Fight Night Round 4 Trailer - First Gameplay

[Pappy Knuckles]

I'm all about authenticity, but seeing a ref in the ring is the last thing that I'm concerned about. It would be cool, but it's not essential. It's just like basketball heads getting upset when their favorite player isn't wearing the right pair of sneakers. People will find reasons to hate on something if they want to. Round 4 looks like it's shaping up to be a very good game. Until you actually play it, I think it's a bit premature to speculate on whether the game is for you or not.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Oh yeah, has anything been said about the possible use of the camera for creating boxers?

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Does seeing a ref really add that much to the game? Wiping a glove? Pulling two fighters apart? They dont even need a cutscene for breaks. They can just do it like they always have with a voice yelling "break" and the two fighters pulling apart from each other. Most people are happy with that.

For me? Yes, it would add a LOT. And I'm not concerned with what most people are happy with. Obviously their voices are being heard. I will only speak for myself. I'm not OK with the mystery voice yelling break. Many times fighters don't break until the ref gets physical. I want to see that.

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

What convinces me that this will be more substance than style isnt the trailer or previews or comments from the devs. Its the fact that 5 people here have played the game and loved it. There is also the fact that most of those 5 HATED FN3. So I'll trust their opinions.

The last time people came back from an EA event, I couldn't have disagreed with them more.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveDQ

I think that's the thing too. You add the ref and it's something more to process, taxing the framerate. If they have truly added a new physics system, where boxing is best represented, with inside fighting and proper collision detection, I'm willing to let go of there not being a ref in there.

I don't think that's the reason. I thikn the sole reason there isn't a ref in the ring is there wasn't enough time for them to properly implement one. It was low enough on their wish list not to make it. I'm pretty sure the UFC game has a ref and those graphics are outstanding too. I'd love to see a ref in the game and break clinches (which should be more frequent and organic), but first I need the boxing to be more natural and the game to be able to be played with semi-realistic boxing strategy.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

For me? Yes, it would add a LOT. And I'm not concerned with what most people are happy with. Obviously their voices are being heard. I will only speak for myself. I'm not OK with the mystery voice yelling break. Many times fighters don't break until the ref gets physical. I want to see that. The last time people came back from an EA event, I couldn't have disagreed with them more.

But you still are going to buy the game, right? Cant mean that much to you if you still are going to buy it. I dont recall any of the FNs having refs and I'm sure you bought one or all of those. For example, I have a ton of features that are must haves for me. Prizefighter only allowed you to create 4 CABs, so I didnt buy it. The Show didnt add the ability to play other team's games in your franchise...so i didnt buy it until they added it. So if this is such a big omission, I'm sure you will show EA how you feel by not buying the game on June 30.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by allBthere

I don't think that's the reason. I thikn the sole reason there isn't a ref in the ring is there wasn't enough time for them to properly implement one. It was low enough on their wish list not to make it. I'm pretty sure the UFC game has a ref and those graphics are outstanding too. I'd love to see a ref in the game and break clinches (which should be more frequent and organic), but first I need the boxing to be more natural and the game to be able to be played with semi-realistic boxing strategy.

Cant really compare the two games. From everything I've seen, the UFC game has one arena. That tends to allow for more space to add things like refs. The last FN had 8 arenas and I bet this one has a few more. Still, I could care less about a ref.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Cant really compare the two games. From everything I've seen, the UFC game has one arena. That tends to allow for more space to add things like refs. The last FN had 8 arenas and I bet this one has a few more. Still, I could care less about a ref.

I'm not really trying to argue with you... I know how you feel about refs from past threads lol. It's one of the few times i've seen your posts contain cuss words
And to be perfectly honest - I don't mind no ref in FN4 for the reasons I described above.

BUT, to me it's not about space. The UFC game actually has multiple arenas, with a fairly detailed crowd (i even saw the ring girls sitting in their proper seats) at least 80 fighters of 30,000 polygons each if I remember correctly, buffer, rogan, white are all probably rendered too plus the well-documented crazy amount of voice work in the game (and sound apparently takes up the most disk space).

Like I've said in previous posts - boxing is something that the dev team has to master the little nuances of the sport, which to me is more difficult than pretty much anything else. Because from what i understand they're really trying to nail that down and for them (and you) the ref was too low of a priority to put time into. I don't really mind either, especially if the boxing in thering is good.

[totalownership]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

But you still are going to buy the game, right?

Don't count me in for a 100 percent buy. If I play the demo and it feels like FN rd3 part 2 then I'm out.