06:33 PM - August 20, 2008 by OMT
Patch #2 for NCAA Football 09 is available, post your impressions here.
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06:33 PM - August 20, 2008 by OMTNCAA Football 09 Videos
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I definitely think that the 2nd patch makes this game worthy of a purchase. I was pretty frustrated and disappointed with it prior to the patch but after my first post-patch game, I definitely see some potential for fun with the right slider tweaks.
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Hunkerdown @ 08/22/08 11:40 AM
Anyone else seeing flashbacks to last years NCAA problem, INT's, i put human and cpu INT sliders to 0, and still many picks a game. Any suggestions? Other than that a huge improvement!!!
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I don't play online, so that doesn't really entice me, although it is good to hear people enjoying the online experience.
I bought NCAA '06 for 360 (it's BC) a few weeks ago but it's so hard to get into that game because of the framerate drops. Sometimes I wish my expectations weren't so high and that I could be like my buddies who don't read message boards and just go out and buy the game and have fun with it, flaws and all.
Especially when I can get the game for $20, is there really a point in debating this? If it turns out I don't like it after a couple of weeks, I should be able to get that much back in the trade-in value to where it's a wash.
I bought NCAA '06 for 360 (it's BC) a few weeks ago but it's so hard to get into that game because of the framerate drops. Sometimes I wish my expectations weren't so high and that I could be like my buddies who don't read message boards and just go out and buy the game and have fun with it, flaws and all.
Especially when I can get the game for $20, is there really a point in debating this? If it turns out I don't like it after a couple of weeks, I should be able to get that much back in the trade-in value to where it's a wash.
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GisherJohn24 @ 08/22/08 12:01 PM
How is the kicking coverage now on both sides (human and CPU) before the patch it was so darn easy to get 30-40 yards on a punt return against the CPU, how is it now?
# 467
Furious Jig @ 08/22/08 12:03 PM
Are the "visit" glitch and the "i'm staying but the game wont let me" glitch fixed, this is what I want to know
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Keyser Soze @ 08/22/08 12:04 PM
can anyone verify whether or not ONLINE DYNASTY talking guys from XFERING or going pro early glitch has been fixed?
pre-patch only the dynasty creator could talk guys out of going pro. I hoping they fixed this but I am not optimistic since it wasn't listed.
pre-patch only the dynasty creator could talk guys out of going pro. I hoping they fixed this but I am not optimistic since it wasn't listed.
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This is from my impression post above.........
"The longest punt return that I saw was a 35 yarder by Devine, of course it is Devine so that's acceptable. For the most part kick and punt returns were held in check. I think I had 1 return to the 40 and the rest were anywhere from the 25 to 30 yard line. The cpu had 1 return to the 35 and the rest were 30 yard line or less."
I recommend it. And I'm one of EA's biggest critics. It was fun and immersive before the patch, despite its many serious flaws, and the patch appears to have remedied most of them. If you're a college football fan, you should get it, and not just because it's your only college FB gaming option. I can't yet speak for dynasty mode, and I don't play on-line, but otherwise it's a very fun experience.
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If madden's online leagues were an actual online Franchise Mode (like ncaa) however....i would probably have it by now... ....but yeah, I will probably get madden 09 eventually.
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sportyguyfl31 @ 08/22/08 12:16 PM
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With the improvements, this is still my greatest frustration. I'm trying to get teams who actually should be running the spread option to run it properly. It's a major major wart for me.
My last game out, Matt Grothe of USF had 20 yds on 20 carries.
I'm not sure if it is just the programming logice that is making those difficult, but I'm still trying.
The game is playing better, and I really hope that with the sliders working I can put in some time over the weekend, and actually have to worry about Tim Tebow and Pat White, running the offense well.
If I cant, this is going to be strictly a online dynasty game for me.
