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NHL 2K10 redefines the sports gaming experience with a new emphasis on social gaming. Whether you're a die-hard NHL fan or a casual player, NHL 2K10's pick-up-and-play controls, true-to-life authenticity and variety of on- and off-line multiplayer modes promise hours of entertainment for any gamer. Among the new features that will make this the must-have hockey game of the season include:

New Gameplay Mechanics - Completely rewritten AI, enhanced defensive controls and stick lifts, stumble shots, a new defensive skating model and new incidental contact and small animation systems

Enhanced Presentation - All-new rink intros for each arena, improved goal celebrations, enhanced visuals, and greatly improved, true-to-life character models, with San Jose Sharks commentators Randy Hahn and Drew Remenda returning with new broadcast commentary

Improved Franchise Mode - NHL 2K10 features a new contract/free agency system, improved roster management, an updated financial model, dynamic player progression, and fantasy drafts

New Franchise Co-op Play - Play a franchise season game with or against a friend on- or offline, or play a traditional game against the CPU

Franchise Blog / 2KSports.com Integration - Publish your franchise stats and standings, and upload game highlights and screenshots to your personal page at 2KSports.com

Enhanced Online Modes - New seamless online integration connects players in Team Up games, tracks your progress with My Player Card, and offers full league, leaderboard, tournament and 2K Share support

Create Team Mode - Create a persistent team with friends by designing your uniforms, developing a unique team identity, and then competing against other created teams online, offline and in Franchise mode

Wii SPECIFIC FEATURES:

New Control Scheme - Choose between fun, easy-to-use Wii Remote and Nunchuk controls and Sideways Wii Remote support, or plug in a Wii Classic Controller for three ways to play

Full Online Modes - For the first time, enjoy full online support for Wii, including multiplayer and multi-console match-ups, downloadable rosters, online leagues, tournaments, leaderboards and Team Up mode featuring persistant created teams and regular Pick-Up Games

WiiMotion Plus and WiiSpeak Support - Enjoy online voice chat capabilities via WiiSpeak and precise one-to-one control with WiiMotion Plus

NHL 2K10 launches on September 15th for Wii(TM) system, Xbox 360(TM) video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system.

For more details visit http://www.2ksports.com/games/nhl2k10.

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# 41 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
So the presentation makes you feel rewarded even if its generally a shot that SHOULD have been stopped yet the AI driving the goaltenders is so downright awful you prolly shouldn't have gotten the goal in the first place.

Thats what gets me with 2k9, theres so many head shaking instances on scoring chances that end up in the net due to either bad positioning or a lack of reaction, no 5 man hug after the fact really would help me personally feel any more rewarded. If the AI actually is completely rewritten in a single year (which I still think is just a bullet point) it'll be moot, but I still want to SEE it for myself before I think of dropping the cash on 2k10.
Realm, I understand that your into the minute details of hockey and how the a.i. should be, but I find it hard to believe that you have analyzed every goal in 2k9 and come away with the conclusion that the majority of the goals shouldn't have been scored or are fluky due to poor goal tending A.I. What mathematical equation did you use to come to such a conclusion. I just don't get it.
 
# 42 Vince @ 07/26/09 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie1967
No offense, but you could never dash my hopes. You can wait and see, but I'm over joyed at the feature list and I have no reason to doubt what they are saying about improvements. After seeing how the NBA series has improved year after year and the one year of 2k baseball, I have all the faith in the world that what we are reading is what we will get. I'm ecstatic to say the least. And it was a 2 year project, as I have read this several times. I'll have to take the word of the DEVELOPER on that one. I'm just saying. VC knows what they are doing when it comes to sports games.
lol, no way...NBA 2k8 was much better than 2k9

And MLB 2k9 was an abbomination compared to 2k8.
 
# 43 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince
lol, no way...NBA 2k8 was much better than 2k9

And MLB 2k9 was an abbomination compared to 2k8.
Opinions are like.........Well you know the rest.
 
