Let's talk about Speed With Ball and how it should be divided up.

[El_Poopador]

I think the speed with ball rating needs to be broken up into smaller categories. Fast break speed should be close to the player's full sprint rating, assuming they're just dribbling in a straight line and not being defended.

But if they want to try crossing over or going behind the back or something similar, or even just changing directions, they should be slowed down accordingly based on their ball handling ability.

Player speed and speed differentiation is something this game has struggled with since I started playing over 10 years ago.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

I think the speed with ball rating needs to be broken up into smaller categories. Fast break speed should be close to the player's full sprint rating, assuming they're just dribbling in a straight line and not being defended. But if they want to try crossing over or going behind the back or something similar, or even just changing directions, they should be slowed down accordingly based on their ball handling ability. Player speed and speed differentiation is something this game has struggled with since I started playing over 10 years ago.

Thats what acceleration is supposed to handle but it does jack. At most, someone you're faster than won't be able to pass you and impede your drive on a break, but they'll literally be able to run alongside you even if you have a +15 difference in speed rating. Then they will be able to block or contest your layup or dunk if you decide to go up. Its ridiculous and why its hard to use pgs that can't dunk on the break

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by UnbelievablyRAW

Thats what acceleration is supposed to handle but it does jack. At most, someone you're faster than won't be able to pass you and impede your drive on a break, but they'll literally be able to run alongside you even if you have a +15 difference in speed rating. Then they will be able to block or contest your layup or dunk if you decide to go up. Its ridiculous and why its hard to use pgs that can't dunk on the break

Acceleration should be a different rating altogether in that respect. Speed and speed with ball should be more about top speed. Acceleration should be strictly how quickly you can get to a full sprint. Personally, I think acceleration should be broken up into two ratings: acceleration with and without ball. A guy like Kyle Korver, for example, can speed up pretty quickly around screens, but doesn't generate a lot of speed quickly with the ball in his hands.

I also think there should be a separate rating for "first step," also broken into two: first step while dribbling and first step from the triple threat. Those two would be similar to acceleration, but obviously would apply to how explosive the ballhandler can be on their first step when they start the drive to get by their man. They wouldn't really apply to fast breaks.

I just think the game needs a lot of situational ratings that don't apply at all times, but based on the context of what the player is doing.

[TheMattyT]

Quote: Originally Posted by ILLSmak

Dude I love ya but it's funny how every thread you make could be boiled down to buff slashers. You should make the official buff slashers thread or blog. Speed with ball should be an equation of ball handling and speed, they should not have people with 99 speed and 70 speed with the ball unless their handles are like 35, even then they'd be goin faster than that and they'd prolly just run straight out of bounds or kick the ball, falling over helplessly. I could see having to be more careful with turbo and dribble moves as a fast player when you had low handles but even a guy like Shaq can reach high speeds with the ball on the break. It's not that hard to run forward and dribble. -Smak

Youre right lmao... except this one I actually agree with. As a slashing shot creator, I NEVER agree with him. Hes right on this though.

Playmakers should have 99 ballcontrol and 80-85 speed with ball. Slashers should have 99 SWB and 80-85 ball control, so no speed boosting for pure slashs. Shot creators should fall in the middle of both of those

[triplechin]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

IMO, the problem is that so much of the game mechanics seem to now be designed around balancing online play MyPlayers. If the game were still just real NBA players, then every player could just have their attributes and that would be that. They have to balance for archetypes, inane User playstyles, and exploitation of gameplay mechanics, so a lot of artificial mechanics are built in around these things.

They should just balance the archetypes properly imo (as someone who only plays ProAM) because these garbage ratings and especially the badges make the game mode ridiculous. Leave the cheese for Park.

[triplechin]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

It just doesn't make sense to be fast without the ball but then slow down once I'm on the break. If i get caught on the break by a sharp next year i WILL be breaking a new Tv. Lmfao

If Pure Sharps can defend on the break and get blow-bys again this year I'll have a busted TV as well lol

[redsfan4life]

Let's just make slashers get limitless range too. Your love for slashers is a tad ridiculous bro.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Speed needs a giant overhaul in general because everyone on the game is too slow, fast breaks are slow, and myself at my age can still do an down and back sprint faster than I can make any player do one in 2k. It’s pathetic. And the amount of time it takes for a player to pass, catch, on the break is ridiculous. I’m not sure how fast breaks have taken such a massive backseat for 2k over the past few years now. Speed with ball I don’t think should have drastically different numbers. About 90% of people aren’t THAT much slower with the ball in their hands. So I wouldn’t like to see all bigs be slow by default if they aren’t slow players to begin with. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't agree with fastbreaks are slow. People just don't know how to use it or pass the ball.



And you can see the speed with ball and speed here. I think add more could be good. But I'd like see how it works out. So many people just jam on the speed button when you don't even have to.



And it's not perfect either.