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# 474
justblaze09 @ 08/22/08 01:06 PM
This is all Sony has to do
To: CDowns
From: Sony
Subject: NCAA Patch
You can put it up now
But nope, Sony are lazy hags and cant type in 5 words
To: CDowns
From: Sony
Subject: NCAA Patch
You can put it up now
But nope, Sony are lazy hags and cant type in 5 words
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# 477
Keyser Soze @ 08/22/08 02:08 PM
Well let me say this about the patch/game and series having owned and played every game since Wuerffel was on the cover.
1- this is the best overall game they have made thus far period.
2- game needs a lot of house rules to tone down glaring AI issues to make game playable/enjoyable if you want any sort of sim experience. if you like winning 122 - 7 then this is not needed for dynasty play
3- although its the best game yet, it was the most bugged game that I have played in my whole life out of the box, let alone in the series. i am shocked that EA even claims to play/test this game
4- there are a few gameplay issues that really need addressed in a big way or we can fully expect next year to have new massive issues with new features. Suction blocking, lack of AI responding to vision, lack of intelligence in CPU play calling, zero learning curve of any kind (can call same play every time for entire season and CPU doesn't care), pursuit angles, attributes meaning something other then speed
5- presentation could use a HUGE boost. Come on EA, you own the licenses, do more with them. bring back pre-game excitement. have michigan come out and slap the banner, etc....
6- i would never recommend this game to a friend who is a gamer but not a huge college football fan as it simply has too many problems and i don't believe would be fun at all
7- this game is only as good as you make it to be. its not an awesome game on its own but does have the potential to be
8- i do NOT like the direction the series is heading as it doesn't seem to have a direction. every year they seem to add a new feature/gimmick, take one away and bring back one form the last generation. because of the game play issues in #4, every new feature seems to cause new problems
9- i would strongly suggest that if EA does indeed employ people who claim to be play testing this game, I would check in on them every now and then to see if they either (a) don't show up for work at all (b) are actually playing other games entirely as they don't like this game (c) are stoned out of their minds and unable to see major problems that all of us found within 1 hour of turning on our game
10- i know this ties directly into game play but i would really like to see the focus of next year be game BALANCE. i would like to see everything simply balanced so that ratings matter, and schemes matter. balance the darn game to be more sim like with default (50) sliders so that sliders could be used to OPEN THE GAME UP not balance it. it sure seems that everything is backwards in this regards. balance pass vs. run. balance PA versus drop back passing. balance SG vs under center. sure, all of them have their strengths and weaknesses but there needs to be more balance so that the same set of sliders don't lead everyone to do the same thing to optomize performance because the game isn't balanced.
so to conclude, this game is faaaaaaaar superior to 2004 (the title that most everyone seems to love and reminiss about) as it should be since its 2009, but its no where NEAR where I would have thought the series would be at had you asked me back when I was playing 2004 to immagine what NCAA 2009 is like. I would have envisioned a much, much, much better game and better AI package by now when you compare it to other games these days. I know NCAA is never going to feel like you are playing a HUMAN when playing a CPU but I would have at least thought that we would have moved beyond randomization with zero AI or calling a D directly based on my play call or audible by now.... but we haven't and that is sad IMO. Heck, simple chess games have existed for years and years that are based on strategy.
1- this is the best overall game they have made thus far period.
2- game needs a lot of house rules to tone down glaring AI issues to make game playable/enjoyable if you want any sort of sim experience. if you like winning 122 - 7 then this is not needed for dynasty play
3- although its the best game yet, it was the most bugged game that I have played in my whole life out of the box, let alone in the series. i am shocked that EA even claims to play/test this game
4- there are a few gameplay issues that really need addressed in a big way or we can fully expect next year to have new massive issues with new features. Suction blocking, lack of AI responding to vision, lack of intelligence in CPU play calling, zero learning curve of any kind (can call same play every time for entire season and CPU doesn't care), pursuit angles, attributes meaning something other then speed
5- presentation could use a HUGE boost. Come on EA, you own the licenses, do more with them. bring back pre-game excitement. have michigan come out and slap the banner, etc....
