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Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

04:19 PM - May 7, 2009 by RaychelSnr

MLB 09: The Show has been out for over a month, and many baseball gaming enthusiasts have hailed the game as the best baseball video game ever. As a baseball elitist myself, there is no denying that the game is extremely impressive.

It has been five solid years since I have enjoyed a baseball game as much as this year's iteration of The Show. Because of this enjoyment level, I have found myself glued to my PS3 cultivating my Road to the Show career and running a somewhat successful Detroit Tigers dynasty.

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# 101 NumberOneRB @ 05/08/09 07:04 PM

It appears many are very critical of the Batter's Eye feature in MVP, and in many ways I can understand your issues. The one thing I think many are exaggerating a bit is the "flash" of the color around the ball as it was being pitched. We're not talking some super bright, "halofication" (I made it up, haha) of the ball here.

The ring of color around the ball was very subtle, just enough for you to be able to determine the color, and (like real life) there were pitchers in the game who were able to "hide" the ball well, thus eliminating the ability to pick up the color of the pitch.

I thought it was a pretty good, although quite basic, way of imitating a real-life batter's ability to pick up the seams of the ball on pitchers who didn't hide the ball well, thus allowing them to determine the pitch type for an added hitting advantage.

It appears that some of you got a bit off topic when beginning the debate about which game had the best pitching mechanics, but to go along with that, in my opinion, I think the Show's pitchin mechanic is the best and ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE. I don't know how someone could make an argument for a pitching mechanic which isn't based on taking the pitch break into account.

# 102 jpup @ 05/08/09 07:09 PM

This thread is still open?

Again, why is there an MVP thread in The Show's forum? It makes no sense.

# 103 thdudeabides @ 05/08/09 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jpup


	This thread is still open? Again, why is there an MVP thread in The Show's forum? It makes no sense.

Then why continue to post in it?

# 104 jpup @ 05/08/09 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thdudeabides


	Then why continue to post in it?

to annoy you.

# 105 NumberOneRB @ 05/08/09 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jpup


	This thread is still open? Again, why is there an MVP thread in The Show's forum? It makes no sense.

Its based off an article that involves possible improvements that could be made to the Show. Give it a rest its a discussion forum. You sound like a married man threatened by the appearance of a good looking, single bachelor. Just remember, she chose you...haha.

# 106 rudyjuly2 @ 05/08/09 07:50 PM

The base running in the Show, primarily the inability to have an in between level where the cpu makes basic decisions but I can still control the base runners is still missing. I loved that aspect of MVP.

# 107 thdudeabides @ 05/08/09 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jim416


	I think what he's saying is, if the title of the thread was "3 things MLB2k does better than The Show", or "3 Things The Show does better than MLB2k" was posted in the 2k forums it wouldn't be allowed. This might have been better posted in the MVP forums, but, just a thought. Many people will read only the first post, miss what the dev said correcting an error in the original posters post, and then this thread will have a life longer than the Patch Thread, lol. But..............post away, lol.

I'm new here and I just assumed since this thread is posted on the main OS page as a full blown article, that OS placed the thread in the SCEA form. If that's that case I didn't understand why anyone would be so worked up about it being open. I still don't but I guess you have a point.

# 108 bxgoods @ 05/08/09 08:18 PM

MVP Had the best franchise mode out of any sports game to date.
Thats the main reason I can't get into the show, their franchise mode is boring.
MVP, had mini games abust to improve your pitching and batting prospect.
And my favorite part was owner mode, where you actually used the money you earned from tickets to add accessories and improvements to your stadium. ANd you would actually see them in the stadium, it greatly affected how your stadium looked.
Unlike in Madden, when you bought a 40 inch scoreboard, and can't seee it on gameday. You would see everything on gameday in MVP. You could even build restaurants in the upper deck. It was beautiful.
I'm upset no other sports franchise has copied this idea yet.

But the bad side of MVP, it was too easy to hit........... Once you learned the trick of where to wait for a pitch and hold diagonal up-left or diagonal up-right.... it was over. You would jack a HR every at bat, no matter what difficulty.

# 109 Artman22 @ 05/08/09 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubfan


	The fielding was redone. They take better angles to the ball. Anyway The Show has out done MVP baseball. MVP was to arcade like and MLB The Show is the real thing.

Sorry, I disagree. The show needs work on the fielding. The meter is useless and everything is animation based so the user has less control over a situations. In the show they still delay throws that should be fast. Collision detection, Broken double plays, fielding errors are almost non-existant, Etc. MVP has better fielding, Franchise mode, hitting and more hit variations. The show has great presentation, graphics, pitching, and smooth gameplay. I feel that fielding is one of the shows weakest points.

