Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by cuttingteeth

NCAA to our knowledge hasn't even considered messing with the infinity engine, and if they have then - A). They are just now in development, and it's going to be another year or two....or B). They have long been in development, but they were smart enough to know we would prefer to not have a game stripped of features, so they're waiting until it's completely ready

actually they have cuttingteeth Ben Hamiller (sp?) the producer of NCAA basically said in an interview that with another year they'll have the time they need to incorporate RTP 2.0. Your B point is 100% spot on and is essentially what Ben said when asked why it didn't make it in to NCAA13

[BobbyColtrane]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

I think your being very extreme in your examples, but yes, I'm sure there will be a bug or two that will have to be worked out.

I'm not being extreme in my examples. The 6'8" wide receiver thing happened in NCAA and is an example of the types of bugs that can happen in these games. The punter thing happened in madden a few years ago when punters were being taken in the 1st round by the CPU. Not #1 overall but honestly given the history of this game would it shock you if it happened this year? The shoulder pad thing HAPPENED IN MADDEN 12. THE CURRENT GAME. How is that extreme?

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

how do you fix bugs now? you don't.. you wait for a patch. Now i understand the frustration of relying on one single person's opinion for a roster... i get that part.

32 team control helped A LOT of people work around A LOT of problems in franchise mode. The guys that used it didn't have to wait for a patch. Besides things aren't always fixed in patches. Plenty of things in Madden are never fixed and it's just wait til next year, we didn't have time to fix it, blah blah blah.

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

All the RPG elements give you WAY more control than you have ever had in how your franchise develops.

See that's where we're different. I don't want "RPG elements" in a FOOTBALL GAME. I want football. I'll play final fantasy or something if i want to "level up" my "character".

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

I'm 37 years old with wife, two kids a full time job and very active in my community. I have friends all over this world, both real and virtual.. i can tell some of the best friends i have ever hung out with i met in online leagues. Don't knock it until you've tried it... Friends are friends no matter how you make them.

I'm 35 with a wife and two boys - one 6 and one 2. I work a 60 hour a week job. I don't mean to knock online friends but i am saying i have no interest in it. truthfully i just want to play games by myself and have friends for other reasons.

We're both adults and i don't mean to get into an online pissing contest with you. I'm disappointed with the changes and you seem more or less content. No problem but I'm not and I'm not going to be talked out of my opinion. I feel like my reasons are pretty valid and judging by this thread and other online responses, those reasons are not unique to me.

Happy Gaming.

[Yeats]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

This is way way off. Forget about just Madden the vast majority of sports gamers in general care about this feature otherwise every major sports title wouldn't include it in their games. It's a feature that reaches across the entire community. From the hardcore crowd that wants rosters exactly how they are in the NFL to the little kid who wants to put all the Sesame Street characters in the game as 99 ovrs. It's one of the features that's all encompassing in terms of the demographic. Of course there are people that don't touch it all, but that doesn't change the fact that in 2012 it's a necessary part of any sports game

I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

[Bigmac612]

Wtf do ppl not get abt ppl wanting ncaa imports...what is this "id rather have fake guys with storylines bs"???

Do you not get that when i play with a guy and see other guys from my dynasty for 4 years...i already know their ups and downs im completely immersed into them...they already have their own storylines based off that cause you actually SAW their collegiate career develop!!!

So when you import them in madden and see your guy and other guys you played with or against..it gives you a WAYYYYY better feeling of being immersed because you actually PLAYED as them or against them for a whole 4yrs in NCAA, so imo its much more better than some random guy with a random storyline you know nothing about...watch!, these so called "storylines" are going to be soooooooo generic...if they cared at all..they would atleast gave us the ability to edit our own draft classes...what do ppl not get about this??...say that a class of fake players you have no connection to just other than scouting them than players you have played with or against for 4yrs, won awards and championships with is just ABSURD.....



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[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by drlw322

My problem with this is that josh looman is bring arrogant and not addressing the community with " we ran out of time" well explain what had to be done to get it in. And if it was in what bug did it create that would ruin the whole game. I just think he has that I created the mode and it's awesome attitude and anyone that questions his mode he shuts out. Well if you are in the business of selling a product you don't do that. You explain why something is and how it could benefit the person buying it. Explain how having roster edit this year can create a gaming bug in the mode and what it would do. My thinking is that when you edit rosters in the mode or bring in an edit roster it bugs the storylines and kills the CC mode to a point it is not functional. I'm thinking once you change or edit anything the Storyline tag to each player disappear. But lucy you have some "seplaining" to do

As a programmer myself, i think your probably pretty close to what i would guess as to why edited rosters and draft classes are not in CCM.

As for Josh.. meeting him several times and corresponding with him, the last word that comes to mind is arrogant. I think when you have to communicate with as many people as he does, it's difficult to make everyone feel important though and sometimes maybe it comes off that way.

I know he has expressed to me that he wants to add things the right way going forward with this CCM mode. Maybe that's driving the delay.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeats

I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

I'm talking about editing in general which is the topic of this thread and you only speak for yourself on these boards you have no idea what the typical Madden gamer does with their game

[wheelman990]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeats

I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

Completely false. Just look up old threads and comments all over the internet man. Even casual Madden players tweet, visit forums, and visit youtube!!!

And the casual player wants to edit up his favorite players like superman.

Online is not as popular as so many like to think. Not even the majority have xbox live gold! Some not even a ISP! Those are the more hardcore players online. To be honest I think most casual players trade in Madden after a month anyway. The ones I know did.

[penacho]

I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in this thread, but I didn't find it. In what video, podcast, tweet, or interview did Josh Looman say we couldn't edit a player's number?

In online franchise we could only edit the number and it made sense to me. I don't see how changing the number would mess with a story.

Looman talks a lot about immersion and I respect him for doing his emphasis on immersion. He's got to realize if I'm the Dolphins I don't want a #13 on the roster. If I trade for Tebow, I want to change Bess' number and give Tebow #15, too. If I can't do those things, I'm not immersed in the "reality."

Thanks to anyone who can give me a source!