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# 41 timotim19 @ 09/23/08 05:58 AM
The crowd was the best thing about this whole video. Yes, with some slider adjustments, I think the game will be pretty good, especially with all the presentation flair that they added. The lack of rookie appearance editing is a low blow and I still cant understand why we dont have real Arena Music but I will once again support this series despite them coming up short yet again.
 
# 42 edubbs @ 09/23/08 07:45 AM
Love the vid.

With some editing of the player tendacies (as usual) this game will have unlimited potential this year.

I really like ALOT of the animations they added.

The AI not being able to shoot off the dribble along with the lack of dribble animations that produce drives, is what really hampered the CPU isolation/ one on one game in years past.

This year the CPU shoots off the dribble AND seems much more effective at dribble drives, in the vids I've seen. That's all I really needed to see.

If the tendacies are ALL working this year, the user will be able to eliminate Alot of issues with the AI's lack of one on one play.

Editing tendacies and customizing the way the players perform is alot of fun. Other than actually playing the game, it's what I spend the most time doing.

I'm just glad it seems the core game will be MUCH more customizable because of the new animations and most importantly, FINALLY the AI has the ability to shoot off the dribble.

Everything looks very good soo far.

BTW, thanks Steve!
 
# 43 fluent2332 @ 09/23/08 08:35 AM
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The cpu never plays great out of the box. Way too many inside shots taken, very few midrange shots taken, and as previously stated lack of one on one iso play. But if you take the time to edit both player and team tendencies, you can alter the cpu to play pretty much however you want them too. I've been able to edit these in 2k8 for some teams and resolove many of the AI problems you guys have been mentioning. But again it takes time, research, alot of cpu vs. cpu testing to really get it right.
sorry fam, I'm not buying that. We've been saying that since what, 2K4 or 5? When they first implemented sliders?

2K7 introduced sig styles, and in 2K9 there is still no true sig style, because every player and team in essence plays the same. They need to take signature style to the core, not just skim the surface with animations

It's unfortunate, because while it will be the best basketball game available, there are still too many glaring deficiencies that CAN be fixed, and should have been already fixed (commentary, team/coach specific playsets, etc).
 
# 44 taiketsu @ 09/23/08 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fluent2332
sorry fam, I'm not buying that. We've been saying that since what, 2K4 or 5? When they first implemented sliders?

2K7 introduced sig styles, and in 2K9 there is still no true sig style, because every player and team in essence plays the same. They need to take signature style to the core, not just skim the surface with animations

It's unfortunate, because while it will be the best basketball game available, there are still too many glaring deficiencies that CAN be fixed, and should have been already fixed (commentary, team/coach specific playsets, etc).
The Association2.0 features, as well as the animations look fantastic, but I'm with fluent on this one - the core gameplay looks like it needs a lot of work. But as one can tell by a majority of the comments posted here, it's these superficial improvements that create the hype to move units. After all, it's hard to show off improved AI code in a promo video.

And when people see something they don't like, I can't understand how they justify their planned purchase with the inclusion of sliders. The perfect sports game shouldn't need ANY sliders. The AI should already play like their real-life counterparts out of the box, and the gameplay ought to always encourage the player to use real strategies seen on the court, field or pitch to reach victory.

For example, anybody who's played the Pro Evo soccer series knows they've never included sliders because their gameplay was JUST RIGHT. The series was never heavy on features (or licenses), but soccer fans kept coming back to it because it played how a soccer game should play, even with extended quarters. I agree that some of the more recent editions have looked less and less like real soccer, but the controls have always been intuitive, the AI acted accordingly, and I would need to exercise real soccer strategies to win. Another game with these qualities that comes to mind is Fight Night R3.

If you ask me, developers offering sliders (to adjust gameplay) is a P*SSY MOVE. They release so-called sports games that often do not play anything like the real sport it tries to emulate. Then they include sliders "so you can play how you want to", in a sorry attempt to please everybody. In actuality, everybody just wants a sports game that plays like the actual sport. If they would just make a game that plays like the real-life counterpart, nobody would even bother with sliders.
 
# 45 Mintsa @ 09/23/08 09:58 AM
Thanks for giving the Raps some love Steve.
 
# 46 riDIRKulous41 @ 09/23/08 09:59 AM
How do I get this video to show? I just get the grey box loading forever....I did not have this problem yesterday, videos worked fine then.
 
