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MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

Last year, you “Lived the Dream.” This year you experienced your “Prelude” to greatness. Both of these modes in Visual Concepts’ NBA 2K franchise were supposed to acclimate and immerse you into the game’s premier mode, MyCareer. Both years had you assume a player whose visage and role you could create, but whose persona was already determined via the story mode crafted by Visual Concepts. I’m not here to talk about the merits of last year’s “movie of the week” presentation (personally, I liked it) or this year’s evolved version that grants you much more control over your player during your rookie NBA season.

I’m here to talk about something else. Just like last year, your guy. You. The President of basketball, aka Pres, flat out SUCKS!

I was really excited to load up the Prelude this year. It took the most exciting things about last year’s attempt and removed a lot of the perceived contrived portions about Freq, his “twin” sister and his troubled entourage. You start at the end of your high school basketball career showing your mentor and high school coach, Washington Falls, your highlight reel. You are a high school All-American, the number one recruit in the country. You pick your college, but everyone knows you’re too good to stay there more than your mandatory freshman year. Then you get to upgrade Pres’ attributes for the first time to discover you’re rated...55!? Which country was I the top recruit in, Angola?

All of the commentary casts Pres as the second coming. A leader destined for greatness the same way as Carmelo Anthony, who also brought his college program to the championship his freshman year. However, you, as the “President of Basketball,” have difficulty finishing a layup or sinking a free throw. Opposing players run circles around you. By the time you're drafted five games later, you're lucky if you've earned enough Virtual Currency (VC) to have raised him a couple attribute points. You wind up drafted as a one-and-done transcendent player who is (conservatively) 20 points below his contemporaries (you also might end up going very low in the draft, which is also awkward for your status).

There is a way, of course, to make Pres better right away. It involves spending extra money on VC to “juice” your way to mediocrity. To date I’ve spent 40 dollars on VC. I bought the Legends edition of the game that included 30,000 in VC (approximately $10 USD value) which cost $79.99. Then I bought 75,000 VC in-game for 20 bucks. With 105,000 VC, Pres catapulted from 55 to 82.

I assume the point of making MyCareer is to immerse the player in the world of an up and coming professional basketball player. After all, the cutscenes are full of recognizable faces interacting with your virtual avatar and performing all sorts of activities with you. The problem begins when you attempt to approximate NBA basketball at the burgeoning superstar level, only to fall way short.

I spent almost 100 dollars to get my player to a level where it makes sense that he’s receiving endorsement deals every other day. Many people can’t afford to spend that much on one game. And either way, no player should ever have to spend that kind of money on something like this. As I see it, the only reason to make your player start so low is to push you to spend real dollars to buy VC. Wouldn’t it make sense from a immersion -- and moral -- standpoint to start your player with a rating in at least the 70s? If he’s the number one basketball recruit in the number one basketball country in the world, wouldn’t it make sense that he’s at least as good as the other guys getting drafted in his NBA draft class?

I mean I had barely made it to December of my rookie year, and I had already received endorsement deals from Gatorade, Foot Locker, 2K, Mountain Dew and Tissot. Plus, I had a shoe deal. I had only started one game and was averaging just over 10 points a game. These aren’t numbers that garner major endorsement deals. Beyond that, if I only bought the game and used no extra VC except for what I earned through gameplay, I’m under the impression I would have still been offered most of those deals, if not all of them. Bye immersion.

It’s really a shame that the desire to capitalize monetarily on a flawed system was more important than fixing said system to increase its realism. If I wasn’t spending all that VC on attributes, I probably would have still spent it on something else with the game, like accessories for Pres or stuff for MyCourt. The difference would be that I’d be happy about spending it there.


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# 41 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by StubbyStan
Sometimes the scout miss. The difference between real life Kwame Brown and virtual life 'Pres' is that the commentary still paints Pres as a transformative player who is weeks away, at best, from being a top 10 player within the current league. That's really not the case as you're playing.

As always, thanks for reading and commenting on the piece! I really appreciate it!
Here's the thing too, I'm under the impression, that any player drafted in the 1st round... their agent, friends, family, and themselves really believe they're going to have a great career. So the narrative is more often than not, there.

The other thing, it IS a video game, so the game is designed for the player to have the experience and the excitement that they're going to be the NEXT BIG THING. Because it's a video game experience to entice and excite the gamer.