# 44 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
Pretty much every time I fire up 2k9 (keep in mind I've tried tons of slider combos finally settling on Savoie's HOF sliders) I'll see goals that either the cpu AI defender was so out of position on the play it was an easy rebound, or an unscreened goalie just decided to barely make a save attempt, I dunno it just cheapens the whole thing to me. I think what it really comes down to is positioning or lack there of, the AI is so much more focused on either checking someone away from the play (which should be interference in the first place) or a goalie over commits so much he ends up way out of the net which happens far more than it should in 2k9. To me it just doesn't feel all that rewarding at all a lot of the time.

I love all the little specific touches to particular arenas and its definately something EA could add down the line so I'm not at all knocking the game on that aspect but being such a big franchise/offline guy I don't get the challenge that I get in 09 if I make a mistake on defense because 8 out of 10 times the CPU ai will pass out of a great scoring chance for a one timer or send it back to the point to a defenseman who forgot where the blueline was and is offsides, where as I leave an undefended guy open in the slot in 09 if he's a star or good scorer 9 outta 10 times I'm gonna pay for that and give up a goal.

Thats not to say 09's ai is anywhere near perfect or even that much better with the lack of player movement from your AI control teamates or that they tend to be a little too passive in their pursuit at times (both of which seem to be fixed in 10) But I'll still take it over what 2k9's abysmal AI is.

Again if they have indeed managed to correct alot of the AI issues for 2k10 it won't even be an arguement but I'm fairly doubtful that they totally rewrote the AI in one dev cycle like the're trying to claim. At least til I see it in action on tweaked sliders, or have the chance to play it myself on tweaked sliders.
As far as the A.I. is concerned, I pay for mistakes dearly and the cpu is more than willing to take a shot when I leave an opening. I turned up the offense for the cpu to 60 (defaults at 50 and the only slider I have touched) and I tell you I have to be very careful on my own end of the ice. I have lost many 2 goal leads because of this. Now some of that may be how I play I'm not sure, but if I leave just a little crack the CPU goes right for the kill. This has been the most challenging hockey game I have played. I'm just talking 2k since I haven't spent a lot of time with EA.
 
# 45 Vince @ 07/26/09 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie1967
Opinions are like.........Well you know the rest.
well you are in the minority....I'm not trying to be an ***, but it's true...Go around both forums and most ppl will say the 2k8 versions of each game where better...Especially in the case of MLB.

So yeah you're entitled to your opinion, which I respect, but that opinion is not widespread by any stretch of the imagination...
 
# 46 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince
well you are in the minority....I'm not trying to be an ***, but it's true...Go around both forums and most ppl will say the 2k8 versions of each game where better...Especially in the case of MLB.

So yeah you're entitled to your opinion, which I respect, but that opinion is not widespread by any stretch of the imagination...
But what does that matter. It's what I like not what the majority likes. Silly argument. You follow the crowd, I'll go with what I like.
 
# 47 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottdau
I am still pumped for this game. The AI might be a problem to you guys, but to me it was fine and to think that they made the goal celebrations and Arenas better have me even more pumped for this game. Thank God I have a job that goes so fast. Weeks go just as fast as the Weekends, so September will be here before I know it!
I'm with you Scott, I find it far from broken. It is more than fine and with the new features it can only get better. I can't wait for September to get here.
 
# 48 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
I would imagine the majority opinion would carry alot more weight than that of a vocal few I think is the point he was trying to make. I agree with him. One can argue the shorter MLB dev cycle attributed to the issues the game has, and that very well could be true. The framerate issue though while its better in MLB2k9 dates back to the design decision on 2k's part to start on the current systems with a last gen engine. And its a decision thats going to haunt them for the entire rest of the current console life span imo. In the case of NBA they lost key members of the NBA2k team to EA and subsequently to the NBA Live team which may help explain the issues in 2k9 that make it not being quite as good as 2k8 in many peoples opinion, mine included.

Personally I'm amazed that the only slider in NHL2k9 you've touched is the offensive AI slider and have no issues at all with how the goalies perform on default sliders as the goalies are prolly the one thing that need the most slider tweaks in 2k9 to make them at least be tolerable. (And I tip my hat to Savoie on his sliders for that one thing right there)
I don't agree but that's okay. I think the improvements VC made with MLB and NHL were outstanding considering it was their first year at it. And NBA 2k9 was a much better product than 2k8, it wasn't even close IMHO, so there is nothing to compare there. The majority carries no weight with me.
 
