NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrStats94

Crap, I just realized I did NOT download the wrong set of sliders *facepalm* so I deleted that message for nothing. Anyway, I really don’t feel like typing that whole thing over again so I’ll make it quick this time: what’s the reason for the body-up sensitivity slider being at 0? I swear I’ve seen you comment on another thread that you usually put it at 100, for the increased animations/realism. Am I mistaken? If not, why is it set at zero?

I believe my latest settings have it at 100. But there’s really not a ton of difference either way for some reason, 0 vs 100 gives very similar gameplay. I’d leave it at 100 as it seems to give a higher chance for charging/blocking foul animations to trigger.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrStats94

However, I just used a set titled EccentricMeat v5.0 that was shared by someone else, made a few adjustments to my personal liking, and I just had two of the best games I’ve played in months! So I don’t know if it was an older version of your slider set or what, but it worked great! It did have body-up sensitivity set to 100 though, and there was marked improvement in gameplay. Both games had at least one team break 100, which I never came close to while using your sliders as they are in the OP. Those games (12-15 of them) were ALL defensive battles with average scores of around 80 per team, with very little variation. I suspect that is in large part due to offensive consistency being set at 0. Maybe you could chime in on that, too? Because I did find that odd when I saw it.

0 Offensive Consistency I really love this year. It makes the game have a higher prevalence of hot/cold streaks, which leads to more variety game-to-game and more authentic gameplay as it reduces the amount of games that are constantly tied with minimal scoreless streaks.

It also helps to alleviate the issue with shot stick timing becoming too easy once you master your players’ release as you can still miss with a good shooter if you only slightly miss-time the release.

Quote: Originally Posted by keshunleon

Eccentric, ACE off correct?

I leave ACE on.

[MrStats94]

Quote: Originally Posted by EccentricMeat

0 Offensive Consistency I really love this year. It makes the game have a higher prevalence of hot/cold streaks, which leads to more variety game-to-game and more authentic gameplay as it reduces the amount of games that are constantly tied with minimal scoreless streaks. It also helps to alleviate the issue with shot stick timing becoming too easy once you master your players’ release as you can still miss with a good shooter if you only slightly miss-time the release.

Thanks for the response! I was operating under a theory that offensive consistency determines how often a play will perform up to their ability, so essentially higher OC=more buckets. I didn’t suspect that it had much to do with streaks

[EccentricMeat]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrStats94

Thanks for the response! I was operating under a theory that offensive consistency determines how often a play will perform up to their ability, so essentially higher OC=more buckets. I didn’t suspect that it had much to do with streaks

You’re mostly right. High offensive consistency means shooters will shoot to their ratings with little variation (limited hot/cold streaks). Low offensive consistency means players get into hot/cold streaks more easily (instead of just consistent performance per their ratings), leading to more variety and more hot/cold runs for each team.

[MrStats94]

From my own personal experience, I just don’t understand how anyone can play with offensive consistency on 0. It seems to be the sole determining factor over whether I will score 80-90 points and shoot like 38% (slider on 0) or score 95-105 points and shoot 45% or up (slider on 50). It doesn’t seem to make anything more random, it just seems to completely nerf my team’s shooting abilities, even on layups. I’ve even switched mid-game after a high-scoring first half many times, and turned it down to 0 from 50. I’m in one of these games right now as I type this. I shot 51% in the first half (9/15 3pt), moved the OC slider down to 0, and I’m shooting 36% in the second half (2/12 3pt) midway through the 4th. I know this is just one example, but I bring it up to illustrate exactly what happens when I say that it happens every single time I try this specific test. If it changes consistency/streaks in the way you suggest, then at least some of the time the hot shooting would continue into and throughout the second half, right? So that I could score 120 every now and then? Except it never does. I’m not exaggerating either, not one single time does the good shooting continue into the second half. These reasons are why I strongly question that the slider determines how quickly/slowly players get hot/cold streaks. I mean maybe it has an effect on that as well, I don’t know. I have not tested that aspect of it. It does for sure lower a player’s reliability though, it just doesn’t seem to do that in the way intended.

Also, you said that you had body-up sensitivity at 100, but it is at zero on the first page of this thread in bold red. Last time I downloaded your set on the PS4 it was also at zero there.

