Let's talk about Speed With Ball and how it should be divided up.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

I don't agree with fastbreaks are slow. People just don't know how to use it or pass the ball. And you can see the speed with ball and speed here. I think add more could be good. But I'd like see how it works out. So many people just jam on the speed button when you don't even have to. And it's not perfect either.

These aren't really great examples, though. Most of the clips in these videos have defenders getting back in position, and then just show either poor AI or awful human decision-making on defense. The speed and human reactions aren't really demonstrated.

Really, the biggest issue is the differentiation in speed and quickness between players.



You can see how explosive guys like Rose (from a few years ago), Wall, and Westbrook are compared to everyone else on the court, and how easily they can weave between defenders and get down the court. In 2k, there isn't that separation between players. A guy like Westbrook doesn't feel much different on a break than, say, Kevin Love. It's even more evident when you try to cross over at full speed.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

These aren't really great examples, though. Most of the clips in these videos have defenders getting back in position, and then just show either poor AI or awful human decision-making on defense. The speed and human reactions aren't really demonstrated. Really, the biggest issue is the differentiation in speed and quickness between players. You can see how explosive guys like Rose (from a few years ago), Wall, and Westbrook are compared to everyone else on the court, and how easily they can weave between defenders and get down the court. In 2k, there isn't that separation between players. A guy like Westbrook doesn't feel much different on a break than, say, Kevin Love. It's even more evident when you try to cross over at full speed.

What! Russell Westbrook the same as Kevin Love.... I got nothing lol.... I just showed a video with real fast breaks. And the reply is poor AI and Human mistakes lol.

I'm good...

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[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

I don't agree with fastbreaks are slow. People just don't know how to use it or pass the ball.

They are entirely too slow. I can run a down and back sprint faster than a guy like Westbrook can in game. The ball travels far too slow on any pass in 2k, it's just worse and more noticeable on the breaks. And players turning to catch the ball is a big of a lag. In 2k nothing is ever done in stride, the reaction time for players to catch the ball and continue running in a dribbling motion is greatly flawed.

The fact that Stackhouse had to stop and turn to make some weird two handed pass shows my point. Nothing done on the fly. Lag when Kittles caught the ball from kid.. Stopped watching after that because it's exactly my point.

[Thetruth11]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Speed needs a giant overhaul in general because everyone on the game is too slow, fast breaks are slow, and myself at my age can still do an down and back sprint faster than I can make any player do one in 2k. It’s pathetic. And the amount of time it takes for a player to pass, catch, on the break is ridiculous. I’m not sure how fast breaks have taken such a massive backseat for 2k over the past few years now. Speed with ball I don’t think should have drastically different numbers. About 90% of people aren’t THAT much slower with the ball in their hands. So I wouldn’t like to see all bigs be slow by default if they aren’t slow players to begin with. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Idk what your player but every possession on this game is a fastbreak especially with the over celebrating animations


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[Thetruth11]

The problem is we need to have 20 stat categories for my players that way there's a real uniqueness , also keep the badges to 20
, and last let us put attribute points where we want

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[howardphillips214]

Just looked it up. Westbrook has a 97 ball handling with a 98 SWB.

I'm asking for 75-80 ball handling and a 90 ish SWB for pure slashers.

My 6'4 200lb playmaking slasher has 86 ball handling and 83 speed with ball. How that makes any sense is beyond me.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

They are entirely too slow. I can run a down and back sprint faster than a guy like Westbrook can in game. The ball travels far too slow on any pass in 2k, it's just worse and more noticeable on the breaks. And players turning to catch the ball is a big of a lag. In 2k nothing is ever done in stride, the reaction time for players to catch the ball and continue running in a dribbling motion is greatly flawed. The fact that Stackhouse had to stop and turn to make some weird two handed pass shows my point. Nothing done on the fly. Lag when Kittles caught the ball from kid.. Stopped watching after that because it's exactly my point.

The passing during a break could use a boost. And I see what your saying. But I think that would cause breaks to be OP in my opinion.

(Which pass are you talking about?)

Quote: Originally Posted by Thetruth11

Idk what your player but every possession on this game is a fastbreak especially with the over celebrating animations Sent from my SM-G920T using Operation Sports mobile app

You know I didn't have any problems this year with celebrations. Not as much as 17. 17 was really bad. You couldn't break them out.


This is the kind of passing I see from 90% of people. Who just don't want to move the ball on a break.

[YourHairlineTrash]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

Just looked it up. Westbrook has a 97 ball handling with a 98 SWB. I'm asking for 75-80 ball handling and a 90 ish SWB for pure slashers. My 6'4 200lb playmaking slasher has 86 ball handling and 83 speed with ball. How that makes any sense is beyond me.

You want your slasher to have Westbrook speed, but you don't want his weakness which is shooting under 30% from three.

The player you have described would be completely gamebreaking in Pro-Am, 40% three and 90 speed with ball? Yeah, glad you're not in charge of ratings lol