NCAA Football 10 News Post

NCAA Football 10 Rosters Issue

06:11 PM - June 10, 2009 by Russell_Kiniry_EA

Hey guys... so we are aware of the issue with no (or few) freshmen on some teams in TeamBuilder and yes the same issues are found on the NCAA 10 disc. Over the past few days, one of our top priorities has been investigating solutions.

The TeamBuilder teams require some data on the disc to set Depth Charts for every team created before they can be used in a game. For example if you use the Cupcake roster as a starting point, NCAA 10 will give you a default Depth Chart for the Cupcakes for your TeamBuilder team (which you can edit in game). This means any changes we make could cause some problems with teams already created using TeamBuilder. So we need to ensure we are taking to proper steps to correct the issues.

We understand the concerns with how this can affect Dynasty mode and Online Games, so we are working hard to have a solution in place before launch on July 14th.

-Russ

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# 361 gator3guy @ 06/12/09 12:02 AM

I just read through all 45 pges of this thread, so you can tell this is an important part of the game for me. I really don't know what to think of the roster issue. I'd like to think that rosters in general have not been a problem in the past, and won't be an issue this year, but I'm really worried. I figured this year was gonna be 09 with a roster update, but with the speculation of butchered rosters it may not even be that good. I still am optimistic things will work out. This time every year we know nothing about the rosters and they turn out fine (considering the amount of work). Why should this year be any different? (I may have answered my own question).

# 362 Roggie @ 06/12/09 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gator3guy


	I just read through all 45 pges of this thread, so you can tell this is an important part of the game for me. I really don't know what to think of the roster issue. I'd like to think that rosters in general have not been a problem in the past, and won't be an issue this year, but I'm really worried. I figured this year was gonna be 09 with a roster update, but with the speculation of butchered rosters it may not even be that good. I still am optimistic things will work out. This time every year we know nothing about the rosters and they turn out fine (considering the amount of work). Why should this year be any different? (I may have answered my own question).

Because, this year, instead of doing rosters up to the last second before it goes gold, they let them go 3 weeks early with teambuilder. And teambuilder's rosters epicly fail.

That's why this year is different.

# 363 Travis40 @ 06/12/09 01:37 AM

Is this going to effect offline games as well?

Just wondering

# 364 gator3guy @ 06/12/09 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Roggie


	Because, this year, instead of doing rosters up to the last second before it goes gold, they let them go 3 weeks early with teambuilder. And teambuilder's rosters epicly fail. That's why this year is different.

Yea i figured I'd let someone else say it...IT'S EA

# 365 Roggie @ 06/12/09 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis40


	Is this going to effect offline games as well? Just wondering

Yes, until you download a new roster to replace it.

# 366 andybaseball2005 @ 06/12/09 02:49 AM

I wonder if the PS2 version's roster will have the same problem as the 360 and PS3.

It shouldn't because their is no teambuilder mode in the PS2 version.

# 367 Roggie @ 06/12/09 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by andybaseball2005


	I wonder if the PS2 version's roster will have the same problem as the 360 and PS3. It shouldn't because their is no teambuilder mode in the PS2 version.

Uhmm, they use the same roster file. Why wouldn't it?

# 368 TheLegend3001 @ 06/12/09 03:33 AM

Wait, are all of you saying that EA uses the likeness of the current college football rosters? Isn't that illegal?

To be honest, I remember back in the day when we use to a game that gave us the previous rosters. Don't ya'll realize that that if EA comes out and say that they will update the roster, then they will be admitting that they use current players? Some of you need to chill out and be patient. If you don't like it, then don't buy it and the results will be in the sales if the majority agrees. But to keep crying about it is useless.

# 369 TheLegend3001 @ 06/12/09 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevedrumsdw


	An updated roster has nothing to do with the potential outcome of this case. The game already has enough examples of this "evidence". A roster update is totally irrelavent to this case at this point the damage (if there is any) would already be done. Changing a few things around to fix some teams will not effect this case. EA has been doing this for years and many games have likenesses of players, So now they just vary the roster a little bit to try and throw off potential evidence , makes no sense . it does not matter plane and simple. This roster issue is one of incompetance not one of legal implications

My point is that they are not going to come right out and say that they will update the rosters. They will say that they will fix the issues with the freshmen. If you say that you are updating them, then what are you saying? What are you updating them to? EA will not come out any say that, but it doesn't mean that they aren't going to do anything about it. I think they will but they will not say it in the way that people want to hear it BECAUSE of the legal issues.
So I agree that they messed up. They have acknowledged it, and said that they will work on a solution. What else do you want at this point in time? Some people has taken if way too personal by calling them incompetent, saying that they should fire people and so forth. It is only a game and I think that some are taking it too far with the personal insults.