# 110 snugglyirishman @ 05/08/09 10:51 PM

I don't even try to play my RTTS players that are position players because the hitting is so frustrating. I want my RTTS player to be able to hit for average and power but that never happens when I strike out on breaking balls down and away because they look like fastballs down the pipe.

# 111 mmorg @ 05/08/09 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snugglyirishman


	I don't even try to play my RTTS players that are position players because the hitting is so frustrating. I want my RTTS player to be able to hit for average and power but that never happens when I strike out on breaking balls down and away because they look like fastballs down the pipe.

Oh is this because you don't have the hitter's eye gimmick to make hitting a cakewalk for you? Learn to read the pitch and how to work counts then complain about hitting in The Show.

It seems to me the people who complain about MVP being better than The Show are people who only played little league and want to hit a home run every at-bat.

# 112 snugglyirishman @ 05/09/09 01:57 AM

Wow lots of pent up anger to actually go on a forum and insult someone? I was seconding the statement in the article about the lack of perception not that i wanted to hit a homerun every at bat...

# 113 GlennN @ 05/09/09 09:51 AM

Actually, for me, baseball in a videogame ended with the height of the High Heat Baseball series, 2002. I still play that on my PC. I have tried MVP 05 on my Xbox, MLB 2k8 on my 360 and MLB 09 on my PSP, but I always find myself going back to HH2k2 on my PC.

# 114 SoxChamp @ 05/09/09 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennN


	Actually, for me, baseball in a videogame ended with the height of the High Heat Baseball series, 2002. I still play that on my PC. I have tried MVP 05 on my Xbox, MLB 2k8 on my 360 and MLB 09 on my PSP, but I always find myself going back to HH2k2 on my PC.

I loved High Heat on the PC as well. But I really can't see myself still playing it. It's really outdated. I think if you'd give The Show a shot on the PS3, you would be pleasantly surprised. It's the first game that I can honestly say is better than High Heat.

And as far as MVP goes, MEH! I was never a fan. I thought it played a horrible game of baseball, and they always neglected us Manage Only folks. For everything that it supposedly had, I still can't believe there was no way to manage a game. To each his own, but it's ridiculous that people are still talking about that game four years later. It's dead. Let...it...go.....

# 115 bkrich83 @ 05/09/09 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jusmegamer


	MVP 05 Is still the standard and I doubt if the changes.

Ummm... No.

# 116 OhCanadian @ 05/09/09 12:39 PM

The fact that many are debating the pros and cons of each and that these arguments are very close truly speaks to how great MVP 05 was and still is. I have the Show and love it but I don't understand why the hatin' on this thread being here?

A better baseball game is what we are all after. I don't think the writer dissed the Show that badly at all.

# 117 pfunk880 @ 05/09/09 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jim416


	He got some facts wrong, just wondering about this being in this forum. If we can't start threads comparing MLB2k and The Show, why this one? If you or I would have put a comparison here it probably would have been closed.

Yeah, this is the thing I don't get.

To throw in my two cents, though, after one game I have already put MVP to bed. I saw so much stuff in my game last night that I never did on MVP... longer pitch counts, longer at bats, more walks... and this was all on Veteran with default sliders. Was MVP a great game? Certainly, and I still would be playing it now if the LCD TV I got didn't have lag issues with my PS2. But The Show completely destroys MVP, no doubt in my mind.

# 118 Acedeck @ 05/09/09 02:50 PM

Good article. I agree with a lot, and I disagree with a lot.

The hitting is both good and bad in MVP, in my eyes. It's good because you have the control, as you mention, but I can't stand the lack of location hitting. When the ball goes outside, goes a little down and in, I don't want to strictly swing based on my arm motion. I want t swing based on location.

I really loved the hitter's eye in MVP. I do wish they brought that to The Show. It's far more real than guess pitch, though I don't use guess pitch. I WISH they'd implement this feature.

Baserunning was better in MVP, I agree there.

The Dynasty/Owner mode was very good in MVP, though the hot dog prices and such go a little beyond what I care about in a sports game. I really got a kick out of the stadium builder feature, where you could slowly upgrade your new stadium over the course of time, as you *earned* money (not taking out a loan from the piggy bank).

# 119 Glenn33 @ 05/09/09 04:10 PM

I don't think MVP did anything better. That game was overated.

# 120 k_bassuka @ 05/09/09 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn33


	I don't think MVP did anything better. That game was overated.

And this is even more overated than MVP. This game is even worst than last year The Show (Glitch) version.

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