[EccentricMeat]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrStats94

From my own personal experience, I just don’t understand how anyone can play with offensive consistency on 0. It seems to be the sole determining factor over whether I will score 80-90 points and shoot like 38% (slider on 0) or score 95-105 points and shoot 45% or up (slider on 50). It doesn’t seem to make anything more random, it just seems to completely nerf my team’s shooting abilities, even on layups. I’ve even switched mid-game after a high-scoring first half many times, and turned it down to 0 from 50. I’m in one of these games right now as I type this. I shot 51% in the first half (9/15 3pt), moved the OC slider down to 0, and I’m shooting 36% in the second half (2/12 3pt) midway through the 4th. I know this is just one example, but I bring it up to illustrate exactly what happens when I say that it happens every single time I try this specific test. If it changes consistency/streaks in the way you suggest, then at least some of the time the hot shooting would continue into and throughout the second half, right? So that I could score 120 every now and then? Except it never does. I’m not exaggerating either, not one single time does the good shooting continue into the second half. These reasons are why I strongly question that the slider determines how quickly/slowly players get hot/cold streaks. I mean maybe it has an effect on that as well, I don’t know. I have not tested that aspect of it. It does for sure lower a player’s reliability though, it just doesn’t seem to do that in the way intended. Also, you said that you had body-up sensitivity at 100, but it is at zero on the first page of this thread in bold red. Last time I downloaded your set on the PS4 it was also at zero there.

Do you play with real player % or user timing? I never have a problem with constantly shooting a low percentage or having a low scoring game every time with Off. Consistency set to 0, but I use User Timing.

And yea, the OP is my latest “official” set but it is outdated. I posted some new BETA sliders a number of pages back that play much better IMO.

When I get back to my laptop I’ll update the OP with those BETA sliders. My bad!

[EccentricMeat]

*BETA* (and FINAL) Update Posted!

2K18... It's been real. It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun. Sorry, but I see this newer, younger model on the horizon (2K19), and I'm just not that into you anymore, baby... I'll tell you what, let's give it one last go around, for old time's sake. Yea? Alright, but stop crying, that totally takes me out of it...

But in all seriousness, this BETA update will be the last thing I do with 2K18. 2K19 is just around the corner, and after seeing the new hotness, I just can't go back to the old-and-busted. Can you blame me?

I present to you:

Base Slider Set v6.0 *BETA* - Latest Update: August 11th

Spoiler

Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Hall of Fame (Make sure to update ALL sliders after changing difficulty)
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Game Speed - 48
Free Throw Difficulty - 50
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Shot Meter - Off
Shot Feedback - User Preference

Coach Settings
PlayVision - All Plays
PlayVision Display - Full
Offense Playcalling - Auto

These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense.

Controller Settings
Shot Reaction With Intense D - On (User Preference)
Defensive Assist With Intense D - 0

Camera Settings
Drive
Zoom - 1
Height - 5
Key Zoom - Off

This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way!

Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera.

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 66/69
Close Shot Success - 66/69
Mid-Range Shot Success - 54/56
3PT Success - 54/56
Layup Success - 57/60
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/60
Dunk in Traffic Success - 48
Pass Accuracy - 50/25
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 57/60
Ball Security - 50/25
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100
Pass Speed - 58

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 40/60 (Makes it a little easier for the CPU to blow-by perimeter defenders while making it more difficult for the USER)
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 80
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 90
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 95
Help Defense Strength - 100
Steal Success - 65/60

Attributes
Acceleration - 40
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 50
Speed – 35
Durability - 50
Hustle – 85/75
Ball Handling – 50
Hands – 70/55
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 70
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 60/65
Offensive Awareness - 75
Defensive Awareness – 65
Offensive Rebounding - 8/7
Defensive Rebounding – 12/11
Offensive Consistency - 0
Defensive Consistency - 65
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 0/100 (Set CPU to 50 if their defense is too solid)

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 90
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 30
Take 3PT Shots - 45
Post Shots - 45
Attack the Basket - 30
Look for Post Players - 60
Throw Alley-Oops - 45
Attempt Dunks - 45
Attempt Putbacks - 30
Play Passing Lanes - 60
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100
Contest Shots - 90
Backdoor Cuts - 45

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 60/100 (Increase USER if you're called for too many charges and/or you want the CPU defense to be called for more blocking fouls)
Reaching Foul Frequency - 75
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/45
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 60
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 55
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 97
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 93
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45

[jakalfc]

