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Hey guys... so we are aware of the issue with no (or few) freshmen on some teams in TeamBuilder and yes the same issues are found on the NCAA 10 disc. Over the past few days, one of our top priorities has been investigating solutions.

The TeamBuilder teams require some data on the disc to set Depth Charts for every team created before they can be used in a game. For example if you use the Cupcake roster as a starting point, NCAA 10 will give you a default Depth Chart for the Cupcakes for your TeamBuilder team (which you can edit in game). This means any changes we make could cause some problems with teams already created using TeamBuilder. So we need to ensure we are taking to proper steps to correct the issues.

We understand the concerns with how this can affect Dynasty mode and Online Games, so we are working hard to have a solution in place before launch on July 14th.

-Russ

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# 1 Deegeezy @ 06/10/09 06:16 PM
I would think accurate rosters on the disc should take priority over anything done on the teambuilder site ultimately just based on the # of consumers likely to NOT use teambuilder. Even if ultimately teambuilder needs to be canned for a year.

Just my $0.02.
 
# 2 baumy300 @ 06/10/09 06:16 PM
As long as we can edit rosters, none of this is a big deal.

I doubt really any people on here play with "QB #15" the entire time and avoid downloading the great rosters that some people work so hard to make.
 
# 3 adembroski @ 06/10/09 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by baumy300
As long as we can edit rosters, none of this is a big deal.

I doubt really any people on here play with "QB #15" the entire time and avoid downloading the great rosters that some people work so hard to make.
It's not an issue as long as they allow everything to be edited. But there are things in the roster that aren't editable from what I remember.
 
# 4 dawgs18 @ 06/10/09 06:22 PM
Weird how some things so big like this are overlooked. They have a roster guy and they made the game with this fault? NCAA needs to pick it up a notch. $59.99 for a game that lacks such an obvious element to the game is unacceptable. How about the people that won't or can't use TB? They have to pay for a game that lacks the appropriate rosters?

Hopefully this will be corrected. C'mon, NCAA team!
 
# 5 J-Unit40 @ 06/10/09 06:23 PM
Thanks for coming in an giving us an update Russ. Please come up with something for the July 14 launch.

Thankfully I don't play random cheeseheads on-line.

The roster community is really going to have to pull off some magic to get this to work well.
 
# 6 BBkobe87 @ 06/10/09 06:23 PM
Wow some people just dont understand... This is a bigger issue than just missing some freshmen on certain teams. The ratings for nearly every team are way off as well! I know Iowa and Mich st. are screwed up beyond belief. Anyone hoping to buy this game to play online should give a real hard thought against it. How can I ever play with MSU when the best player on the team (Greg Jones) a top 10 defensive big ten player is a 78 overall!!! (he has the same ratings as last year), this is just plain laziness by the new roster guy as far as I can see. This isn't going to be as easy as people think either, as far as putting out new more accurate rosters, this could take a couple months if its done right! These rosters are messed up that bad. Why dont some of you understand this? Biggest disappointment in NCAA 10 this year has to be the rosters if you ask me
 
# 7 J-Unit40 @ 06/10/09 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdmo9999
Dude, you don't get it. Online players have to deal with this. Not to mention it will take weeks to fix this mess, even for the best roster guys
I believe he is referring to EA. Not us.
 
# 8 Sublime12089 @ 06/10/09 06:25 PM
I appreciate the response but dont understand how it happened in the first place it has never been an issue in past years, so what happened. Also are you aware of the players who seemingly dont exist and graduated players still there? Not to mention the insane ratings, 18 or 19 90+ players on certain teams. Also Can you comment if this has anything to do with the Keller lawsuit.

I would take playable rosters over TB personally. And I hate to say it but if these rosters stay Im gonna have to cancel my preorder and endure through NCAA 09 for another year.

A
 
# 9 Deegeezy @ 06/10/09 06:26 PM
This crap probably ruins two games for me (and many others) since now my Madden draft classes will be even more jacked up now than they normally were.
 
# 10 CKW11 @ 06/10/09 06:26 PM
So if EA is sending us the game half way done how about a price cut?
 
# 11 ActLikeYouCrow @ 06/10/09 06:26 PM
its appreciated that you guys are working to try and correct. in retrospect the teambuilder site should have been held off until the disc rosters were done completely.
the rosters are obviously a huge undertaking, i like some of the logic the new roster guy used in changing ratings and creating players from scratch that werent on the game last year, but there is a big list of players that didnt have anything changed so noone ever got around to editing them. this should have taken precedence over teambuilder.

not the everything is going to be okay answer we were hoping for, but thanx for addressing it and giving it to us straight, hope for the best i guess. i specifically want to point out that for south carolina, there are guys who werent on the game last year who and some freshmen are on the tb site as well, but only one player who was on the game last year got any editing at all.
thats like 1 out of 50 players probably. the most egregious mistake is a 40 ovr fs, who was a 5 star db in high school who has been on the game since ncaa 08 and never was given any defensive attributes on the game.

from my perspective that ruins regular online play even more than not having freshmen.
 
