06:37 AM - August 5, 2008 by WallaceNails
Patch #1 is available for NCAA Football 09.
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06:37 AM - August 5, 2008 by WallaceNailsNCAA Football 09 Videos
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If that were not the case, I would recommend purchasing some systems to avoid these "small issues" in the future.
I understand that not every issue will be caught in the testing process, I'm sure some are never caught even after the release. But to release a patch that has a "small issue" is just inconceivable to me, especially when we are told that Sony (who tests every game, not just EA games) caught the problem the "small issue."
In defense of the programmers and designers who are posting here and do not have to:
I do not think it was ever said that the issues that are plaguing this title are funny. I read this as the reason the initial patch got kicked back by Sony was a funny or silly reason. Perhaps the patch was fine but for some ridiculous reason Sony doesn't like a upper case letter where their software team insists on lower case letters in the patch description.
I know it sounds ridiculous but many companies enforce ridiculous little rules that slow delivery methods down, even though the rule itself is not important to the end result. I deal with it all the time in my job. It happens.
I have been on these boards for years and was a big 2k/ESPN guy. I liked the interaction with the 2k programmers and how the "little guy" was more available than the "evil juggernaut EA" (no offence guys....). EA never had a presence here and we all complained about it. Now we have someone here to at least explain the process and try to enlighten us as to what is going on. We have the big Kahuna actually listening and interacting with us.Let's not alienate them and push them away now.
I do not think it was ever said that the issues that are plaguing this title are funny. I read this as the reason the initial patch got kicked back by Sony was a funny or silly reason. Perhaps the patch was fine but for some ridiculous reason Sony doesn't like a upper case letter where their software team insists on lower case letters in the patch description.
I know it sounds ridiculous but many companies enforce ridiculous little rules that slow delivery methods down, even though the rule itself is not important to the end result. I deal with it all the time in my job. It happens.
I have been on these boards for years and was a big 2k/ESPN guy. I liked the interaction with the 2k programmers and how the "little guy" was more available than the "evil juggernaut EA" (no offence guys....). EA never had a presence here and we all complained about it. Now we have someone here to at least explain the process and try to enlighten us as to what is going on. We have the big Kahuna actually listening and interacting with us.Let's not alienate them and push them away now.
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Peace.
Look,
Why don't us PS3 owners just relax and wait for the patch? This isn't the only game you have is it? You don't have anything else to play? How about go outside and enjoy the world!
Yeah, I spent my $60 on release day, saw all the problems on boards, and haven't played it in 3 weeks...and I won't until the patch comes out.
In the meantime, i have other things I can do.
Don't bash these guys for issues with the patch...if the guys who wrote the code and the guys who qc'd it had done everything correctly, we wouldn't have to wait for a patch because there would not be a need for one. Cut these guys some slack!
If we were all still on the PS2 and this happened, we would just be S.O.L. and would have to wait until next year.
I'm not trying to bash you guys, I'm just saying, show some patience and be happy that EA are working on trying to correct some issues instead of letting us hang out to dry.
With all of that said....I still can't believe this game got shipped like this. Next time, wait a few weeks before buying it so you will know what issues may be present and if you can live with them or not.
Why don't us PS3 owners just relax and wait for the patch? This isn't the only game you have is it? You don't have anything else to play? How about go outside and enjoy the world!
Yeah, I spent my $60 on release day, saw all the problems on boards, and haven't played it in 3 weeks...and I won't until the patch comes out.
In the meantime, i have other things I can do.
Don't bash these guys for issues with the patch...if the guys who wrote the code and the guys who qc'd it had done everything correctly, we wouldn't have to wait for a patch because there would not be a need for one. Cut these guys some slack!
If we were all still on the PS2 and this happened, we would just be S.O.L. and would have to wait until next year.
I'm not trying to bash you guys, I'm just saying, show some patience and be happy that EA are working on trying to correct some issues instead of letting us hang out to dry.
With all of that said....I still can't believe this game got shipped like this. Next time, wait a few weeks before buying it so you will know what issues may be present and if you can live with them or not.
I agree I'm glad to see these guys on here as well, but them hearing complaints should not alienate themselves away from these boards. They work in a competitive sector of business, if they get upset/hurt by hearing complaints, maybe the video game market is not where they should be.
I think EA would know what both MS and Sony accept in their patches, so even if it's just "an upper case" here instead of "a lower case" there. Trust me, the same with me in my job. But I have the experience to know what is acceptable and what isn't and I adapt.
I've defended EA about the screw ups (look closer to the beginning of this thread), but the fact that a "small issue" is something that is laughable to an EA employee makes me think that the managment is not managing that company properly. These companies strive for perfection in their products for repeat business, but I'm afraid that some of the responses on here may lead to a drop in demand for 2010.
I think EA would know what both MS and Sony accept in their patches, so even if it's just "an upper case" here instead of "a lower case" there. Trust me, the same with me in my job. But I have the experience to know what is acceptable and what isn't and I adapt.
I've defended EA about the screw ups (look closer to the beginning of this thread), but the fact that a "small issue" is something that is laughable to an EA employee makes me think that the managment is not managing that company properly. These companies strive for perfection in their products for repeat business, but I'm afraid that some of the responses on here may lead to a drop in demand for 2010.
