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02:57 PM - March 12, 2009 by MotownFight Night Round 4 Videos
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# 41
Pappy Knuckles @ 03/13/09 12:07 PM
I'm all about authenticity, but seeing a ref in the ring is the last thing that I'm concerned about. It would be cool, but it's not essential. It's just like basketball heads getting upset when their favorite player isn't wearing the right pair of sneakers. People will find reasons to hate on something if they want to. Round 4 looks like it's shaping up to be a very good game. Until you actually play it, I think it's a bit premature to speculate on whether the game is for you or not.
# 42
Pappy Knuckles @ 03/13/09 12:08 PM
Oh yeah, has anything been said about the possible use of the camera for creating boxers?
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# 45
aholbert32 @ 03/13/09 12:44 PM
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# 46
aholbert32 @ 03/13/09 12:48 PM
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And to be perfectly honest - I don't mind no ref in FN4 for the reasons I described above.
BUT, to me it's not about space. The UFC game actually has multiple arenas, with a fairly detailed crowd (i even saw the ring girls sitting in their proper seats) at least 80 fighters of 30,000 polygons each if I remember correctly, buffer, rogan, white are all probably rendered too plus the well-documented crazy amount of voice work in the game (and sound apparently takes up the most disk space).
Like I've said in previous posts - boxing is something that the dev team has to master the little nuances of the sport, which to me is more difficult than pretty much anything else. Because from what i understand they're really trying to nail that down and for them (and you) the ref was too low of a priority to put time into. I don't really mind either, especially if the boxing in thering is good.
# 48
aholbert32 @ 03/13/09 02:35 PM
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Off topic...where did you see the multiple arenas confirmed in UFC?
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- still excited for both, I wonder when FN will ramp up the previews, vids etc..
I agree with BezO about the ref being in the game,they need to have one because they are involved in the boxing match period. If you are in trouble and are not punching back the refs gets real close and eye balling you, that's a sign either throw punches or I'm stopping the fight. Some refs let fighters clinch more then others, it adds some much more realism to the game. If you had a cut, the ref taking a look and stopping the fight, it's apart of boxing. I'm not going to not by the game if they don't have it, it's just something that is apart of boxing and something that's need to be implemented. You know give me a standing eight count by putting your fingers in my face. If your knocked down and he's counting, you know how they did the k'o moment, it should do ref moment in real time to first person and get up the same way you did in previous fight nights. Now I don't want no arcadey K'O moment before you are knock down, just when your on the canvas.
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Like I said before, the devs HEAVILY considered putting a ref in the ring. The reasons they did not were valid. You won't even notice or care after playing for a few minutes.
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Nevermind the choppy framerate, ugly motion captured punches, horrible collision detection, unresponsive controls, and the fact it didn't even remotely resemble real boxing.
No no .. the REFEREE is in the ring!! Yess!! Our dreams have come true.
You sir need to get your priorities checked. Every time i watch a boxing match (which is one of my favorite sports) i focus on the boxers, the strategy, the ebb and flow of a match, the sweet science for goodness sake. The ref is only there to make sure its a fair fight. Thats it.
This game according to the info leaked is bringing for the first time ever in a boxing videogame, innovation upon innovation. Your talking about everything being physics based with no clipping ever, gloves grazing over heads, getting tangled in opponents arms, real life sweet spots on the head and body, for the first time ever they'll be infighting, there will also be outfighting with reach strongly coming into play, extremely varied A.I. with realistic strategies, and finally the career mode all boxing fans have been waiting for, and it will allow us to implement our created charecters into our careers which will have organic rivalries. With alot more info to come.
And thats just what i remember off the top of my head. I have been feeening for a great american boxing game since holyfield boxing on the genesis back in 91. and you guys want to complain about a ref that is purely visual (don't believe me buy Prizefighter).
BezO i wish i knew ur gamertag so come June 30th i'd see for myself how u've eaten your words.
If your a true boxing fan, i dont see how anyone can deny the spectacularity that Fight NIght 4 seems to be.
And for the record I very very rarely buy EA sports games.
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And for the record having a referee that looks just as good and has all the physics that the boxers have, and behaves like a real referee with perfect collision detection and pushes the boxers, wipes their gloves and all of that, that would be Awesome. No doubt.
But its just an unrealistic request that i believe wont be seen in this generation of consoles.
And in the large scheme of things has very, very, very, very, little to do with actual gameplay.
But its just an unrealistic request that i believe wont be seen in this generation of consoles.
And in the large scheme of things has very, very, very, very, little to do with actual gameplay.
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I understand why people want it in the game, i just don't understand even bringing it up at this point when we have yet to receive a great boxing game here in the states.
I mean isn't gameplay what its all about?? This game is actually talking about great gameplay implementation and you guys want to complain about something that would bring authenticity to the game but it wouldn't add to the gameplay.
# 60
SteelerSpartan @ 03/13/09 08:35 PM
wow BezO vs (What appears to be everybody else)
its an epic back and forth..who will prevail??
its an epic back and forth..who will prevail??
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