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NCAA Football 10: Time to Consolidate the Wishes

Now that the dust has settled and a new National Champion has been crowned, college football fans now face a harsh truth: We must endure the long, prosaic, football-less interim until the 2009 season kicks off in August.

For many of us, the culmination of the real-life NCAA football season signals the demise of the annual love affair with EA Sports’ NCAA Football, and shifts the focus to the future. While the introduction of the Online Dynasty mode will likely give NCAA 09 some added momentum this year, many gamers -- if they have not already -- will begin to discuss the new features and improvements the 2010 version will bring to the table.

There is already a lengthy NCAA Football 10 wish-list thread here on OS, but I felt it was time to begin the consolidation process.

On the Field: Broken Tackles

The fast-paced, anything-can-happen gameplay of NCAA 09 made it, in my mind, one of the better football games to date -- at least post-patches. The (usually) fluid controls allowed for some pretty shifty open-field moves that often left defenders searching for their jock straps.

Only one month later, however, Madden NFL 09 upped the ante, implementing a tackle-breaking system. The Madden system is inherently different from NCAA since much of the tackle breaking occurs after contact, rather than prior to contact. This led me to think, why not have both? Nifty, elusive moves and broken arm-tackles are both prevalent in the college game, so why not include both systems? Surely the two are not mutually exclusive.

First on my on-field wish list, keep the wide-open style of gameplay, but implement Madden 09's power-out-of-tackles system. The current system tends to favor the speedy, nimble ball carriers, while the slower, more powerful backs go down too easily. It would be nice to at least see a version of Madden’s tackle-breaking system (likely dictated by players’ strength and break tackle ratings) injected into next year’s game. This implementation would give us the best of both worlds, and more importantly, a more realistic game.


On the Field: Passing Offense

One of the major complaints about NCAA 09 is the offensive bias in the passing game. Completing passes is too easy, defending them, too hard. Of course, sliders can remedy most on-field balance issues, but it was still irksome that the game’s default settings -– regardless of difficulty -- did not emulate the real product.

On the offensive side, there are a few things that can be done to correct these shortcomings. First and foremost, the throwing accuracy ratings need to be more evident on the field. As asinine as it sounds, I want to see more incomplete passes because of poor throws. While this does happen occasionally in the game, instances of over/under-thrown balls are too few and far between, even with slider adjustment. In real life, not all QBs can consistently thread the needle, and it would be nice to see this reflected in the game.

At the same time, I want to see a system where pressure and throwing on the run -- or off the back foot -- have more adverse effects on throws. These factors already have some influence on throwing accuracy in the game, but I have seen far too many bull's-eye throws in unlikely situations. Perhaps a new rating for quarterbacks may be in order, something like Throwing Accuracy Under Durress (TAD) or Throwing Composure (THC). Such a rating could further differentiate the great quarterbacks from the average-to-mediocre field generals, while again bringing the passing game back down to earth.

You may ask, am I insane? Why would I possibly hope for devices to discourage my passing attack? Many gamers, myself included, would feel a strong urge to fire a controller off the drywall if a QB randomly missed a wide-open receiver. However, these little in-game adjustments would make the gameplay much more true to life. Thus, it would force gamers to adjust their games appropriately. Sub-par QB? Focus on the running game, and look for short passes; or recruit a better QB if a top-tier passing attack is what your heart desires. While the frustrations would be imminent, I would happily sacrifice a few passing stats for more realism.

On the Field: Passing Defense

Simply put, the pass rush needs to make a comeback of epic proportions. In general, quarterbacks have far too long to throw the ball in NCAA 09. Blitz packages help a bit, but there needs to be a better showing from the defensive line, especially in situations when the defensive lineman is much more skilled than his corresponding offensive lineman.

Balance is key when making such an adjustment in gameplay because there are a limited number of line audibles at the offense’s disposal. As most of you know, while on offense, you can only call slide-protection line audibles. These allow you to pick up a blitz or more effectively shield a roll out, but would do very little to address a dominant defensive lineman who is eating your left tackle’s lunch. Without the ability to call in-depth line audibles like double teams or down blocks (another wish), a new and improved pass-rush system would have to be very balanced, but still reflect line mismatches. Perhaps I cannot have it both ways. I would not know, I am not a developer. But the lack of a realistic pass rush does need to be addressed.

The pass defense in the secondary could also use a bit of work. Overall, the awareness of DBs and linebackers needs a slight boost. I am tired of watching linebackers sit in the center of an assigned zone while a receiver saunters into a wide-open hole just a few yards away. The defense’s reaction to receivers and the ability to maintain man coverage needs to improve.

I am also still pushing for more pass break-up animations. These animations could take the place of some of the game’s interceptions, which are still overly abundant. NCAA 09 still feels a bit too pick-happy; though, it is better than the ridiculousness in the '08 version. Substitute some of these INTs with some pretty knockdown animations, and I would be a happy camper.