# 12 LucianoJJ @ 06/10/09 06:29 PM
Thanks for the update, Russ. I'd rather see the game ship on time, and get a roster patch, than have to wait for ratings to be tweaked and freshman players to be created.
 
# 13 Solidice @ 06/10/09 06:32 PM
so Texas Tech will only have 58 total players on NCAA 10?

a lot of work ahead of me to get that corrected. luckily I don't really play online except OD, and you can use edited roster for OD.
 
# 14 therizing02 @ 06/10/09 06:33 PM
And there it is. I was waiting for the major problem to come out sooner or later and here it is.

For the THIRD YEAR IN A ROW a major issue has slipped through the cracks! Once again, some cool new features are added to the game, but something else gets screwed in a major way. I hope the dev team never has to wonder why there is so much doubt every year.

At least this year it came out before the game is released. Hopefully it can be fixed prior to release.

Unbelievable.
 
# 15 coogrfan @ 06/10/09 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Russell_Kiniry_EA
Hey guys... so we are aware of the issue with no (or few) freshmen on some teams in TeamBuilder and yes the same issues are found on the NCAA 10 disc. Over the past few days, one of our top priorities has been investigating solutions.

The TeamBuilder teams require some data on the disc to set Depth Charts for every team created before they can be used in a game. For example if you use the Cupcake roster as a starting point, NCAA 10 will give you a default Depth Chart for the Cupcakes for your TeamBuilder team (which you can edit in game). This means any changes we make could cause some problems with teams already created using TeamBuilder. So we need to ensure we are taking to proper steps to correct the issues.

We understand the concerns with how this can affect Dynasty mode and Online Games, so we are working hard to have a solution in place before launch on July 14th.

-Russ
Thanks for the info. We all appreciate your taking the time to let us know the story.

Having said that, I'm a little confused by this answer. Most would agree that the main issue with the teambuilder rosters isn't the lack of freshmen. It's the number of players who either shouldn't be there (because they graduated after last season, transferred, etc.) or the ones who should be present but are not.

To give a few specific examples of what I'm talking about, take a look at the TB roster for Houston. RE #53 and LT #74 should be gone, while starting HB #25 (last year's C-USA Frosh of the year) is nowhere to be found.

Will this still be the case if I look at the default rosters on the actual game disc a month from now? If so, why?
 
# 16 Drocks @ 06/10/09 06:43 PM
Yeah........I'd advise ya'll to figure out a solution (fix the rosters) to this before people lose their minds lol. I mean, I'm just speaking from if I were in your (EA NCAA 10 dev team) position. This is a grand opportunity to really implement that whole community interaction thing lol.
 
# 17 OMT @ 06/10/09 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by coogrfan
Thanks for the info. We all appreciate your taking the time to let us know the story.

Having said that, I'm a little confused by this answer. Most would agree that the main issue with the teambuilder rosters isn't the lack of freshmen. It's the number of players who either shouldn't be there (because they graduated after last season, transferred, etc.) or the ones who should be present but are not.

To give a few specific examples of what I'm talking about, take a look at the TB roster for Houston. RE #53 and LT #74 should be gone, while starting HB #25 (last year's C-USA Frosh of the year) is nowhere to be found.

Will this still be the case if I look at the default rosters on the actual game disc a month from now? If so, why?
We aren't sure of what happened yet, but we didn't want to continue leaving you guys in the dark on what is going on. Our efforts now are on remedying the situation the best we can.
 
# 18 Russell_Kiniry_EA @ 06/10/09 06:45 PM
We cannot comment on any ongoing lawsuit.

And no it is not an ideal situation... I wanted to come on here and say we already have a solution in place; but it's taking longer to figure everything out then we expected.

Right now we are exploring every angle to get this addressed before release.
 
# 19 sportzbro @ 06/10/09 06:45 PM
Thanks Russ for at least giving us an update.

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Originally Posted by chia51
WOW.... thanks for answering... but WOW... how can supposedly a "NEW badass roster guy" let this get by him?


Here is to the community in coming up with a playable roster
1. My thoughts exactly. A screw up of this magnitude (especially when it is your sole task for the year) would get someone fired anywhere else.

2. Us coming up with good rosters.. what would be new really?

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Originally Posted by CKW11
So if EA is sending us the game half way done how about a price cut?
No, because Season Showdown easily makes up for it. But seriously, the rosters are in shambles right now. As someone mentioned earlier, Iowa's roster is pathetic.. Please fix this issue.
 
# 20 Palo20 @ 06/10/09 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam_Thompson_EA
We aren't sure of what happened yet, but we didn't want to continue leaving you guys in the dark on what is going on. It looks like the wrong version of the rosters made the final build, but we don't know for sure yet. Our efforts now are on remedying the situation the best we can.
I think that makes me feel better....how about fixing the rosters and just starting TB over?
 

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