch time is over and i need to get back on the road and keep working.

# 48 CR Shepard @ 08/25/09 02:21 PM

Adam and the rest of the developement team at EA you have dropped the ball. If the product I am responsible for was delivered to a customer in a state similar to what you guys handed us i would be fired. At the very, very least someone should have the sac to get on these threads and explain the thought process in denying your loyal base answers to how you could ignore the 2 major flaws and the decision to not address these in this patch.

I read where the 40 dollar return for college football ended yesterday and just by chance the patch was released today, without the fixes this game needs. I put alot of faith in the good of man, but that is way to coincidental for my tastes. If this is true you guys are hypocrits, cowards and thieves. I will never spend any money on any product that has that type of person involved.

# 49 OSUPiper @ 08/25/09 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cgrierwv75


	People play techmo bowl now b/c it was the first of it's kind, ground breaking and nostalgic. People don't play it b/c it's a better game. Much is the same with the ps2 series of NCAA and Madden. Those games were groundbreaking. Dynasty was created, online play created, and many other things that have never been seen before. Like most of you i put hundreds of hours into the ps2 versions of ncaa and probably more than i ever will with a new version. The reason why is b/c they were ground breaking. There will ALWAYS be a soft spot for 03-06 b/c it took things to the next level. But if you go back and play those games now they can't hold ncaa 10's jock. You all think they were better b/c of nostalga, sorry but they're not. Like i said if they decide to dress up ncaa 11 some then fine, so be it. But dont kid yourself, all those cuts scenes from madden and the old ncaa's get skipped over and over and over after the first time you see them. The GAME is what matters, and this is the most fun entertaining ncaa to date. Sorry.

People play TSB because it is more fun. It is a little ridiculous to claim that anyone would consistently play a game that was less entertaining.

As for the PS2/XBOX titles, for years I purchased new titles but ended up going back to 2004. Last year I bought every NCAA from 2004 to 2008 on XBOX. My goal was to find the one I thought really was the best. My hope was that a later version would be my choice because the graphics would naturally be better and there would be more options. In the end, I still chose 2004. I have played about 15-20 seasons in my current dynasty and I can't wait for my next game.

Show me anyone who says that about any next gen version of NCAA, much less 2010.

# 50 northface28 @ 08/25/09 02:42 PM

Has EA released an "official" list of patch #2? I would hate for every one to get riled up over hearsay.

# 51 HokiesCavs @ 08/25/09 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CR Shepard


	Adam and the rest of the developement team at EA you have dropped the ball. If the product I am responsible for was delivered to a customer in a state similar to what you guys handed us i would be fired. At the very, very least someone should have the sac to get on these threads and explain the thought process in denying your loyal base answers to how you could ignore the 2 major flaws and the decision to not address these in this patch. I read where the 40 dollar return for college football ended yesterday and just by chance the patch was released today, without the fixes this game needs. I put alot of faith in the good of man, but that is way to coincidental for my tastes. If this is true you guys are hypocrits, cowards and thieves. I will never spend any money on any product that has that type of person involved.

You do know that Adam is the ART guy, right? He has no control over what is patched, when information is released, or anything like that. Questioning the character of the only guy on the dev team that truly interacts with us is absurd and uncalled for.

# 52 JoBo513 @ 08/25/09 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	Has EA released an "official" list of patch #2? I would hate for every one to get riled up over hearsay.

The same list is posted on the EA forums too

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/290164.page

# 53 Dbrentonbuck @ 08/25/09 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HokiesCavs


	You do know that Adam is the ART guy, right? He has no control over what is patched, when information is released, or anything like that. Questioning the character of the only guy on the dev team that truly interacts with us is absurd and uncalled for.

True, unless you have a problem with the art, you shouldn't direct any hate toward Adam. That said, he is the representative for the rest of the dev team on this forum.

You know, I don't have as much of a problem with them not fixing things as I do with them not explaining why. That is what burns me. They come on these forums almost every day, but they seem to always disappear after the game or a patch is released. If they are truly serious about developing a relationship between the community and the devs, then THOSE are the times when they should come on and explain why certain decisions were made. I am not saying they should come on and listen to 300 people posting how they should be fired, but they should at lease post an explaination with the patch notes.

My guess is you won't hear from the devs until they come around pimping NCAA 11. This is the same thing that happened last year.