# 49 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
I can understand that point of view Scott and its all good. Nothing wrong with just wanting something fun to play and not worry about all the little things. In Eddie's case though that doesn't explain how he goes out of his way to defend 2k at every turn, if he's of the same opinion of yourself Scott and just finds 2k9 fun, then why the EA bashing that he does? And why the need to dispute every single post that says the slightest negative thing towards 2k even when its a justified gripe? Thats the part I don't understand.
I don't bash EA, I simply stated that their products are not as good as 2k's and I stand by that. As far as that back and forth with Vince, well he started the "majority" thing. If that meant anything to me, then I would like EA hockey based off of this forums, but that would also mean that I would be playing the inferior product. People can have gripes about the game but when they try to convince me of something I don't think is true, then I respond to them. Somethings are not meant to be understood. It's just the way it is.
 
# 50 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottdau
I think for Eddie since we are a little older and our silks are gone. I think we just want a game that is fun to play and give us a little sim in the same time. I still get realistic stats with this game. And that is all I ever wanted. Plus have I said how much I love the goal celebrations.
Yes you have talked about how much you like the goal celebrations lol. Hopefully those 5 man hugs are in 2k10 just for you. Heck, I like those little things too.

The age thing does make a difference. I don't have the time nor the patience to see all of the negatives that might be there. Like you said fun and sim is all I need and for my money 2k sports games are exactly that with all of their games.
 
# 51 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
And you wonder why people call you bias. You have said you don't play EA's game but you know its the inferior game and you're qualified to judge people who have played both and call them wrong on perfering EA's game currently. You're right, something like that outlook is so insane its hard to understand.
I never said I don't play EA games, I said I don't buy them. Based on what I have seen and know about the past versions of EA hockey, they are inferior but I also said NHL10 looks to be improved this year. I'm not sure about purchasing it, but it definitely warrants a longer look.

You have been cool lately realm so I edited this post. No need to bring up our arguing past.
 
# 52 Vince @ 07/26/09 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie1967
But what does that matter. It's what I like not what the majority likes. Silly argument. You follow the crowd, I'll go with what I like.
good for you man...but change your quote then...you wrote "what we are seeing is what we will get"...maybe just include in your opinion...

Well what we got was regression from 2k8 to 2k9 in their 3 sports titles...

yeah it's your opinion, but it is still a message boardm man and things like these spark debate...which is why we discuss it, no?

it would be fun to debate points and not have someone just say, well it's my opinion and i don't care what anyone else thinks
 
# 53 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince
good for you man...but change your quote then...you wrote "what we are seeing is what we will get"...maybe just include in your opinion...

Well what we got was regression from 2k8 to 2k9 in their 3 sports titles...

yeah it's your opinion, but it is still a message boardm man and things like these spark debate...which is why we discuss it, no?

it would be fun to debate points and not have someone just say, well it's my opinion and i don't care what anyone else thinks
That's cool, and I'm not saying my opinion rules. Maybe I come off that way sometimes but I obviously care what others think or I wouldn't be in these forums reading opinions every day. I have no problem debating a point.
 
# 54 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottdau
This is what it really comes down to me. That is why I like 2k9 becasue out of the 2 I think it has more of what I want. Presentation and gameplay. But that is just my opinion.
IMHO I think it's more fun. The presentation and gameplay have improved enough to keep me satisfied from one year to the next. The arenas also play a huge part in keeping my attention.
 
# 55 Flyermania @ 07/26/09 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie1967
The age thing does make a difference. I don't have the time nor the patience to see all of the negatives that might be there. Like you said fun and sim is all I need and for my money 2k sports games are exactly that with all of their games.
I don't think age has anything to do with it...as a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet I am older than you & Scottdau.

It blows my mind that you only adjust one slider (by one click nonetheless) off of 2k's default settings and feel that it plays sim. Both games play an arcade-style out-of-the-box. I'm getting the impression that you tend to like more of that style -- which is fine but also explains why you may not like EA's game as much as it has been more of a sim-style since it went next-gen.

