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Improving The Franchise Mode in NBA 2k

One thing I love about NBA 2K8 is the way the game plays on the court. One thing I hate about NBA 2k8 is, the franchise mode. The franchise mode has been stale for years now, which seems to be a trend in most next generation sports games. Companies are so focused on graphics, gameplay, and online play that they neglect an entire sect of their customers who love flying solo. The best way to cater to this group of gamers is to give them a more in-depth franchise mode.

My major gripe with the mode in NBA 2K8 is that it seems to have no drama or story lines. It gives some news updates regarding unhappy players (which essentially means nothing but a couple points off their attributes), injuries, and big wins by certain teams -- but who even really pays attention to that?

What I want is a weekly recap show à la SportsCenter with some key highlights and a review of standings and power rankings. That would give me a better sense of what’s going on around the league. It could include a host and a couple analysts who evaluate trades and players of the week and such, of course using generic dialogue lines -- any dialogue is better than none. I’m sure 2K could throw a bone to the GTA voice-over guys; I hear they’re looking for some extra money these days.

Another thing that needs to be addressed is the morale system. It needs to have a bigger influence on gameplay and franchise decisions than it presently does. The NBA is full of drama; from Kobe wanting out of LA early in the year and now claiming his team is like family, to the phantom migraine escapade from Jason Kidd. 2K should add drama to the franchise and intertwine it with morale on an individual and team basis. What happened to the Association Mode that was introduced in NBA 2K5? It wasn’t perfect, but it was a step in the right direction. Players would enter the GM office and ask questions, and the responses would dictate the player’s attitude after they left. The mode could be revised so that when a player leaves unhappy I could get an e-mail about how he spoke to a media outlet and vented his frustration. Then, as the GM, I would have to approach the player and try to work things out, which if unsuccessful could lead to a trade, head coach firing, or any other sorts of outcomes.

Speaking of coaching change, why is it that the coaching system in general has not changed in years either? Not only is there no incentive to ever change the head coach of my team since it’s expensive to buy some no name coach with the same exact ratings as the one you presently have, but I never even see head coaches fired in the game. It seems about every year in real life there are at least three or four coaches fired, so it would only make sense to have that take place in the franchise mode.

Coaching should also influence the way a team plays. It should not be an option to change sliders and affect crashing the boards or playing more transition offense. That should be dictated by the head coach, which would make the decision as to who to hire based on the personnel. If I want to change the way the team plays I should then have to meet with whoever I have manning the ship and request him to change up the style of play. The better the relationship with the coach, the easier it is to get things done the way I want.

The last thing I would address is the scouting. Not that it’s terrible, in fact it feels pretty good as is, but it still feels like it's missing something. At first, there’s no real indicator in terms of who you should be scouting. I wish there were newspaper clippings, even if just a couple generic headlines to get a sense of what kind of player the kid is. If the team is in need of a big body in the paint who can give some energy and lay down a couple dunks, the scouts could go look at a player with the headline, “Mike dunks home the championship!” It could just be a little something to help differentiate the player early on in addition to the generic letter grades.

NBA 2K8’s franchise mode has tons of potential, and I want to see it blossom in all its glory, but as of now I only think of what could have been. I need more from all franchise modes in all sports games I play. The player needs to feel more immersed in whatever virtual sports world the video game is trying to represent. There needs to be highlights, drama, headlines, firings, and trades out of frustration. So please 2K, I promise I won't berate you for not improving the A.I. of the halftime cheerleaders if it means I get a better experience within the franchise mode.


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# 1 convince @ 06/12/08 05:27 PM
I think i remember a post by a 2K designer, stating that 2k9 will focus more on improving the presentation. Hopefully that includes "in game" and aspects of the franchise mode.
 
# 2 Pepenfl @ 06/12/08 05:30 PM
Excellent! I agreed. I'm a lonely player who DON'T enjoy playing online (everyone, every human, play the game with an awful style for me) and i need a really deep franchise mode ti be happy. NBA 2k8 is a wonderful basketball game, but i need a wonderful NBA sim game.
 
# 3 Iadf @ 06/12/08 05:44 PM
I agree, i look forward to the franchise mode and jump into it once i get the game and i would love more detail,cut scenes.and for the love of god let us sign real coaches, i want to bring phil jackson to the raps and i cant tisk tisk tisk.
 