# 54 BoJackson @ 08/25/09 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFudge


	guys i just dont have the time to read all of these Patch 2 details post. Can someone simply tell me if any of these issues were addressed in the 2nd patch: -Broadcast CAM added -Realistically delay the CPU quick snap to allow human players time to make defensive presnap adjustments at the Line of Scrimmage -Tweak the Progression issue to allow more variety in talent and lack of -Tweak the current CAM to address high degree of over the shoulder CAM Wobble/ or add the 2008 CAM as a selectable Option in the settings screen Any luck?

NO, NO, NO, and NO.

# 55 knaw46 @ 08/25/09 03:44 PM

I thought it was pretty obvious from the start that the new cam was something people would have to get used to and that it wouldn't be patched.

I hated it like many do at the start, but have since learn to come accustomed to it.

# 56 callmetaternuts @ 08/25/09 05:03 PM

Posted this in another thread, figured I'd slap it in here also

I appreciate the effort of the NCAA team and Adam for comign here, answering our questions and putting up with us. I'm glad some of the issues are being patched, but am curious as to why others aren't.

That's the glaring issue. This year, the progression and fatigue issues seem to be the big "HOLY CRAP" issues that are plaguing the game. Last year it was the lack of a pass rush or defense. Both NCAA 09 and NCAA 10 have vocal and avid fan bases. We, myself included have posted on these issues (progression, fatigue in 10, defense/pass rush in 10) and those issues were not addressed.

While I'd like them to be fixed, I'm more curious as to why no reason is/was given to those issues. Was it too hard to patch? Is it not seen as an issue? Are we just being ignored? It's their title, and they (EA) can do what they want with it. I'm just curious after all this "community interaction" (which has been nice and proven helpful in areas), why are the vocal majority, and the "big" issues just brushed aside?

# 57 CR Shepard @ 08/25/09 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HokiesCavs


	You do know that Adam is the ART guy, right? He has no control over what is patched, when information is released, or anything like that. Questioning the character of the only guy on the dev team that truly interacts with us is absurd and uncalled for.

Just questioning the character of a company more than happy to communicate with their consumers when stirring up excitement for an upcoming game, and disapearing when the snake oil they are selling has issues that need addressing. Adam has been tasked to be their point man, unfortunately much critizism for a defective product will be directed through him. Absurd and uncalled for is marketing a product with features their consumer base are excited to implement and enjoy, only to find the product does not come close to delivering. If the developers don't like to be called out on faulty products then maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

# 58 HokiesCavs @ 08/25/09 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CR Shepard


	Just questioning the character of a company more than happy to communicate with their consumers when stirring up excitement for an upcoming game, and disapearing when the snake oil they are selling has issues that need addressing. Adam has been tasked to be their point man, unfortunately much critizism for a defective product will be directed through him. Absurd and uncalled for is marketing a product with features their consumer base are excited to implement and enjoy, only to find the product does not come close to delivering. If the developers don't like to be called out on faulty products then maybe it's time to find a new line of work.

You are entitled your opinions and I respect them. I also recognize your frustration because much of your criticism is legitimate. However, questioning the character of Adam is something that I just don't agree with. As I said, it wasn't his decision on what to patch and what not to patch, so he probably can't come on right away and inform everyone why certain things were done and certain things weren't. He probably doesn't know why, himself. Even if he does, why should come on here and tell us when he's just going to get blasted by everyone? I'm confident we'll eventually get an answer as to why certain things weren't addressed in the patch.

# 59 CameronKrazie86 @ 08/25/09 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ka520


	Ok I'm gonna ask again, Is the patch out yet?

According to the first post, no official release date has been set but it's expected to be out soon.

# 60 HokiesCavs @ 08/25/09 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by peteykirch


	If Adam is the "Art Guy" and oversees that whole Department, how did he allow the Iowa facemask mixup when we saw pictures of it being correct, and then we get bait and switch. That should be EA's Motto. If we can bait your interest, we can swap the end result.

He addressed this in another thread. He told them to fix it. They fixed it. He made sure that it was black in game and then didn't think about it again because he thought it was resolved. Somehow it got switched back to white after that. Yes this was unfortunate, but he explained what happened and apologized for it, which is why I am confident he will eventually answer our questions about the patch.

Besides, why in the world would they post a fix and then intentionally go back and break it, as you insinuate they did? Just because there have been issues with the game doesn't mean that EA is intentionally trying to destroy the game for people. That's just ridiculous.

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