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Joystiq has posted another Madden NFL 10 article, this one titled Madden 10: Did EA press reset?

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"Frazier, Cummings and the rest of the staff are frustrated by the repetitive criticisms lobbed at Madden. Frazier vehemently defended the integrity of this team, if not the integrity of EA Sports' exclusive right to use NFL licenses. "We found out about it the same day everyone else did," Frazier said of the deal. "I get that concern." But Frazier was quick to point out that EA has invested more money in Madden this year than any previous year, suggesting that at no level in the company is there a push to ease back on development initiative in the wake of diminished competition. "EA isn't trying to get lazy with this franchise," Frazier insisted. EA isn't trying to get overly ambitious either."

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# 61 SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL @ 05/29/09 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tjizzle
lol I find it funny when people try to speak for the developers. Ian has already said that two minute clip is highly indicative of the final product in another thread, so i really don't understand you trying to shoot down another mans opinion. Especially when a developer has confirmed his thoughts. Anyway I think the video looked good, it did still look a lot like 09, but i seen many things that have been improved, enough for me to purchase it when it is released.
excuses excuses, that's all hear every time the game looks sub par.

when the trailer came out in disappointed it was "that's not the trailer they wanted to show" now the new excuse is "the build was weeks ago with pro tek turned off"(which is a stupid thing to release giving people ammo to call out the game)quit frankly I'm sick of the excuses, you people want take my word for it I'll let the mediocrity of madden 10 speak for me and itself.
 
# 62 THUG-Z @ 05/29/09 04:07 PM
I read the article and saw absolutely nothing wrong with it. When there was competition in the market, Madden was a good game and felt like it was heading toward something amazing. That was last gen when Madden 04 and 05 were out. However, once all the competition vanished due to an exclusive right, Madden has been horrible, starting with the next gen consoles, Madden 06-09.

I'm not saying Madden 10 will be horrible because I've seen some good things and some things that still look the same -- and should be fixed by now. All in all, the Madden series for the current gen consoles have disappointed BIG TIME.

Maybe MADDEN will get back to its roots when the next gen console come out, perhaps in 2012 or whenever they do. I think Madden needs a COMPLETE OVERHAUL for the next gen consoles.
 
# 63 kjcheezhead @ 05/29/09 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
Ian also stated that Pro-Tak wasn't available in that build and that the game already looks outdated to him due to the adjustments that have taken place since that video has been captured.


Is protak responsible for wr/db jostling? If it is than this vid is missing 2 major components to the final game imo. That jostling is supposed to help level the playing field so slower but talented dbs can cover a fast wr who is otherwise below avg. Why would ea release this as the first gameplay footage if it is missing such crucial pieces?
 
# 64 countryboy @ 05/29/09 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead
Is protak responsible for wr/db jostling?
I think it is, but don't hold me to that. I know that its used in the new OL/DL interaction.
 
# 65 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL
now the new excuse is "the build was weeks ago with pro tek turned off"(which is a stupid thing to release giving people ammo to call out the game)quit frankly I'm sick of the excuses, you people want take my word for it I'll let the mediocrity of madden 10 speak for me and itself.
How is it an excuse when that's what Ian has said?

Also, judging by your post history, you were never that interested in the game to begin with so I don't see what you were expecting with this vid...
 
# 66 Brandon_c993 @ 05/29/09 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
How is it an excuse when that's what Ian has said?
because with these types of people if you present a fact it is an excuse or a rumor, then they present their opinion and it is fact, there is no arguing against their "facts"...
 
# 67 tjizzle @ 05/29/09 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead
Is protak responsible for wr/db jostling? If it is than this vid is missing 2 major components to the final game imo. That jostling is supposed to help level the playing field so slower but talented dbs can cover a fast wr who is otherwise below avg. Why would ea release this as the first gameplay footage if it is missing such crucial pieces?
Exactly, I agree with you 100%. As i said i like the video, but there are some flaws in it. I believe the final game will look like this or very similar to it, for me that's not a terrible thing because i liked 09, however i can see why the people that did not are and will be upset.
 
# 68 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon_c993
because with these types of people if you present a fact it is an excuse or a rumor, then they present their opinion and it is fact, there is no arguing against their "facts"...
lol I know how the game works...

if you present something true that goes against what they say, it's an "excuse".

But yeah... no need to continue talking to him. Judging by his post history, he's nothing but a typical "basher".
 
# 69 Brandon_c993 @ 05/29/09 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead
Is protak responsible for wr/db jostling?
I am pretty sure it is, but I could be wrong....it's happened before
 
# 70 Brandon_c993 @ 05/29/09 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
lol I know how the game works...

if you present something true that goes against what they say, it's an "excuse".

But yeah... no need to continue talking to him. Judging by his post history, he's nothing but a typical "basher".
Agreed>>>
 
# 71 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tjizzle
Exactly, I agree with you 100%. As i said i like the video, but there are some flaws in it. I believe the final game will look like this or very similar to it, for me that's not a terrible thing because i liked 09, however i can see why the people that did not are and will be upset.
Yeah everyone agrees that there are flaws in the vid.