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What changed my opinion is what seems to be a lack of care... maybe not a good word there, how about a lack of due diligence, yeah I like that better. A lack of due diligence was performed for not only this game, but for the patch. I just don't except a "small issue" as laugable excuse, plain and simple. No one should except that, if we do, the quality of the product will decrease.
Again, I love the game and am still playing regardless of a patch or not. Also, I'm glad to see that the EA guys are here and interacting with these community. This is the only way for the game to take the next jump.
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I also started a dynasty with Lan's rosters and I have never had a problem with my depth chart.
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Patch 2 was submitted last Friday. Its really out of EA's hands now. They estimated at least 2-3 weeks before it gets approved and released which is why they have said late August or early September. A lot depends on how many games and patches MS and Sony are reviewing right now - EA's patches just join the back of the line.
It's not a matter of these guys getting their feelings hurt, or not being able to take the heat or they should be in a different job. Obviously, EA as a corporate entity is allowing them to post here for a change. They come on these boards and talk to us in a down to earth realistic manor that should be interpreted as such. Obviously, when it mentioned that the reason the patch was held up was a small laughable reason, he was just being "one of the guys" and being honest. If you are going to cast doubt on EA as a company based on a brief comment then perhaps EA should go back to the old policy:
Say nothing on the message boards and only release press announcements that have been approved through the legal team. These are vague and void of any information so that there are no potential issues or mis-interpretations that could negatively affect EA as a company. Translation: leave us all in the dark.
I find the normal everyday candor that there guys bring here to be refreshing. Sorry that a little "glitch" got caught by Sony, and it probably "was" a silly reason, and now EA doesn't take there job seriously? I just don't see why it is such a big deal that they were honest with us.
Sometimes silly things get in the way of serious business and cause delays that are unavoidable.
Just remember in years past, if there even was a patch, you would never here of it until it dropped. You might not even know what it fixed. But you sure wouldn't hear one of the designers honestly telling you it got hung up because of a silly glitch with Sony. Would you prefer that?
I know I like it much better the way it is now.
Say nothing on the message boards and only release press announcements that have been approved through the legal team. These are vague and void of any information so that there are no potential issues or mis-interpretations that could negatively affect EA as a company. Translation: leave us all in the dark.
I find the normal everyday candor that there guys bring here to be refreshing. Sorry that a little "glitch" got caught by Sony, and it probably "was" a silly reason, and now EA doesn't take there job seriously? I just don't see why it is such a big deal that they were honest with us.
Sometimes silly things get in the way of serious business and cause delays that are unavoidable.
Just remember in years past, if there even was a patch, you would never here of it until it dropped. You might not even know what it fixed. But you sure wouldn't hear one of the designers honestly telling you it got hung up because of a silly glitch with Sony. Would you prefer that?
I know I like it much better the way it is now.
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Computalover @ 08/07/08 12:25 PM
I downloaded wallacenails roster file, and made exactly 3 roster changes, changed one LB to a SS (he played LB in spring training, moved from SS) and changed a number and my game froze.. post patch!!
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callmetaternuts @ 08/07/08 12:27 PM
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Computalover @ 08/07/08 12:32 PM
Patch #1 for the XB360 locks my 360 up every time i use roster files and make position changes and subs.. hardly no editing. I can still edit in dynasty btw.. what gives?
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Rosters were never broken in Dynasty mode, only single player, you can download a roster, take it into Dynasty, and edit to your hearts content, which has always been the case.
The only way to have a clean roster for single player and dynasty is if someone edits a roster from scratch post patch, which FK just posted he will be doing
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I don't mind the negative posters or even the trolls. And Craig has certainly learned a lesson on choosing your words carefully when posting! But he's a smart kid and knew what he was getting into. If you've ever met a programmer, you'd agree that they are a different breed of cat!
Don't worry about people running us off the boards. I might stop posting for a day if folks are getting out of hand, but I'm not going away until the suits tell me to stop posting.
And I do agree with
posts about this PS3 patch! Me and Craig are doing the same thing.
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Good to hear that your not going anywhere... this is a great place to help build on the game
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. But the top dogs in the studio that gave the greenlight to post here I mean. They are actually pretty cool guys. Everyone I work with is, which is one of the things I love about working here.
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Dude, some of your programmers are the definition of anti-social. I give you guys credit for being able to work with them in the capacity you do.
With that said... something needs to be done to ensure a better model of football gets put out for NCAA next year. The quality difference b/w NCAA and Madden is growing by the day.
With that said... something needs to be done to ensure a better model of football gets put out for NCAA next year. The quality difference b/w NCAA and Madden is growing by the day.
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And a great post by the poster you replied to as i agree with him 100%.
Being able to give instant feedback and input that will be taken seriously is great.
Any info you give us on anything is a bonus.
II don't think being aprreciative to OMT and the others isn't azzkissing or validating some shotty work in some areas...
We are humans playing games made by humans....mistakes will happen....thats what makes us human...
A perfect game would be great (never gonna happen, impossible to please the world).
But enjoy what you have...the game industry is evolving and has come along way....and the guys on the OS boards is a great step in helping us all get a little closer to that perfect game experience we are looking for!
Can't wait for the patches (Ps3) and until then my buddy and I are content to mess around with an online dynasty. Play some games against eachother and just have some good fun. Offline I'll probably wait to do my own dynasty until patch 2 hits....so until then I'll play other games...and Madden too when it drops.
Just breathe a little fellas....and thank god that your healthy and alive.
Enjoy life and try not to sweat the little things.
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