Quote: Originally Posted by EccentricMeat

*BETA* (and FINAL) Update Posted! 2K18... It's been real. It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun. Sorry, but I see this newer, younger model on the horizon (2K19), and I'm just not that into you anymore, baby... I'll tell you what, let's give it one last go around, for old time's sake. Yea? Alright, but stop crying, that totally takes me out of it... But in all seriousness, this BETA update will be the last thing I do with 2K18. 2K19 is just around the corner, and after seeing the new hotness, I just can't go back to the old-and-busted. Can you blame me? I present to you: Base Slider Set v6.0 *BETA* - Latest Update: August 11th Spoiler Gameplay Settings Difficulty - Hall of Fame (Make sure to update ALL sliders after changing difficulty) Quarter Length - 12 Minutes Fatigue - On Injuries - On Game Speed - 48 Free Throw Difficulty - 50 Shooting Type - User Timing FT Shooting Type - Real Player % Shot Meter - Off Shot Feedback - User Preference Coach Settings PlayVision - All Plays PlayVision Display - Full Offense Playcalling - Auto These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense. Controller Settings Shot Reaction With Intense D - On (User Preference) Defensive Assist With Intense D - 0 Camera Settings Drive Zoom - 1 Height - 5 Key Zoom - Off This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way! Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera. User vs. CPU Sliders If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format. Offense Inside Shot Success - 66/69 Close Shot Success - 66/69 Mid-Range Shot Success - 54/56 3PT Success - 54/56 Layup Success - 57/60 Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/60 Dunk in Traffic Success - 48 Pass Accuracy - 50/25 Alley-Oop Success - 50 Contact Shot Success - 57/60 Ball Security - 50/25 Body-Up Sensitivity - 100 Pass Speed - 58 Defense Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 40/60 (Makes it a little easier for the CPU to blow-by perimeter defenders while making it more difficult for the USER) Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100 Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85 Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 80 Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 90 Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 95 Help Defense Strength - 100 Steal Success - 65/60 Attributes Acceleration - 40 Vertical – 50 Strength – 50 Stamina – 50 Speed – 35 Durability - 50 Hustle – 85/75 Ball Handling – 50 Hands – 70/55 Dunking Ability - 50 On-Ball Defense – 70 Stealing – 50 Blocking – 60/65 Offensive Awareness - 75 Defensive Awareness – 65 Offensive Rebounding - 8/7 Defensive Rebounding – 12/11 Offensive Consistency - 0 Defensive Consistency - 65 Fatigue Rate – 50 Lateral Quickness - 0/100 (Set CPU to 50 if their defense is too solid) Tendencies Take Inside Shots - 90 Take Close Shots - 15 Take Mid-Range Shots - 30 Take 3PT Shots - 45 Post Shots - 45 Attack the Basket - 30 Look for Post Players - 60 Throw Alley-Oops - 45 Attempt Dunks - 45 Attempt Putbacks - 30 Play Passing Lanes - 60 Go for On-Ball Steals - 100 Contest Shots - 90 Backdoor Cuts - 45 Fouls Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100 Charging Foul Frequency - 100 Blocking Foul Frequency - 60/100 (Increase USER if you're called for too many charges and/or you want the CPU defense to be called for more blocking fouls) Reaching Foul Frequency - 75 Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/45 Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100 Movement Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 60 Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 35 Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 55 Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 35 Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 97 Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45 Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 93 Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45

Hello EccentricMeat, I had read in previous posts that you did not know whether to buy nba2k19, I understood that now you will buy 19, what made you change your mind? is it worth it to you to go with nba2k19? ........ to be premised that I play with the simworld rosters and I'm still having fun

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[EccentricMeat]

Quote: Originally Posted by napoli

Hello EccentricMeat, I had read in previous posts that you did not know whether to buy nba2k19, I understood that now you will buy 19, what made you change your mind? is it worth it to you to go with nba2k19? ........ to be premised that I play with the simworld rosters and I'm still having fun Inviato dal mio SM-A510F utilizzando Tapatalk

A mix of boredom with 2K18 and apathy of the league in general (after Cousins signed with the Warriors) made me question whether I would even buy 2K19.

Then I saw the gameplay improvements 2K added this year + all of the HUGE improvements and customization options added to MyLEAGUE and I was sold.

Only problem is I also love playing Madden and FIFA, as well as all the other games I’ll be getting this fall (Spyro, Spider-Man, Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield V, and FALLOUT 76!!!!) and the fact that me and my buddies play Fortnite and PUBG on a regular basis, it’s gonna be a crazy few months coming up


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