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# 241 Pared @ 08/08/09 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
The difference is, these are "touch ups" and "aesthetics", not fundamental parts of basketball.
Simple question:

Would you say they were necessary to replicate NBA basketball?
 
# 242 jfsolo @ 08/08/09 01:43 PM
If someone wants to declare a game the best ever, I'm totally O.K. with that, even if I personally feel it may be a bit premature. I'll take that over relentless bashing, and calling developers out of their name, every day of the week.

Barring some unfortunate bugs that aren't patchable, I think both NBA games are going to be GREAT this year, which one will be the best? that going to be a matter of opinion, probably mostly based on player control and artistic style.

A lot of us will get both games and OD on basketball goodness. I just hope that those who choose only one game don't feel the need to justify their singular purchase by taking juvenile shots at the other game.

We're not talking about it much now, but I actually hope that somehow, someway, NCAA Basketball 10 is actually the best game of the three. College Basketball Dynasty mode done correctly >>>> every other game mode ever, IMO of course.
 
# 243 TracerBullet @ 08/08/09 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
The difference is, these are "touch ups" and "aesthetics", not fundamental parts of basketball.
I'm happy they have them in. It doesn't matter if 2k had them or not if it's a part of basketball. It's a good thing for them to be in there. And copying "touch ups" is worse than copying fundamental parts of basketball that need to be in the game in my book. That shows copying more than representing fundamentals of basketball does imo. But honestly I don't care I just want a good basketball game. There is no reason to try to make the other one look worse.
 
# 244 HeavenlyTouch @ 08/08/09 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pared
Simple question:

Would you say they were necessary to replicate NBA basketball?
I was responding to him, the fact they added them is excellent.

He said 2k responded by adding certain features, I was pointing out that those features are small in comparison to what Live was missing.

Again, I love what Live has done, and I am more than convinced I will finally try out the game this year. I was an avid live fan up to the year 2004 and played since Live 97, I loved the commentary last year but really looked for a reason to try it out and I wasn't given one when I saw how robotic and arcadish the game looked.

That being said, I have high hopes. Like I stated, the player dribbling is very nice. I like what LeBron did in the vid, that was extremely authentic to what he does in real life. Furthermore, the boxing out sequences with Dwight/Bynum/KG were really great and lifelike, I have no reason to hate this game. My point was to say that people were wowed and amazed by certain aspects that should have been there a long time ago, nonetheless, it's a great improvement and achievement and I'm glad a new team took over Live.

Lastly, 2k9 was in no way a GOOD basketball game. In fact, it was far from it. The animations simply made up for all the glitches/bugs/gameplay problems; it was an arcade fest.
 
# 245 TracerBullet @ 08/08/09 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfsolo
If someone wants to declare a game the best ever, I'm totally O.K. with that, even if I personally feel it may be a bit premature. I'll take that over relentless bashing, and calling developers out of their name, every day of the week.

Barring some unfortunate bugs that aren't patchable, I think both NBA games are going to be GREAT this year, which one will be the best? that going to be a matter of opinion, probably mostly based on player control and artistic style.

A lot of us will get both games and OD on basketball goodness. I just hope that those who choose only one game don't feel the need to justify their singular purchase by taking juvenile shots at the other game.

We're not talking about it much now, but I actually hope that somehow, someway, NCAA Basketball 10 is actually the best game of the three. College Basketball Dynasty mode done correctly >>>> every other game mode ever, IMO of course.
Great post! Agree with everything you said here.
 
# 246 Pared @ 08/08/09 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
... the fact they added them is excellent.
I think that's all that really matters here.
 
# 247 P21J @ 08/08/09 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfsolo
If someone wants to declare a game the best ever, I'm totally O.K. with that, even if I personally feel it may be a bit premature. I'll take that over relentless bashing, and calling developers out of their name, every day of the week.

Barring some unfortunate bugs that aren't patchable, I think both NBA games are going to be GREAT this year, which one will be the best? that going to be a matter of opinion, probably mostly based on player control and artistic style.

A lot of us will get both games and OD on basketball goodness. I just hope that those who choose only one game don't feel the need to justify their singular purchase by taking juvenile shots at the other game.