To the people that buy this game ONLY for the MYCAREER GAME MODE... I understand your frustration.

But there is no shortage of VC.
It is given to you in every game mode.

If you play a MyLeague game, about 1000 VC. If you play a MyGM game, that's about 1000 VC. Oh you accomplished a goal by your owner, here's some more VC, if you simmed your whole season and hit some goals, have some more instant VC. If you play MyTEAM, here's 1000 VC. If you play Blacktop, here's some VC. You want to just [i]PlayNow? Here's 1000 VC. Online MyLeague with your friends, here's another 1000 VC per game.

Oh you pre-ordered? Here's 5000 (minimum) VC

And for every game you play in MyCareer, here's 400-900 VC.

You get VC by playing 2k17, and you can spend it however, and wherever you want.

You can save a bunch of VC and use it all on your MyPlayer if you want before you even play an NBA game.

There's no shortage of VC if you're enjoying the game as a whole.
 
# 42 KingStian @ 10/03/16 08:19 PM
What some people need to realize is that earning VC is different for a lot of people. Some can earn it pretty fast because they play on Hall of Fame difficulty and get a X amount multiplier added to the game score, but not everyone is good enough at the game to play it at that difficulty. If you are that poor bastard who has to play the game on rookie you only get half of the VC you earned for a game. But the attribute points cost the same for the guys playing on HoF as the guys playing om rookie. The grind is therefore so much bigger for the guys who aren't that skilled at the game.

I have always thought it was really stupid that everyone around you reacts and threats you as if you and the second coming of Jesus and were the lovechild of Michael Jordan and LeBron James, while your skills are closer to Michael Bolton and Etta James. Of course you shouldn't be a 95 overall player right out of college, but you're supposed to be the potential future franchise player everyone around you is talking about. What player has ever been talked about as a future franchise player while being the least skilled player in his draft class? A player talked about the way "Pres" is presented should be in the 75 to 80 range coming into the NBA, not a borderline D-League player.

VC has for years been a dark cloud over the 2K series. It is designed to make us spend real money for virtual sleeves and shoes. I'm pretty sure the teams equipment managers provides each player with all the headbands and arm sleeves he may need, so why do we have to spend VC on it? Not to mention the fact that they never can get colors right for the team options. If you play as the Lakers you can bet your wife and children on that if the team color for you is yellow the team color for the rest of the team is purple. These are the small details that break the immersion. Shoes are the worst sinner in the VC hell 2K insist on putting us through every year. A custom colorway pair of Adidas shoes I made would cost me 7500 VC. So if I wanted to make a home and away option, you know since there in most cases are different base colors used home and away, this would cost me 15.000 VC. It's just ridiculous.

The one VC related thing they did back down at a couple of years ago was the franchise mode, which was totally unplayable because of the VC walls they put in place. Then you had to "upgrade" your GM to be able to do a simple thing such as make a lineup change.
 
# 43 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KingStian
What some people need to realize is that earning VC is different for a lot of people. Some can earn it pretty fast because they play on Hall of Fame difficulty and get a X amount multiplier added to the game score, but not everyone is good enough at the game to play it at that difficulty. If you are that poor bastard who has to play the game on rookie you only get half of the VC you earned for a game. But the attribute points cost the same for the guys playing on HoF as the guys playing om rookie. The grind is therefore so much bigger for the guys who aren't that skilled at the game.

I have always thought it was really stupid that everyone around you reacts and threats you as if you and the second coming of Jesus and were the lovechild of Michael Jordan and LeBron James, while your skills are closer to Michael Bolton and Etta James. Of course you shouldn't be a 95 overall player right out of college, but you're supposed to be the potential future franchise player everyone around you is talking about. What player has ever been talked about as a future franchise player while being the least skilled player in his draft class? A player talked about the way "Pres" is presented should be in the 75 to 80 range coming into the NBA, not a borderline D-League player.

VC has for years been a dark cloud over the 2K series. It is designed to make us spend real money for virtual sleeves and shoes. I'm pretty sure the teams equipment managers provides each player with all the headbands and arm sleeves he may need, so why do we have to spend VC on it? Not to mention the fact that they never can get colors right for the team options. If you play as the Lakers you can bet your wife and children on that if the team color for you is yellow the team color for the rest of the team is purple. These are the small details that break the immersion. Shoes are the worst sinner in the VC hell 2K insist on putting us through every year. A custom colorway pair of Adidas shoes I made would cost me 7500 VC. So if I wanted to make a home and away option, you know since there in most cases are different base colors used home and away, this would cost me 15.000 VC. It's just ridiculous.