# 4 ennepetal @ 06/12/08 06:00 PM
I play dynasty/franchise style play in all my games exclusively, and I play nothing other than sports game (well, nearly...anyhow). I really don't like the NBA 2K franchise stuff. It does need to be more compelling to keep me from just jumping into another game, especially with such long seasons. I like the idea of a weekly show that would keep you checking in on stuff going on around the league.

I find that setting the practice schedule is a thankless chore. If I could turn it off, I would. I think it would be great if your assistant coaches would update you (emails?) with team trends or personnel issues so you could then address them. Just arranging practices weekly, frankly, sucks.
 
# 5 johnny33 @ 06/12/08 06:03 PM
I guess I'm in the minority in that I'd rather have a stripped down Franchise mode... I don't want to set practices every week, or have to hire scouts to give reports on some made-up prospect. I just want to play, make trades, at draft time get a list of prospects to choose from with ratings, etc.. I want a Franchise mode that's at more like 80% playing games and 20% managing the team, not 20% playing and 80% managing.
 
# 6 johnny33 @ 06/12/08 06:05 PM
..would be a great feature too, that as players retire in your franchise... you can turn them into assistant/head coaches.
 
# 7 edubbs @ 06/12/08 06:08 PM
All I need is the season mode that they had back in the Dreancast days.

Just give me the ability to control every team's depth chart and rosters. So, I can mirror the season that is going on IRL.

I really miss this feature and I wish VC would bring it back.

Oh yeah, and please fix the rotation/injury bug from 2k8. That caused the game to scramble player's MPG each time there is a injury during the season.
 
# 8 Behindshadows @ 06/12/08 09:30 PM
Great read! I agree the Association has fell off! And I'm been complaining and wishing about a full weekly wrap up for years! And in 2k8 the team chemistry really didn't seem to effective. I'd sacrifice 24/7 mode and dunk contest crap for a better presentation and more on court features in a second.

Live 08's Dynasty mode killed the Association this year! Also I truly hope 2k9's graphics are more realistic this year. I want them to surpass EA's player models which look so real. There is a lot that needs to be done in so little time. Lets hope after or during E3 we find a lot out about this game and seem some 80% completion screenshots or videos. Anything less than that is a waste of time!
 
# 9 statum71 @ 06/12/08 09:31 PM
That weekly re-cap show idea a la SportsCenter is something they've shown they can do anyway. So now that College Hoops is discontinued, they should move that right on over to NBA 2K.

And "College Hoops Tonight" with Greg Gumbel and Clark Kellogg was tight by the way....
 
# 10 DC @ 06/12/08 09:34 PM
LOL @ Shadows finding a way to mention graphics in an Association Post.

But what did Live do that was so much better than 2K? I didn't play Live this year
 
# 11 Shinyhubcaps @ 06/12/08 11:52 PM
I disagree with statum71 about the recap in College Hoops. I need to train my players, find recruits, do the bonus drills, practice plays... I don't need to see some poorly-animated show saying that Ohio State is playing Michigan State this week. In fact, is there a way to never remind me of the highlight show?

A highlight show is always mentioned on the 2K Sports forums, but they're all newbies with no clout as opposed to people who want a genuine sim experience. So, no matter how much I play offline (100%, by the way), I don't feel that a highlight show would be a good use of the developers' time or disk space (not that they utilize even a quarter of the PS3 disk space as-is).

I'd just like to see more things for the GM to do like interviews, with the press or with players or anyone in the organization.

I think that there is a lot that can be done with the game including Association, but I don't think your list pinpoints those well. I mean, storylines would be good in the case of two players not getting along or something, but this isn't professional wrestling. I do like the idea of players going into the GM's office, though.
 
# 12 studbucket @ 06/12/08 11:57 PM
Say what you want shinyhubcaps, but I play only offline, do all the training, am in year 6 of a closed legacy, and I still like the highlights shows. I don't watch them every week, but I do enjoy them.

If that makes me less of a gamer to some elite pricks, so be it.
 
# 13 Kodii Rockets @ 06/13/08 12:27 AM
Great Read. I think the addition of features such as the NBDL and ten day contracts are a must for a succesful association, the way the baseball games implemented their respective minor league systems this year would be a good place to start. Being able to send those young prospects down to the LA Dazzlers would be excellent for the longevity of the game
 
# 14 luv_mist @ 06/13/08 01:38 AM
To piggyback on this, they don't even have to sign the real NBDL. They could make up their own leagues and crap where we could go scout players and stuff. Make it a bit deeper so that we can have the ability to find our gems. I enjoyed the read. Basically what I'm waiting for from 2K. I'm very curious to see how Live's Dynasty was though I didn't play it? What did they do to make it better than 2K's Association? Need to do some copying and pasting in this piece??
 
