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Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

05:26 PM - May 28, 2009 by Brnto4life

Joystiq has posted another Madden NFL 10 article, this one titled Madden 10: Did EA press reset?

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	"Frazier, Cummings and the rest of the staff are frustrated by the repetitive criticisms lobbed at Madden. Frazier vehemently defended the integrity of this team, if not the integrity of EA Sports' exclusive right to use NFL licenses. "We found out about it the same day everyone else did," Frazier said of the deal. "I get that concern." But Frazier was quick to point out that EA has invested more money in Madden this year than any previous year, suggesting that at no level in the company is there a push to ease back on development initiative in the wake of diminished competition. "EA isn't trying to get lazy with this franchise," Frazier insisted. EA isn't trying to get overly ambitious either."

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# 21 mars85042 @ 05/28/09 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thudias


	what if Madden 10 is a great game. What kind of article would be written by joystick then?

They would have to eat there words!

# 22 coogrfan @ 05/28/09 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Derrville


	Seems like a bunch of yall are butt hurt the site doesnt kiss M10s *.

If people are ticked off, it's because the joystiq preview (and today's feeble attempt to correct the record) are examples of extremely poor journalism.

The author of a preview piece has two jobs: one, get the facts straight; and two, tell the reader what the game is, not what he would like it to be.

The author failed miserably on both counts; not once, but twice. It's painfully obvious he would far rather be writing about something, anything other than a sports title. Both pieces were a near total waste of bandwidth.

# 23 MattIntellect @ 05/28/09 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	Seems like someone beat me to the punch in posting this. Mods can lock this if they want...

You guys posted it at nearly the same time.

# 24 ewto16 @ 05/28/09 07:42 PM

I guess I must be the only person that likes and reads Joystiq daily. They don't get paid for their previews and receive no special favors or compensation for events. They give away all the swag that they get in an effort to stay independant.

They don't go to community preview events if the company pays for them. They pay their own way, so that they can stay objective.

Personally, I found the preview to be refreshing in that it seemed to be written from a pretty realistic perspective of what a casual person probably thinks about the Madden franchise. The last 3-4 years haven't brought any innovation to Madden, and if you played 07 and then played 09, you wouldn't really notice anything that different.

Most of you just seem angry that it isn't another jock riding preview piece on how great EA and Ian are. Ian has been great for the Madden community and his level of interaction with the community is unmatched, but he has yet to make a decent game of Madden. Only 8 people on here have played Madden 10, yet you all already appoint him the chosen one and this the best Madden ever.

I've been fooled by marketing, glowing previews, and reviews time and time again. I'm glad Joystiq took a different approach to previewing the game.

# 25 MattIntellect @ 05/28/09 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by black mamba205


	That article didn't really do anything for me. Anyone read that comment by that Captain Planet guy on their comment section? He pretty much says he's a cheeser and it's the right way to play madden.

I'd like to call that guy a dummy, but I won't. Most of Joystiq's fan base is people like him. From that comment, he'd rather find exploits/glitches in the game and use that against others (cheating) rather than play fair and play a realistic simulation of football. He's ruining the Madden name, because from what I know, Madden is the face of the NFL (Even though he's retired) and the video game should mimic that into the game.

# 26 jWILL253 @ 05/28/09 08:05 PM

I don't mind the article. They are speaking on their opinion. I mean, sure, they stated false info in the first article, but who hasn't?

However, I don't like the fact that even though they took the time to correct the info, they still took time to dog EA, like they did on the first article.

And Madden Team Play Online actually sounds like a good idea. Imagine a Be A Pro online mode where there are 11 users on one side of the ball of one team, each one controlling a single player. Those users are playing the other 11 users on the other team, and it would emphasize teamwork. It would be like the Call of Duty 4 online for football...

# 27 MattIntellect @ 05/28/09 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ewto16


	I guess I must be the only person that likes and reads Joystiq daily. They don't get paid for their previews and receive no special favors or compensation for events. They give away all the swag that they get in an effort to stay independant. They don't go to community preview events if the company pays for them. They pay their own way, so that they can stay objective. Personally, I found the preview to be refreshing in that it seemed to be written from a pretty realistic perspective of what a casual person probably thinks about the Madden franchise. The last 3-4 years haven't brought any innovation to Madden, and if you played 07 and then played 09, you wouldn't really notice anything that different. Most of you just seem angry that it isn't another jock riding preview piece on how great EA and Ian are. Ian has been great for the Madden community and his level of interaction with the community is unmatched, but he has yet to make a decent game of Madden. Only 8 people on here have played Madden 10, yet you all already appoint him the chosen one and this the best Madden ever. I've been fooled by marketing, glowing previews, and reviews time and time again. I'm glad Joystiq took a different approach to previewing the game.