Not trying to come across the wrong way, but do you follow & watch the real NHL much?
 
# 56 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
You've called me out plenty of times, and really I'm not the only person who wouldn't be suprised if you were one. No but you spend time here arguing with people who point out issues with 2k's game in hopes they get fixed like its an insult that someone finds a flaw with something in the game, and generally you reply with the same post over and over and over 2k9 is the best game I ever played almost like its a prepaired response yet you barely expand upon why you like 2k's titles. When you come off sounding like a paid shill 99.9% of the time what do you expect people to think? Its not rocket science. We get it, you really like 2k9 and think 2k is the greatest ever.
Realm, I edited the last part of my post that you quoted. Too late I guess. I am guilty of calling people out your right. Jim didn't give me the "2k police" title for nothing, but hey I'm trying to work on that.

I wish I was paid to do that, but unfortunately I'm not. It's just an opinion that's all. A lot of people here bring up good points, I just don't happen to agree with many of them. I use words like great, but I don't mean perfect. It's just good enough for me. I want the series to improve but I just don't see the flaws that other people see.
 
# 57 Eddie1967 @ 07/26/09 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyermania
I don't think age has anything to do with it...as a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet I am older than you & Scottdau.

It blows my mind that you only adjust one slider (by one click nonetheless) off of 2k's default settings and feel that it plays sim. Both games play an arcade-style out-of-the-box. I'm getting the impression that you tend to like more of that style -- which is fine but also explains why you may not like EA's game as much as it has been more of a sim-style since it went next-gen.

Not trying to come across the wrong way, but do you follow & watch the real NHL much?
Devils fan since 1989, grew up Jersey attended many of their games. And I watch a lot of it on T.V. when I can. Now that probably doesn't mean much. I have liked football since I was 6, but I definitely couldn't get into a debate on the intricacies of the sport with some like LBrulz. What I'm trying to say is that I would bet you and realm probably have more detailed knowledge of the game than I do even with my years of watching hockey. I know that from reading your posts.

I have never been a fan of adjusting sliders too much unless I felt something was blatantly wrong.
 
# 58 savoie2006 @ 07/27/09 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
So do the rest of us trust me, I played nothing but 2k's game for quite a few years until NHL07 hit. Not all of us wear blinders when playing though and I think thats prolly why you don't see the flaws others do.
See though, it's not about wearing blinders so much, as it is just enjoying the gameplay that is offered. I'm pretty much the same way, which is why NHL2K9 appeals to me. Simply because I'm not looking so much for what is just like the NHL and what is not. In other words, I don't really care if the pads aren't correct or the puck is a little big, or if the skating animations are a little off. I play the game for enjoyment and being so analytical only takes away from that. It's really what makes me think gamers will never be completely happy with their sports games. Realism is important in a way, but with alot, it seems they want uber realism and I just don't think that will ever be achieved with video games.
 
# 59 JimmyDeicide @ 07/27/09 01:01 PM
Underneath the badly implemented controls and the quirky animations and the mediocre player models there is a really awesome game of hockey to be had with 2k9, i still play it every day and every game still has a reelmaker moment in it, in fact i took one from my last 4 games and uploaded them so i could post them here just to show some people what it can be like only to find my gamertag 2k link thingymagig is all screwed up which is why i wasnt able to play in an online league also.

I think 2k10 is going to be a rally great game for me as i love 2k9 still.
I really liked 09 as well but for season play 2k cant be beat in my book, every game was/is different even down to the speed at some arenas its almost as if the ice is quicker in some arenas but it may be due to fatigue , dont care tho it all adds up to a great time. Im on my 8th season.
Ive only made the playoffs once with my kings and that was because i simmed to them lol.

Just wanted to show some support for 2k as they are getting a bad wrap i feel.
 
# 60 Qb @ 07/27/09 01:34 PM
Guess what, I'm going to make an on-topic post -- if I could ever get my friend online, we could relive the good ol' days of bachelorhood by playing a co-op season. Nice addition...
 


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