# 47 jewelz1132 @ 09/23/08 10:02 AM
I agree with both fluent2332 and taiketsu to a certain extent...If theres a way to make the game better I wouldnt mind using sliders..(Playmakers did wonders for Live lol)..The thing wit me tho, I like seeing a big change each year that can really separate it from previous years..and I think that 2K has got to a point where the major changes wont really happen anymore because they have a very strong foundation to just add things to each year..It's not a bad thing at all, but its kinda hard to justify buying it each year...too bad I'ma impulse buyer lol
 
# 48 jewelz1132 @ 09/23/08 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by riDIRKulous41
How do I get this video to show? I just get the grey box loading forever....I did not have this problem yesterday, videos worked fine then.
just keep refreshing..It will come up eventually
 
# 49 Rinse @ 09/23/08 10:04 AM
Too bad 2K couldnt get the new court design in this year.
 
# 50 blues rocker @ 09/23/08 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by J.R. Locke
Dude been there. My College hoops 2k8 franchise is edited to all hell. I just see the same problems with the fundemental aspects of the game. I don't see any isolation and patience by the CPU. For all this signature style they don't really play like those players. I don't see any improvement in this area and I know there is no slider out there that will isolate Melo and watch him work, I mean really work to get his own shot. The CPU will likely pass to the cutter or back to the PG where it will set up a different play.

I guess we will see but these videos show that it looks like the same basic gameplay from the last 4 years. Which is good and bad.....
i think the reason there are no isolations and one-on-one playes is because 2k's ball-handling system is terrible. they need to copy live's control scheme where the right stick controls dribbling moves. it's just too hard to control dribbling with the same stick that you use to move. you never end up doing the proper move.

the shot stick is totally unnecessary because you could pull off the same variety of shots with a shot button in combination with the left analog stick (to pull off fade-aways, sideways leaners, etc.). i think they really just need to go back to using the right analog for dribbling.
 
# 51 Mintsa @ 09/23/08 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rinse
Too bad 2K couldnt get the new court design in this year.
I dont think any of the NBA games will have the new court this season.
 
# 52 Rinse @ 09/23/08 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mintsa
I dont think any of the NBA games will have the new court this season.
True, also Ukic has a generic white guy's picture, haha.
 
# 53 DC @ 09/23/08 10:16 AM
Good, the CPU finally reaches for steals now
 
# 54 DC @ 09/23/08 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Checmate101
As a Wizard fan, the wizards do go through Haywood at the start of games, to get him off and feeling good, seems like when he feels like he's involved early he plays better, as to the improvement of him this year. So that vid seem about right to be for them to go through haywood, and usually when haywood gets the ball he's not passing it. So that's about right.
I wonder why 2K NEVER gives Haywood a headband
 
# 55 DC @ 09/23/08 10:23 AM
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-Why doesn't moon have a highflyer symbol?
2K hasn't done that in years
 
# 56 riDIRKulous41 @ 09/23/08 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jewelz1132
just keep refreshing..It will come up eventually
thanks but still a no go
 
# 57 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DueceDiggla


Agreed. It'll be another year of every AI team playing the same and big men not utilizing their size and strength in the post.


Everyone will say that its the best bball game ever made for the first couple of months, and then the repetitiveness will be too much to be ignored.
Cant say I agree with that. Taking into account all the videos, Ive seen the AI go to Duncan in the high and low post and Shaq in the low post. I didnt mind the Haywood shots so much because thats what he does. I watch a ton of Wizards games each year and he gets touches in the post. He just sucks so he rarely is successful from the post and has very few moves
 
# 58 DC @ 09/23/08 10:41 AM
Yea people aren't too familiar with Big Haywood. He does take shots from the mid range and also take into account one of the shots in the video came with less than 4 secs on the shot clock
 
# 59 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 10:43 AM
[quote=fluent2332;2038736340]sorry fam, I'm not buying that. We've been saying that since what, 2K4 or 5? When they first implemented sliders?

2K7 introduced sig styles, and in 2K9 there is still no true sig style, because every player and team in essence plays the same.
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Every team plays the same. You were able to see that from 5 4 min videos. I'm just not seeing it. This video looked nothing like the Nuggets/Suns or Lakers/Celts video but maybe im just different. My expectations arent as high as most of yours are.
 
# 60 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
Yea people aren't too familiar with Big Haywood. He does take shots from the mid range and also take into account one of the shots in the video came with less than 4 secs on the shot clock

Exactly. We know from watching that big scrub take a ton of shots in the post. Especially early in the game. My point is in that 4 min I saw Arenas, Butler and Jamison all take shots. I'm not worried about Haywood getting too many shots or them not running their O.
 


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