This is Ian Cumming's first time being lead designer for Madden NFL and Phil Frazier's first full year as senior producer for Madden NFL. Give these guys a chance. Last year Madden made a big leap from Madden 08 to Madden 09 and this year looks even more promising.

# 28 TreyIM2 @ 05/28/09 08:06 PM

I posted on that article on Joystiq, this morning, way before it hit this site and to me, dude came off like a child with a bunch of bias. Not objective writing, at all but very hateful. I understand that the game is not even out yet but the clips and such that I have seen shows a BUNCH of improvements, thus far, and all we need is a final product to pull it all together.
I think that "writer" should gave a balance of positives and negatives. He stayed more on the negative side and was so blinded by his own bias that his initial report was inaccurate on what the new Madden was going to have in it. Terrible writing for a website like that.

# 29 Sauk @ 05/28/09 08:08 PM

Interesting article. It seems that some of you got your feelings hurt by a non brown nosing article. It is refreshing to see someone in the industry actually criticize a game instead of calling it the best ever like others have the last 4 years (when in reality it has sucked).

It seems the Madden team also got their feelings hurt.

Oh well, solid article if you ask me.

# 30 Sauk @ 05/28/09 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MattIntellect


	This is Ian Cumming's first time being lead designer for Madden NFL and Phil Frazier's first full year as senior producer for Madden NFL. Give these guys a chance. Last year Madden made a big leap from Madden 08 to Madden 09 and this year looks even more promising.

You must have been playing a different madden then me lol

# 31 TheWatcher @ 05/28/09 08:12 PM

The fact that they made it a huge point to express "disappointment" for not having a team-play "Madden Online" mode is laughable. Yeah, THAT'S what's been holding Madden back from greatness all these years ... a mode that's going to take hell and high water to get everyone situated in one place at the same time to play out fully.

This is but one reason why I don't take the mags seriously. Ever since they all praised Madden 08--one of the crappiest football games ever made--I was done.

# 32 MattIntellect @ 05/28/09 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauk


	You must have been playing a different madden then me lol

You can't tell me that Madden 09 played like Madden 08. You can't.

# 33 Moegames @ 05/28/09 08:32 PM

im sorta just baffled by some of the replies here... last fall 75% of the posters in here were bashing madden 09 for its bugs and flaws and lack of advancement each year..and rightfully so, i was pretty pissed myself after noticing that bug filled piece of *&$^&*

But as someone else replied in here and said..some of you guys suddenly seem to have short patients for any negativity towards the series.. why? ..thats silly and dont be hypocrites

Personally... Madden needs this kind of criticism because if there weren't any...things would keep going the way there were. I have a good feeling Madden 2010 will be THAT GAME we been waiting for and i feel part of this is because of us in here nagging and harping to the dev's in here that post and read our input...

You know, in college.. my professor once told me that the weakest link in any business or company are the people that get all pissy when a customer complains about their lackluster product..i just hope that there arent any of this BS attitude in the developers at Tiburon....because that **** spreads like cancer and before you know it..the entire team will be affected by such crap attitudes...

Im VERY happy that Ian is lead developer now..i just feel he has that vision we been needing in Madden and from the looks of it..Madden is making its biggest leap forward in positive ways in a VERY long time...

Constructive Criticism is healthy for a product, unhappy customers "can" be healthy for a product..just as long as the people behind the product dont let their feathers get all ruffled up because people are unhappy with their lackluster product...its what you do from that point on that counts...

I look at Madden 2010 as a "new" beginning and i have high hopes for it this year regardless of the last 4 crap maddens...

By the way..the article on madden was spot on

# 34 kjcheezhead @ 05/28/09 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MattIntellect


	You can't tell me that Madden 09 played like Madden 08. You can't.

