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[TheGame8544]

Quote: Originally Posted by steed

So I should raise melo and stoudemire just to give them the "star" role ? I know you're a NY fan but you should be a bit more relalistic. STAT and MELO are poor defensive players, Melo doesn't rebouding well despite his size and body and he doesn't shoot the ball well this season. STAT doesn't know how to defend the pick and roll and has a good overall rating because he is athletic, it's the same for Blake Griffin. Now you can boost these players and give them ratings they don't deserve. People always complaining about rosters, ratings or rotations but they are free to do all the changes they want and it takes only a few minutes to do it.

Um, dude, Melo has been one of the best rebounding SF in the entire league. I don't like the guy, but to call him a poor rebounder or say he doesn't rebound well is a bit foolish. Really, the only SF that are better rebounders are Lebron, Gerald Wallace, and maybe Durant.

As far as his shooting, he has never been a very good "close" shooter but since the trade to NY, he has been spectacular at the rim shooting 63%. He is also a VERY GOOD mid-range shooter and has maintained that title shooting 43% with Denver and 38% with NY. He is also an ok 3pt shooter as he is currently shooting 42% but only 33% with Denver, 32% last year, but 37% two years ago.

[steed]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheGame8544

Um, dude, Melo has been one of the best rebounding SF in the entire league. I don't like the guy, but to call him a poor rebounder or say he doesn't rebound well is a bit foolish. Really, the only SF that are better rebounders are Lebron, Gerald Wallace, and maybe Durant.

Did you really read what I wrote ? I said he doesn't rebound well "for his size and body". He is good rebounding player for sure but he could be better, he is just lazy, and you sould be blind to not see that. He doesn't care about defense contrary to the players you mentioned.

[steed]

The only way to reach an 88 overall rating for Melo is to give him more than 70 on defensive awarness. Does he deserve more than 70 ? I don't think so.

[rugged0shrew]

Quick question. Have the Potential ratings been touched? I'll admit I sim more of a season then I play so I can get 4-5 seasons in. I'd hate to see this great roster set be the victim of inflation 2 years in.
Oh and thanks for all the work guys! It is much appreciated!

[Timathie]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheGame8544

Um, dude, Melo has been one of the best rebounding SF in the entire league. I don't like the guy, but to call him a poor rebounder or say he doesn't rebound well is a bit foolish. Really, the only SF that are better rebounders are Lebron, Gerald Wallace, and maybe Durant. As far as his shooting, he has never been a very good "close" shooter but since the trade to NY, he has been spectacular at the rim shooting 63%. He is also a VERY GOOD mid-range shooter and has maintained that title shooting 43% with Denver and 38% with NY. He is also an ok 3pt shooter as he is currently shooting 42% but only 33% with Denver, 32% last year, but 37% two years ago.

Melo is ranked 35 (Ranked 28 if you count same stat as one spot.) out of all the forwards in the league with 9.8 rebounds per 40 min.

Melo is ranked 64 (Ranked 43 if you count same stat as one spot.) out of all players in the league per 40.

Straight from NBA.com stats page.

[Giants4Natic]

Quote: Originally Posted by steed

So I should raise melo and stoudemire just to give them the "star" role ? I know you're a NY fan but you should be a bit more relalistic. STAT and MELO are poor defensive players, Melo doesn't rebouding well despite his size and body and he doesn't shoot the ball well this season. STAT doesn't know how to defend the pick and roll and has a good overall rating because he is athletic, it's the same for Blake Griffin. Now you can boost these players and give them ratings they don't deserve. People always complaining about rosters, ratings or rotations but they are free to do all the changes they want and it takes only a few minutes to do it.

I never said you were right or wrong. But if you read our reason behind keeping him at 88 or 87 is due to the fact that in franchise mode he is not given the star treatment and the you can trade for him and get back garbage

That is not the way it works.

He is an 87 or 86 in your file but on 88 he is harder to deal with like it should be.

No need to get all bent out of shape about it.

He might not be a great player to you but he is not a bad player and is one of the most complete offensive players in the game.

Averages 7-8 bounds per game at a small forward position. Not bad at all

[MikeJ2021]

Quote: Originally Posted by steed

The only way to reach an 88 overall rating for Melo is to give him more than 70 on defensive awarness. Does he deserve more than 70 ? I don't think so.

Not true. In our roster his Def. Awarness is 70. Speed and quickness is 83 and 86. Consistency is 90 (which is right considering some say he is the most consistent and best scorer in the game)

Quote: Originally Posted by rugged0shrew

Quick question. Have the Potential ratings been touched? I'll admit I sim more of a season then I play so I can get 4-5 seasons in. I'd hate to see this great roster set be the victim of inflation 2 years in. Oh and thanks for all the work guys! It is much appreciated!

Potential has been edited.

Quote: Originally Posted by Giants4Natic

I never said you were right or wrong. But if you read our reason behind keeping him at 88 or 87 is due to the fact that in franchise mode he is not given the star treatment and the you can trade for him and get back garbage That is not the way it works. He is an 87 or 86 in your file but on 88 he is harder to deal with like it should be. No need to get all bent out of shape about it. He might not be a great player to you but he is not a bad player and is one of the most complete offensive players in the game. Averages 7-8 bounds per game at a small forward position. Not bad at all

This and what Game said is exactly why he is rated a 88. Overall ratings is a touchy subject so I try not to argue too much about it. For every reason a person may have that Melo sucks, I can give you another reason why Melo is the best scorer in the NBA. If a person says Stat is a poor defensive player and similar to Blake, I can say that Stat is a good help defender and is on a different level than Blake.

[wrestlinggod1]

The only problem I have with this roster is the high shooting ratings. Lebron is not an 80 in 3-point shooting, D. Wade is not a 75, and CB is not a 70. There is a 25-99 point scale and I feel like it isn't being used. Besides that, great roster.