I definitely am not saying that we should be censored. But there has to be a point where you are going to say f' it and don't buy it. To keep making threads and making attacks that can be view as personal is going a little too far. There is a difference in saying, "I don't like how the game is shaping up", and "I think that this person should be fired". There is a difference between I'm not buying this game", and "they are incompetent".

# 370 moylan1234 @ 06/12/09 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stevedrumsdw


	An updated roster has nothing to do with the potential outcome of this case. The game already has enough examples of this "evidence". A roster update is totally irrelavent to this case at this point the damage (if there is any) would already be done. Changing a few things around to fix some teams will not effect this case. EA has been doing this for years and many games have likenesses of players, So now they just vary the roster a little bit to try and throw off potential evidence , makes no sense . it does not matter plane and simple. This roster issue is one of incompetance not one of legal implications

It won't affect this case, but it could potentialy add more fuel to the fire for future cases. Also calm down with the incompetance stuff. like no one on here as ever made a mistake at their jobs before. the idea is to cultivate the relationship with these developers not to drive them away from the boards.

# 371 caseym12 @ 06/12/09 09:14 AM

The rosters that shipped with teambuilder.....that's just laziness. I've bought every year of NCAA for as long as i can remember. If the rosters arent fixed , I know I wont be buying this game. Maybe none of us should, maybe just maybe then The Ncaa dev. team would well...maybe do some work for 11.

# 372 Herky @ 06/12/09 12:14 PM

Since I'm such a big roster and realism guy I'd work for EA without pay and bust my butt to get them right. I can't speak for other people on here who have done rosters, but I know there are some passionate editors out there who do a damn good job for free already.

# 373 aimiami @ 06/12/09 12:15 PM

anybody know when theyll 7update us again on this?

# 374 Rivers17ncsu @ 06/12/09 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by droopizzle34


	Speculation????? Come on guys! Do you really believe this was an oversight or an accident? Gimme a break man! EA DID THIS ON PURPOSE! Okay seriously.....you don't think Sam Keller's lawsuit has nothing to do with the rosters being "accidentally" messed up?????? I SMELL A RAT!

you do understand that if EA changed what they were doing because of Keller's lawsuit then they would be admitting fault right? That would be a dumb move by EA

# 375 Rivers17ncsu @ 06/12/09 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bipolar


	It's actually a pretty damn good one.

it really wasn't

# 376 OMT @ 06/12/09 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aimiami


	anybody know when theyll 7update us again on this?

We will give an update when we have a final plan of action in place.

# 377 dfoz3 @ 06/12/09 01:05 PM

I know that every year they have serious roster issues that never get resolved. The only difference is that this year, Team Builder allowed those mistakes to get caught early. From all of the comments about it I would bet that this years issues are far worse than previous years as well. That is too bad.

I am a diehard Oregon fan and never pay too much attention to other teams rosters. That said I do know that every year there are some glaring mistakes on the Oregon rosters. Either number related or players completely missing. I can understand the numbers being incorrect since those change right up to the start of the season, but missing key players can be very frustrating.

Given EA's track record for post release support of their sports franchises we all know that once the game is out very little will be done. Maybe one patch and that will be it. Please prove all of us wrong EA.

# 378 Bnckeye27 @ 06/12/09 01:44 PM

accurate rosters are the backbone of the reality-nature of "sim" games. I really hope they get this fixed. I've been so excited for this game - I predicted something would come along to ruin that.

# 379 StormJH1 @ 06/12/09 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bnckeye27


	accurate rosters are the backbone of the reality-nature of "sim" games. I really hope they get this fixed. I've been so excited for this game - I predicted something would come along to ruin that.

There has to be some irony somewhere in the fact that all the NCAA rubes on this board are pissed at EA for not doing something (making fully accurate depictions of current collegiate football players) that would be legally impermissible for them to actually do. NCAA does not have rosters the way that Madden has rosters. Up until the they included the roster share feature (and probably even now), the vast majority of gamers play this game with the "QB #12" system or with fake generated names.

The community is going to make its own roster changes anyway. I'd like it if the developers at least got us close, but I'm much more worried about how the gameplay turns out than something like this.

# 380 yanek27 @ 06/12/09 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by leetdemon


	its not the fact that the community can change them, its the fact that you cant use your fixed rosters online. so people like myself who love to hop online and play with my favorite team get shafted.

Agreed but so many people are like get rid of this or that to fix the rosters. I'm dishin out 64 dollars (includes tax) I want the game that was intended to be released. I don't think its fair to the consumer we get rid of a few features to fix a problem they caused in the first place. Its simple, fix the glitch and if it causes the release to wait another couple of weeks so be it, but if I wanted an updated Roster of 2010 then I'll go buy NCAA 09 and update it myself. People should stop settling for less to get something that should be in the game in the first place.

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