6- i would never recommend this game to a friend who is a gamer but not a huge college football fan as it simply has too many problems and i don't believe would be fun at all
7- this game is only as good as you make it to be. its not an awesome game on its own but does have the potential to be
8- i do NOT like the direction the series is heading as it doesn't seem to have a direction. every year they seem to add a new feature/gimmick, take one away and bring back one form the last generation. because of the game play issues in #4, every new feature seems to cause new problems
9- i would strongly suggest that if EA does indeed employ people who claim to be play testing this game, I would check in on them every now and then to see if they either (a) don't show up for work at all (b) are actually playing other games entirely as they don't like this game (c) are stoned out of their minds and unable to see major problems that all of us found within 1 hour of turning on our game
10- i know this ties directly into game play but i would really like to see the focus of next year be game BALANCE. i would like to see everything simply balanced so that ratings matter, and schemes matter. balance the darn game to be more sim like with default (50) sliders so that sliders could be used to OPEN THE GAME UP not balance it. it sure seems that everything is backwards in this regards. balance pass vs. run. balance PA versus drop back passing. balance SG vs under center. sure, all of them have their strengths and weaknesses but there needs to be more balance so that the same set of sliders don't lead everyone to do the same thing to optomize performance because the game isn't balanced.
so to conclude, this game is faaaaaaaar superior to 2004 (the title that most everyone seems to love and reminiss about) as it should be since its 2009, but its no where NEAR where I would have thought the series would be at had you asked me back when I was playing 2004 to immagine what NCAA 2009 is like. I would have envisioned a much, much, much better game and better AI package by now when you compare it to other games these days. I know NCAA is never going to feel like you are playing a HUMAN when playing a CPU but I would have at least thought that we would have moved beyond randomization with zero AI or calling a D directly based on my play call or audible by now.... but we haven't and that is sad IMO. Heck, simple chess games have existed for years and years that are based on strategy.
One thing I noticed last night and I know others have mentioned it, but whenever the cpu tries to run the option it ends up either being a no gain or a tackle for loss. That really stinks because whenever I play an option oriented team I know I am going to shut them down.
Two things I noticed last night and I don't know if they are a problem with the patch, or the game in general.
1. I threw a pass on third down and it was clearly incomplete, the ball went behind my WR and hit the dirt 5 yards past him and bounced around on the ground. I get ready to call a punt and all of a sudden the play is under review to see if he made the catch. WTF?
2. I intercepted the ball in the back of the end zone and let myself get tackled there so I could get the ball starting at the 20 (I was tackled in the back of the end zone, no where close to the 1 yard line). The screen went blank for about 2-3 seconds and when play resumed it was my ball, 1st and 10 on the 1 yard line. That was my first "WTF?". I ran my first play, a run up the middle for 6 yards. On 2nd and 4 from the 7 I threw and 8 yard pass. When I get ready to run my next play instead of it being 1st and 10 from 15 yard line the game tells me it is 3rd and 20 from the 15 yard line. I completed a short pass on 3rd down, punted on 4th down, and the problem never showed up again after that.
1. I threw a pass on third down and it was clearly incomplete, the ball went behind my WR and hit the dirt 5 yards past him and bounced around on the ground. I get ready to call a punt and all of a sudden the play is under review to see if he made the catch. WTF?
2. I intercepted the ball in the back of the end zone and let myself get tackled there so I could get the ball starting at the 20 (I was tackled in the back of the end zone, no where close to the 1 yard line). The screen went blank for about 2-3 seconds and when play resumed it was my ball, 1st and 10 on the 1 yard line. That was my first "WTF?". I ran my first play, a run up the middle for 6 yards. On 2nd and 4 from the 7 I threw and 8 yard pass. When I get ready to run my next play instead of it being 1st and 10 from 15 yard line the game tells me it is 3rd and 20 from the 15 yard line. I completed a short pass on 3rd down, punted on 4th down, and the problem never showed up again after that.
# 480
Village Idiot @ 08/22/08 02:26 PM
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