I would agree with him. On PS 3, Madden 08 is about a 1.5 while Madden 09 is about a 2.0. This team needs to get all the features and realistic play that the PS2 had before anything else. If they do that and this protak works out, then Madden 10 could still be an 8 or higher, but we just dont know yet.

# 35 TreyIM2 @ 05/28/09 08:57 PM

New in-game Madden footage - http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14270630/madden-nfl-2010/videos/madden10_trl_eaglescowboys552709.html

# 36 roadman @ 05/28/09 09:04 PM

Nothing in this article surprises me.

Glad I don't put any stock on critics making decisions on my purchases.

# 37 countryboy @ 05/28/09 09:06 PM

another article and another one man's opinion.

# 38 TreyIM2 @ 05/28/09 09:09 PM

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/987/987698p1.html

# 39 marcoyk @ 05/28/09 09:36 PM

that article doesn't mean much to me. thanks for that link!! the game is looking gooooood!!

# 40 Bgamer90 @ 05/28/09 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Moegames


	im sorta just baffled by some of the replies here... last fall 75% of the posters in here were bashing madden 09 for its bugs and flaws and lack of advancement each year..and rightfully so, i was pretty pissed myself after noticing that bug filled piece of &$^& But as someone else replied in here and said..some of you guys suddenly seem to have short patients for any negativity towards the series.. why? ..thats silly and dont be hypocrites Personally... Madden needs this kind of criticism because if there weren't any...things would keep going the way there were. I have a good feeling Madden 2010 will be THAT GAME we been waiting for and i feel part of this is because of us in here nagging and harping to the dev's in here that post and read our input... You know, in college.. my professor once told me that the weakest link in any business or company are the people that get all pissy when a customer complains about their lackluster product..i just hope that there arent any of this BS attitude in the developers at Tiburon....because that **** spreads like cancer and before you know it..the entire team will be affected by such crap attitudes... Im VERY happy that Ian is lead developer now..i just feel he has that vision we been needing in Madden and from the looks of it..Madden is making its biggest leap forward in positive ways in a VERY long time... Constructive Criticism is healthy for a product, unhappy customers "can" be healthy for a product..just as long as the people behind the product dont let their feathers get all ruffled up because people are unhappy with their lackluster product...its what you do from that point on that counts... I look at Madden 2010 as a "new" beginning and i have high hopes for it this year regardless of the last 4 crap maddens... By the way..the article on madden was spot on

Okay here's the thing. I'm expecting an article about madden 10. You know I'm all good with constructive feedback, but honestly, nothing in the article (or the previous one) talked about madden 10. It talked about the madden series as it has been this gen. That in itself, IMO, is a waste. We all know the features that have been added, etc. Like really, I don't get how anyone could say that those were good articles and that Joystiq did a good job when they had to correct the things that they said about the game.

I'm all for constructive feedback and there has been that in just about each and every preview of the game. It's just that what I don't like is how are you going to supposedly give a preview of Madden 10 but just completley disregard the game, get facts about the features wrong, and then talk about why you aren't interested in madden and why the EA/NFL monopoly is bad.

Like that isn't a preview of the game in any way really.

I know I'm being defensive but I just don't like it when people call others "negativity haters" for not liking an article when the article doesn't really talk anything about the game and even gets some things wrong about the game. How in the world does that make for a good article?

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Originally Posted by ewto16


	and if you played 07 and then played 09, you wouldn't really notice anything that different.

Even if they weren't that great, there was still a difference between them (at least imo).

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	Most of you just seem angry that it isn't another jock riding preview piece on how great EA and Ian are. Ian has been great for the Madden community and his level of interaction with the community is unmatched, but he has yet to make a decent game of Madden. Only 8 people on here have played Madden 10, yet you all already appoint him the chosen one and this the best Madden ever. I've been fooled by marketing, glowing previews, and reviews time and time again. I'm glad Joystiq took a different approach to previewing the game.

lol and here's another thing...

for the ones saying how "great" the article is, why do you guys feel that all the other previews of the game "brown nosed" EA/Ian?
Like are you guys looking for that one article to back your ideas that madden 10 will truly be no different from the past ones or are you being really serious because really, each and every preview has said something wrong with the game in some way(s).

So a preview that has false information about the game, talks about none of the writer's impressions of the game, and focuses more on how madden has been in the past instead of how the game will be is a different approach to previewing a game?

So not doing something you were sent out to do is a different approach to what you were suppose to do?

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