On the Field: Fumble Pileups

This idea stems from my hatred for NCAA 09’s fumble animations. While the scoop-and-score animations that occur in space are satisfactory, fumbles that occur in a crowd result in some real nonsense. Essentially, none of the animations that occur after the fumble look realistic within the context of the situation. Next year, I hope there is a system that allows for fumble "pileups." Such a system would be applicable when the pigskin comes loose somewhere within a sea of humanity.

In theory, this is a great idea, but it does raise a question. When a pileup does occur, what decides who comes up with the ball? Would it just be a cool animation, and the first player to dive on the ball wins? Or would there be some sort of button-mashing mini-game to determine the outcome? It is an interesting debate. Personally, I would want a system weighted towards the first diver, with an outside chance that another player could rip it away. I picture it working something like the current onside-kick system. This improvement would not only add another degree of realism to the game, but would also throw some more excitement into head-to-head contests.

In-Game: Better Presentation

Although NCAA 09 was a big step back in the right direction in terms of atmosphere, there still seems to be loads of potential for next-gen consoles.

There are of course, the little-yet-not-so-little items like correct uniforms, alternate uniforms and updated stadiums. At this point, these go without saying and should always be a main goal of EA’s developers. But in addition to these obvious exclusions, the overall game atmosphere still feels somewhat lacking.

For starters, the Gameday broadcast should be put back in. As cheesy and repetitive as it was -- and as much as I loathe Lee Corso -- it gave the game some flair and authenticity. Actual team entrances and possibly some team-specific entrances should also find their way back from the last generation of NCAA games. In addition, is it too much to ask to see the captains meet at the 50-yard line for the coin toss?

Within the game, I would like to see improved stadium sounds. Yes, the custom stadium sounds do help a bit, but I would like for there to be more anthem-type songs played during the games. For example, I want to hear the "Imperial March" from the band at Memorial Stadium when the Illini force a punt. I also want to hear the Penn State student section belt out "Seven Nation Army" when the Nittany Lions get a first down. There is a lot that could be, and should be done to make the atmosphere feel more authentic.

One final note to this rant: Is it really too much to ask to have team-specific end zone art in the bowl games? I think not.

Dynasty: Expand (But Do Not Reinvent) Recruiting

I love the "new" recruiting system. Not to say I hated the old one, but the older I got and the more I learned about actual college recruiting, the more the old system of point assigning seemed ridiculous.

I absolutely love the way the current system allows you to slowly sell your school over the course of a season, which nudges recruits to re-prioritize based upon your school's strengths. It is certainly not perfect, but it is a great deal of fun, especially when recruiting against human users in online dynasties.

As much as I like this system, there is room for improvement, and I would like to see it move forward come mid-July. I am still clinging to my "special pitches" idea from last year, where certain schools have special pitches that can serve as trump cards in certain recruiting situations. Things like "historical program," "up-and-coming program" or "gateway to the pros" would be certain things that might play a powerful role in landing top recruits. The game already focuses on these areas via some of the available pitches, but these pitches do not quite play the pivotal role that they should when it comes to the recruiting landscape.

Online Dynasty: Spectator Mode

Have I mentioned that I really, really, really, really enjoy the Online Dynasty mode?

If gamers were allowed to watch other human vs. human games online, it would be a nice improvement. It is simply not enough to read the box score and watch canned uploaded highlights on EASportsWorld.com. I want to see the entire game unfold, and hear the banter between the competitors. It is part of the fun of Dynasty mode.

Since online-dynasty gamers sometimes experience lag when they play their games on weekends or any weekday after 5 p.m. EST, I think this wish can be placed in the not-bloody-likely category. However, that does not mean a guy cannot dream.

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I have attempted to get the ball rolling, so why not get this consolidation process going. What things MUST happen in NCAA Football 2010?


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Member Comments
# 161 Gossennator @ 02/28/09 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by husker_star
well what if they made the campus legend NCAA 10 or 11 into an RPG, like you have to drive/walk to practice after school, actually goto classes, be able to drive and even be in relationships. kinda make it into a GTA kinda rpg cept w/o the violence and all that. you could go partying and if you brake rules and get caught u get suspended. does anyone know where i can send in ideas? and another thing is maybe an online campus legend? if you make a player and your friend makes it on the same team he does his job as a runnign back and i do mine as a lineman. please help guys
Not to be a dick, that's a terrible idea. No one would want to walk to classes and go party. People buy NCAA Football to play actual football.
 
# 162 hotboydttjr @ 02/28/09 09:22 PM
How about expanded roster limits... why not 100 roster spots per team.
 
# 163 nexdawg @ 02/28/09 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hotboydttjr
How about expanded roster limits... why not 100 roster spots per team.
Cause takes up to much space! Dont see to many UNO people lol!
 
# 164 Allaboutme @ 03/01/09 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nexdawg
Cause takes up to much space! Dont see to many UNO people lol!
Not only that they will be crying when kids are taking all the recruits just to fill that roster.
 
# 165 Allaboutme @ 03/01/09 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by millikin54

4. Return the ability to edit the height and weight of recruited players.

Only in offline dynasty. this would be cheap in online dynasty and unrealistic.i can see people doing the 6'8 WRs and CBs....
 