We're not talking about it much now, but I actually hope that somehow, someway, NCAA Basketball 10 is actually the best game of the three. College Basketball Dynasty mode done correctly >>>> every other game mode ever, IMO of course.
true that. I really hope EA nails their NCAA game next year.
 
# 248 KidHypeTellem @ 08/08/09 01:54 PM
I think the point you're missing is that it's not a 'wow' because it's a new feature or like it's things that shouldn't be there that are there, It's a wow because it's finally in the Live series. I've been buying Live every year 2001 and 2K since 2K5, And theres always been things about one that i'd wished was in the other, and when the other did get the feature, instead of looking at it as 'yea well the other one had that', I saw it more as, yes finally it has that feature.

For people that are Live only gamers, it's irrelevant if 2K had it as they wouldn't even know, so this would be an exciting feature to be added.
 
# 249 Jamin23 @ 08/08/09 01:57 PM
EA is not trying to copy 2k. They are trying to make the best basketball simulation possible. With them adding the fundamentals of basketball, I would not say that they copied 2k. Just because 2k had them first doesn't mean that EA can't put them in their game. Also EA is trying to get away from adding the features every year. This is not what I call a back of the box feature. They are trying to add all the little stuff to make a great game. That's all, they are not looking at nba 2k and saying lets steal their idea.
 
# 250 HeavenlyTouch @ 08/08/09 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamin23
EA is not trying to copy 2k. They are trying to make the best basketball simulation possible. With them adding the fundamentals of basketball, I would not say that they copied 2k. Just because 2k had them first doesn't mean that EA can't put them in their game. Also EA is trying to get away from adding the features every year. This is not what I call a back of the box feature. They are trying to add all the little stuff to make a great game. That's all, they are not looking at nba 2k and saying lets steal their idea.
No one ever stated that.
 
# 251 KChow21 @ 08/08/09 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
No one ever stated that.
You are joking right?
 
# 252 HeavenlyTouch @ 08/08/09 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KChow21
You are joking right?
There is a difference between saying "they stole 2k's features!".. and saying "They were missing fundamental parts of basketball that were apparent in 2k".
 
# 253 XxX syntax XxX @ 08/08/09 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
No one ever stated that.
Ea is going back to the way they use to be from live 05 and you can tell..Why would they try to copy 2k...When i seen the producer vid and the mo-cap i was sold
 
# 254 KChow21 @ 08/08/09 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
There is a difference between saying "they stole 2k's features!".. and saying "They were missing fundamental parts of basketball that were apparent in 2k".
Nice way of rewording what you been saying last few hours... anyway looking forward to next week's gameplay blog
 
# 255 HeavenlyTouch @ 08/08/09 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KChow21
Nice way of rewording what you been saying last few hours... anyway looking forward to next week's gameplay blog
You sound like a child.

go read over all my posts and see where I clearly stated, "this was stolen!"
 
# 256 KChow21 @ 08/08/09 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
You sound like a child.

go read over all my posts and see where I clearly stated, "this was stolen!"
You didn't CLEARLY state that the features were stolen, but what Jamin23 said on his post is what you been going on for hours... if this done and over with, I'm gonna watch the trailer again
 
# 257 Jano @ 08/08/09 02:26 PM
From a 2K players perspective I agree these improvements aren't that great but to a Live player they are because they are making the game better then last year.

And that is what we want to see improvement because the game was already fun to begin with in our opinions so this will just make it even more fun.
 
# 258 crazybandit2000 @ 08/08/09 02:38 PM
vid was okay. crowd looked great.. but as said many of these features were needed in the game although already featured in the 'other' game; so i truly dont kno how to judge that. i'd rather see gameplay action than trailers to be the judge of which one is a must buy..
 
# 259 brownclown @ 08/08/09 02:39 PM
2nd Quarter Score 2:00 remaining

2K Live
19 58

Its a wrap for 2K and i mean this
 
# 260 KChow21 @ 08/08/09 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybandit2000
vid was okay. crowd looked great.. but as said many of these features were needed in the game although already featured in the 'other' game; so i truly dont kno how to judge that. i'd rather see gameplay action than trailers to be the judge of which one is a must buy..
I agree...Looks are deceiving
 


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