# 15 Behindshadows @ 06/13/08 02:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luv_mist
To piggyback on this, they don't even have to sign the real NBDL. They could make up their own leagues and crap where we could go scout players and stuff. Make it a bit deeper so that we can have the ability to find our gems. I enjoyed the read. Basically what I'm waiting for from 2K. I'm very curious to see how Live's Dynasty was though I didn't play it? What did they do to make it better than 2K's Association? Need to do some copying and pasting in this piece??
Short Video!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24157.html

5 Page Interview on their Dynasty Mode!

http://videogames.yahoo.com/news-1154837
 
# 16 buttons0662 @ 06/13/08 10:17 AM
First of All Great Article. Wow ... so many different opinions ... I guess everybody wants what they want ... like Mr. SHINYHUBCAPS whom I TOTALY disagree with ... Who cares about interviews, and or the Press (You do of course ... no offense) But this is a Basketball game lets focus on Basketball. The Bryan Gumbel / College Hoops Weekly Show coming to NBA 2K9 would be a Great Addition ... He could give ALL STAR Votes updates, Recap League Leader (Points, Rebounds, Assist) Name Player of the Week / Month and of course Highlights ... I would love to see the implantation of the ALL STAR Weekend (Rookie Game, Dunk Contest, Three Point, Skills Challenge, ALL STAR game) and the Ability to Edit Coaches. Coaches should have ratings like the players do so the Coaches Rating would affect the Teams Overall Rating ... the Ability to Create a Coach would be Nice (Then I'd put Coach K on the Bulls). A real life Practice would be nice .. the ability to work on plays or even create some. I'm excited to see what the Guys at 2K do ... and uhh check out my 2K9 Wish ...

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/nba-2k/251340-my-nba-2k9-wish-late-2k-please.html

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# 17 Behindshadows @ 06/13/08 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by buttons0662
First of All Great Article. Wow ... so many different opinions ... I guess everybody wants what they want ... like Mr. SHINYHUBCAPS whom I TOTALY disagree with ... Who cares about interviews, and or the Press (You do of course ... no offense) But this is a Basketball game lets focus on Basketball. The Bryan Gumbel / College Hoops Weekly Show coming to NBA 2K9 would be a Great Addition ... He could give ALL STAR Votes updates, Recap League Leader (Points, Rebounds, Assist) Name Player of the Week / Month and of course Highlights ... I would love to see the implantation of the ALL STAR Weekend (Rookie Game, Dunk Contest, Three Point, Skills Challenge, ALL STAR game) and the Ability to Edit Coaches. Coaches should have ratings like the players do so the Coaches Rating would affect the Teams Overall Rating ... the Ability to Create a Coach would be Nice (Then I'd put Coach K on the Bulls). A real life Practice would be nice .. the ability to work on plays or even create some. I'm excited to see what the Guys at 2K do ... and uhh check out my 2K9 Wish ...

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...2k-please.html

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First off no offense taken. But the links were for luv mist who asked for info on Live Dynasty mode. I don't care for it, it was just a link of info for him. I have Live 08 and 2k8. So I can make fair judgement on which is better. And the franchise mode in 2k is dry and needs to be updated. That was the point in discussion. And the links were just for comparison on why 2k needs to turn up the amp! Nothing more or less. So you guessed wrong, I don't care about interviews info wasn't for me. Read my previous post to his on page 1.

I'm agreeing with the article as well, I just want 2k to do better and truly improve! So far we are going to game 4 of Next Gen from them and I for once want it to seem Next gen, not like a simple upgrade from regular xbox.
 
# 18 richmo @ 06/13/08 12:20 PM
I'd be so happy if the AI was smartened up. Trading, off-season signings, drafting, and all that.
 
# 19 wildcatchild @ 06/13/08 12:38 PM
Will NBA 2K9 allow for us to import College Hoops 2K8 draft classes into the game? If not, I must ask, what is the point of buying NBA 2K9 if I have to start an Association with made-up players??? NBA 2K8 is close enough to a sim to quench my basketball fix until EA completely overhauls Live and March Madness!!!

WCC
 
# 20 X*Cell @ 06/13/08 05:06 PM
setting up practicing and running team drills is the most useless and annoying thing in Franchise Mode... outside sprucing up the ol' Association Mode, if those features I just mentioned are gone next year, the mode will be 10x better.
 

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