OSFM 2013: Chicago White Sox

[JoeCoolMan24]

Quote: Originally Posted by Denzel Washington

he did well last year as well It would be close-minded to not think his OPS will be above 1

And OPS over 1.000?!?!?! Are you aware that only 10 players did that last year in the entire minor leagues? All AAA, AA, and A-ball players, only 10 did it.

Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Not even close.

[Denzel Washington]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeCoolMan24

And OPS over 1.000?!?!?! Are you aware that only 10 players did that last year in the entire minor leagues? All AAA, AA, and A-ball players, only 10 did it. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Not even close.

came close in Peoria and he was still rusty after going 2 years without playing ball

[JoeCoolMan24]

Quote: Originally Posted by Denzel Washington

came close in Peoria and he was still rusty after going 2 years without playing ball

I thought we were talking about Almora? He's the one who is a 74 in the game. Baez is like a 64 or something.

[jseward92]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeCoolMan24

I thought we were talking about Almora? He's the one who is a 74 in the game. Baez is like a 64 or something.

You're talking about Soler currently

[JoeCoolMan24]

Quote: Originally Posted by jseward92

You're talking about Soler currently

I thought Soler was a 75?

[hjgilber]

Quote: Originally Posted by CWSpalehoseCWS

First, let me say this, I also have nothing against the Cubs. I know Sox fans get ragged on for that, but I do not go out of my way to bash the Cubbies. I do think that the Cubs prospects are rated a little too high after reading what you said. What it seems like is they might need to be scaled back a little more, meaning their progression may be 1 or 2 years too far ahead. IMO, players that have overalls of 60-70 are near MLB ready guys or bench players. So when I read a scouting report that says 2-3 years away, I have to let the progression system take its course. That's why some of the Sox players are low. If they are considered "raw" they shouldn't be called up until easily 2 seasons have passed. I don't want to see someone like Courtney Hawkins appear on a MLB club in 2014 in franchise, because he won't in real life. I'm not real familiar though with some of the Cubs prospects though, other than maybe Soler, and how far away from the MLB they are or not. When I create players, I am very tough when it comes to handing out ratings. One out of 10 players in the minors makes the major leagues in real life, and I feel that should be properly represented in the set as well. I look at MiLB splits, age, and level, and then adjust accordingly with OSFM's rating system. Some guys I feel do get rated too high, and I most likely can be found guilty of rating certain guys too low and nerfing certain aspects of their game. That's the good and bad of have 30+ guys rate these prospects. It's great to see everyone's take on things. When it comes to somebody like Hawkins, here was the process I went through when rating him. First, he's only 19. He won't be in the majors any time soon, as he's still very raw in certain aspects. Granted, I believe he will turn into a very good OF for the Sox, hit about 25 HR's (but only a .260-.270 hitter) and probably be on an All-Star team at some point in his career, but not within the next 2 years. Second, if I rate Hawkins to what I think will be his peak (which for just about every MLB guy is 29-30) then that is still 10 years away. That's 10 years of progression that needs to take place (personally, I think he will reach it sooner) and being an A prospect he's going to reach it faster. Rate him too high, and he could end up turning into a monster at the plate. So I'd rather be safe than sorry. Of course this is all personal opinion, so there isn't a right or wrong answer. Just my take on things.

Hey, just keep in mind MLB players peak seasons are ages 24-27, not 29-30. You should want your players on here to hit their desired ratings by the time they are around 26. This isn't the steroids era anymore, 30 is well past prime performance.

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[jseward92]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeCoolMan24

I thought Soler was a 75?

He is something like that but he said he came close to a OPS over 1.000 and hasn't played much over the past two years. That would be Soler not Baez or Almora. He had a .910 OPS by the way.

[JoeCoolMan24]

Quote: Originally Posted by jseward92

He is something like that but he said he came close to a OPS over 1.000 and hasn't played much over the past two years. That would be Soler not Baez or Almora. He had a .910 OPS by the way.

Baez had a .979 OPS in Peoria, and only played 85 games in 2011 and 2012 combined. That sounded exactly like what he was talking about.