Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

[PVarck31]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

There's a reason why this continually happens. And it's not because of "hate" lol. Everytime people bring up issues where Madden is lacking to older NFL games (NOT JUST 2K5) the response isn't "This is why you're wrong...", the response is "You're just hating". You can't fault people for not wanting to bury their heads in the sand and act as if the issues don't exist. There's a reason videos of other football games are banned in this forum. But I do agree w/you on the point that this is a discussion of the staff's demo impressions.

Really? We ban videos of other football games in this forum because they make Madden look bad? You don't think it could possibly be because this is the Madden forum? You have been here long enough to know we don't allow comparison videos in the Madden forum or the 2k forum when it was here.

This forum would be absolutely unreadable if we opened up that can of worms.

It has nothing to do with protecting Madden. Whether you believe that or not is on you.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by 31

This forum would be absolutely unreadable if we opened up that can of worms. It has nothing to do with protecting Madden. Whether you believe that or not is on you.

I didn't say anything about you guys protecting Madden. While I don't agree that the forum would be unreadable, it would upset those that prefer to remain oblivious to the game's issues. If you re-read my post you'll see I was referring to those people. When someone brings up a legitimate issue, it's rarely shot down or discussed. It's usually passed off as "hate".

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I didn't say anything about you guys protecting Madden. While I don't agree that the forum would be unreadable, it would upset those that prefer to remain oblivious to the game's issues. If you re-read my post you'll see I was referring to those people. When someone brings up a legitimate issue, it's rarely shot down or discussed. It's usually passed off as "hate".

There are people that that enjoy the game for what it is and acknowledge there are still issues with the game.

Not everyone is oblivious to the games issues and buries their hand in the sand.

There are also people who "hate" EA for having the license and want to stick it to EA by not buying the game or buy the game used.

It slices both ways. And to that, I say, to each their own.

[PVarck31]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I didn't say anything about you guys protecting Madden. While I don't agree that the forum would be unreadable, it would upset those that prefer to remain oblivious to the game's issues. If you re-read my post you'll see I was referring to those people. When someone brings up a legitimate issue, it's rarely shot down or discussed. It's usually passed off as "hate".

Some people just want to visit the Madden forum to get info and talk about Madden. Some people don't want NFL 2k5 thrown in their face in every thread.

And why do you care if someone prefers to remain oblivious to the games flaws? Is there a crusade needed to spread the word of Maddens flaws? If someone can play the game and enjoy it, is that not ok, or should they be made aware of all the games flaws?

As for legitimate issues being passed off as hate, aren't you doing the same thing to people who prefer to remain "oblivious" to the games flaws?

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by 31

Some people just want to visit the Madden forum to get info and talk about Madden. Some people don't want NFL 2k5 thrown in their face in every thread.

And I can understand that. Not sure why all of a sudden this is focused on 2K5, when I brought up a bunch of older games. And I'm sure I'm not the one that introduced it into this thread in the first place. And who said I cared about someone's enjoyment of the game? There are many people on this board that have commented incessantly on anything negative that's been said about the demo, the game, etc. And for the most part those persons' views aren't being challenged or curbed - at least I know I haven't set out to purposely curb someone's enthusiasm.

The point I've tried to make is while people get angry at other people for bringing up older games, those older games are only relevant because Madden has allowed them to remain so.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by IntellectualAssassin

Again, I'm more anti-Madden then I am pro-2K5.

Ok. You're one of those types of posters. To ignore you go.

Quote: Originally Posted by IntellectualAssassin

Well then you couldn't be further off base. You think people actually come here to criticize Madden just for ****s and giggles?

I know they do.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Not everyone is oblivious to the games issues and buries their hand in the sand.

Exactly, and sometimes, you just want to talk about the game or try to find solutions to the issues via sliders or something instead of yet another list of things someone doesn't like with a "why isn't it fixed yet?"

I read enough QQ on the SC2 forums LOL :P

I mean, I saw the flaws in M10, tried my best to fix them, at least to my satisfaction with sliders. Just because I didn't make, or want to read, a detailed list of "everything that sucks compared to (insert old game here)" doesn't mean I want to be (or am) oblivious.

[KBLover]

Anyway, just got the demo, playing out first game (man I'm rusty, first pass...with AARON RODGERS...is picked off LOL).

I LIKE the no commentary. Love it, love it, love it. Sad that it's only because it was done on purpose for the demo. Then again, "analysts" in booths drive me up a wall a lot of times irl.

I haven't screwed around with many settings (except to put the speed threshold a little lower to 35). I saw many people playing on very slow, so I'm going to put it on that for now. Wonder if it impacts things in terms of on the field play (i.e. players play differently, not just slower animating)

Haven't seen a penalty yet.

So far, I'm still on the fence, I saw the new features for franchise and that might make me want to do it if I can at least tolerate the game play.