Also again, the vid is on pro, and Ian many of times has said that the sim changes will be much more noticeable on all-pro/all-madden so that they wont alienate the casual fans. With that, the fact that the vid was cut a lot, and the fact that the game is being worked on, I'm pretty sure that the game will look better when we get it in our hands on realese day and play it on the higher diffiuculty levels.
 
# 72 texbuk84 @ 05/29/09 04:22 PM
joystiq post an opinion EA get mad like we the consumers haven't waisted $300 over the last 5 yrs on Madden football games only to have the same results yr in and yr out. This is not Ian fault by no means( he is new to this so I don't hold him accountable at all and madden 09 was a good game), but what do you expect. If I keep treating my wife like crap, eventually she will get tired and want me to change or she's leaving its as simple as that. EA new developement crew have made great strides towards making madden a great game, maybe some people don't see it that way and their opinion is valid in that manner.

We need this this yr, not this
 
# 73 kjcheezhead @ 05/29/09 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tjizzle
Exactly, I agree with you 100%. As i said i like the video, but there are some flaws in it. I believe the final game will look like this or very similar to it, for me that's not a terrible thing because i liked 09, however i can see why the people that did not are and will be upset.
I personally did not like 09 very much. Im not a 2k5 fanboy-Madden ps2 was my style. I just think its was crazy for EA to release a vid without its biggest changes to gameplay. Given EAs history of exaggerating its features, I can see why alot of people have suddenly got very skeptical again. This joystiq interview has done nothing to calm my nerves either.
 
# 74 tjizzle @ 05/29/09 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
How is it an excuse when that's what Ian has said?

Also, judging by your post history, you were never that interested in the game to begin with so I don't see what you were expecting with this vid...
Personally, I don't care who it came from, but saying it is an early build is pretty much an excuse, in my opinion. Simply because the community day guys said that the game looked better when they played the game, to me it was EA's responsibility to release the best and most up to date video. Especially since it was the first video being released and more importantly all the anticipation that was created the months and weeks leading up to it.

Why create a world premiere video with a dated version of the game when they are more than capable of producing video with the most recent version of the it, considering the unlimited access that they have to the game.

Like I said I'm not dissapointed, I liked what I seen and I will be buying madden 10 in August, however I more than understand some peoples frustration with this game and whats been shown thus far.
 
# 75 SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL @ 05/29/09 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
How is it an excuse when that's what Ian has said?

Also, judging by your post history, you were never that interested in the game to begin with so I don't see what you were expecting with this vid...
Here a question, why release old footage with pro tec turned off? that's makes no since what so ever. so please, the excuses are getting old. this game well not improve to much point blink until they redo this whole engine. sorry if you cant take me being real. but I guess the truth hurts. my history is justify by the history of Madden so called "Next Gen" being the crap that it is.
 
# 76 tjizzle @ 05/29/09 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
Yeah everyone agrees that there are flaws in the vid.

Also again, the vid is on pro, and Ian many of times has said that the sim changes will be much more noticeable on all-pro/all-madden so that they wont alienate the casual fans. With that, the fact that the vid was cut a lot, and the fact that the game is being worked on, I'm pretty sure that the game will look better when we get it in our hands on realese day and play it on the higher diffiuculty levels.

When did any developer say the new ign video was on pro?
 
# 77 SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL @ 05/29/09 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
Oh irony...why must you be so cruel.
same reason you ride EA d!ck thank about it
 
# 78 tjizzle @ 05/29/09 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL
same reason you ride EA d!ck thank about it
LOL
 
# 79 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tjizzle
Personally, I don't care who it came from, but saying it is an early build is pretty much an excuse, in my opinion. Simply because the community day guys said that the game looked better when they played the game, to me it was EA's responsibility to release the best and most up to date video. Especially since it was the first video being released and more importantly all the anticipation that was created the months and weeks leading up to it.

Why create a world premiere video with a dated version of the game when they are more than capable of producing video with the most recent version of the it, considering the unlimited access that they have to the game.

Like I said I'm not dissapointed, I liked what I seen and I will be buying madden 10 in August, however I more than understand some peoples frustration with this game and whats been shown thus far.
You gotta realize though that Ian doesn't decide what vids gets released. The PR team does.

Ian has basically gave his distastes for the PR team playing the game on rookie and pro many of times in previous threads that were about trailers.

Again, saying it is an early build isn't an excuse in terms of talking about how the final game will be since they are still working on it and fixing issues.

Also, this year there will be a big difference between rookie/pro and all-pro/all-madden. Differences in pressure, drop back, adaptive AI, etc. The differences are more than they have ever been. Like if you don't play the game on rookie/pro, I don't see how one could 100% fully judge the game on the vids (that are on pro) after every thing that has been said in terms of these differences.
 
# 80 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tjizzle
When did any developer say the new ign video was on pro?
On his twitter.

"yep, known. No pro-tak steering in the build for that video. But pro mode's pocket will be 'slightly' exaggerated in final..."
 


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