# 166 JAYMO76 @ 03/01/09 02:37 PM
OMT,

I think this is a small but realistic "fix" for the 360 & ps3. Can the CPU pull the starting Quarterback after four interceptions & bring in mass subs in a blowout again like last gen versions? Though I am not a programmer I suspect that this would be an easy and quick addition??? Is it in the realm of possibility? Stuff like this adds so much realism to the game...
 
# 167 nexdawg @ 03/02/09 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JAYMO76
OMT,

I think this is a small but realistic "fix" for the 360 & ps3. Can the CPU pull the starting Quarterback after four interceptions & bring in mass subs in a blowout again like last gen versions? Though I am not a programmer I suspect that this would be an easy and quick addition??? Is it in the realm of possibility? Stuff like this adds so much realism to the game...
This is next gen Jay I want the starting QB pulled if he plays like crap not just 4 picks unless he's a "cosmetic" Impact player ofcourse.

On the subject of impact player is that feature still in the game OMT? Or can you even comment on that?
 
# 168 MICHIGANMAN011 @ 03/03/09 01:44 AM
alrite wat i think alot of ppl will agree with and that is true is whats with the stadium overlook before u start a game in 09 like y cant we get something like that shows the players coming out of the tunnel or if ur playing with notre dame y is it that u cant see them hitting the play like a champion today sign instead of watching the stadium like dont get me wrong its a beautiful stadium but i wanna get pumped up before i go play somebody
 
# 169 nexdawg @ 03/03/09 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MICHIGANMAN011
alrite wat i think alot of ppl will agree with and that is true is whats with the stadium overlook before u start a game in 09 like y cant we get something like that shows the players coming out of the tunnel or if ur playing with notre dame y is it that u cant see them hitting the play like a champion today sign instead of watching the stadium like dont get me wrong its a beautiful stadium but i wanna get pumped up before i go play somebody
I almost certain there doing stuff like that this year!
 
# 170 JAYMO76 @ 03/03/09 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nexdawg
This is next gen Jay I want the starting QB pulled if he plays like crap not just 4 picks unless he's a "cosmetic" Impact player ofcourse.

On the subject of impact player is that feature still in the game OMT? Or can you even comment on that?
I agree... but I don't expect to see that for 2010. Impact players... yeah I would expect to see them again. It sure would be nice if we could choose the impact players though.
 
# 171 Allaboutme @ 03/03/09 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JAYMO76
I agree... but I don't expect to see that for 2010. Impact players... yeah I would expect to see them again. It sure would be nice if we could choose the impact players though.
why would they allow you to choose it in the game? coaches dont choose who there impact players are in real life, its whoever rise to the occasion.
 
# 172 nexdawg @ 03/03/09 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JAYMO76
I agree... but I don't expect to see that for 2010. Impact players... yeah I would expect to see them again. It sure would be nice if we could choose the impact players though.
Thats why im not thrilled with the impact player feature. They end up force to guess at who they are except in some obvious cases. That and i think its a lil cheesey I feel like if they play like there ratings you dont need a feature to seperate elite players the rating should be doing it. Why does Idaho has to have three impact players the same as USC?
 
# 173 TrevJo @ 03/03/09 06:16 PM
Nerf the drop back 15 yards passing.
 
# 174 DF32 @ 03/05/09 03:55 AM
I think every1s ideas will make this game the best yet.....
Bringing back the FCS Teams would be good and having all the uniform upgrades such as VaTechs new uniform would be great.....
Also another thing would be 2 bring back the SPRING GAME during the offseason of Dynasty Mode
 
# 175 Anaxamander @ 03/05/09 12:40 PM
I simply want an option to be able to export rosters from dynasty AND from Campus Legend. That's all I ask.
 
# 176 TrevJo @ 03/06/09 08:40 PM
In Online Dynasty, all 3 weeks of Bowl games should be playable simultaneously. There should only be 1 advance for the bowl games, not 3.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-one-week.html

Also, Players Leaving and Transfer Requests can be combined. (1 advance instead of 2.)
 
# 177 JayD @ 03/08/09 10:17 AM
Dynamic Attendance!!!! For regular season and bowl games.

Field Degradation.

Better weather effects.

Accelerated clock
 
# 178 da ThRONe @ 03/08/09 02:00 PM
Im curious at this stage in NCAA 10 development what kinda things can be changed or added? Im sure if it aint on there radar then its not going be in 10
 
# 179 AndyBernard @ 03/08/09 02:15 PM
The weird way the defense runs next to you instead of cutting you off, needs to be taken away, forever

and

much better play calling vs the computer


Andy has had some really good games end cause the computer down by 4 with 2 minutes left play called and acted like it was the first day of spring practice

fix those two things, and Andy would buy the same game next year
 
# 180 aws81588 @ 03/10/09 01:32 AM
maybe add regional pipelines to go along with pipeline states. If two kids from the same town are big prospects have them be interested in same schools/ things of that nature. Also i loved the new pitches but when i switched jobs my coach prestige would fall to that of the previous coach at that school instead of following the coach.

Individual team's intros would be nice and maybe keep track of how many years a team has beat another for pregame conversation or mention the scores of the game a year before.
 


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