The one VC related thing they did back down at a couple of years ago was the franchise mode, which was totally unplayable because of the VC walls they put in place. Then you had to "upgrade" your GM to be able to do a simple thing such as make a lineup change.
In that case, there isn't any incentive for any game to have extras that need to be earned or attained.

Call of Duty or Battlefield? Your military would supply you with the armament you need right? So walk into battle with whichever gun and armor you choose, it needs to be made be available to all then.
 
# 44 Soze Mucky @ 10/03/16 08:38 PM
i dont even bother playing a new player without buying 75,000 vc to get him to a decent level. another thing that pissed me off today is i got drafted to the raptors as a point guard, so me and justice young will be replacing lowry and derozan as starters rofl... such bull****.
 
# 45 nuckles2k2 @ 10/03/16 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
In that case, there isn't any incentive for any game to have extras that need to be earned or attained.

Call of Duty or Battlefield? Your military would supply you with the armament you need right? So walk into battle with whichever gun and armor you choose, it needs to be made be available to all then.
It really is a little ridiculous the way "Prez" is hyped early on tho. The whole "60 seconds with Jason Richman" or whatever it's called...for a guy that has the skill set of a late 2nd rounder, in a draft class with Simmons, Ingram, & Dunn... Why does anyone know who "Prez" is? He'd project to have a more Jeremy Lin "outta no where" type arrival than someone who's being hyped. Not covered entering into the draft. Hyped, media coverage talking about his signing day decision coming out of HS -- for a dude that can't dribble, can't shoot, could barely run, got the vertical of someone sitting in a bean bag chair..

C'mon lol. You serious?
 
# 46 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
It really is a little ridiculous the way "Prez" is hyped early on tho. The whole "60 seconds with Jason Richman" or whatever it's called...for a guy that has the skill set of a late 2nd rounder, in a draft class with Simmons, Ingram, & Dunn... Why does anyone know who "Prez" is? He'd project to have a more Jeremy Lin "outta no where" type arrival than someone who's being hyped. Not covered entering into the draft. Hyped, media coverage talking about his signing day decision coming out of HS -- for a dude that can't dribble, can't shoot, could barely run, got the vertical of someone sitting in a bean bag chair..

C'mon lol. You serious?
Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.

Andrew Wiggins: toted as the "Next LeBron James"

1 year later Ben Simmons still in college called the "Next LeBron James", then taken #1 in the draft.

No one knows how these guys are going to turn out, hell Simmons just broke his foot we don't know if he'll end up being very good at all.

The media is never shy about giving a guy NBA Great comparisons and trying to find the next big thing. Most often the media falls on its face, as does that player.

And again, for being drafted as a 55 overall, for all the hype Pres gets, without being able to run, shoot, dribble, layup... you can still by the end of your ROOKIE SEASON finish with an average 27ppg 7 assists and 8 Rebounds with probably 3 steals and 2 blocks. Lol it's a game, your overall doesn't dictate everything.
 
# 47 nuckles2k2 @ 10/03/16 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.
Yet they both had hoops skills & showed potential.

Like I said, your MyCareer dude starts with attributes in the 40s. Who's making a documentary about the kid who can't dribble, shoot, board, or play D, in HS?
 
# 48 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
Yet they both had hoops skills & showed potential.

Like I said, your MyCareer dude starts with attributes in the 40s. Who's making a documentary about the kid who can't dribble, shoot, board, or play D, in HS?
And like I said, it's video game, so you can still nearly average a triple double your rookie season as a 55 overall lol
 
# 49 nuckles2k2 @ 10/03/16 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
And like I said, it's video game, so you can still nearly average a triple double your rookie season as a 55 overall lol
Title of the thread is "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" - seems like somewhere along the lines you got away from that.

All I'm asking is "when does an unskilled(according to the ratings) basketball player get noticed out of HS the way Pres does?"

You started talking about Wiggins -- clearly has basketball talent & potential. Came into the league athletic af. Came in with his jumper surprisingly further along than most thought it would be.

Then Simmons -- comes into the league with a combo of size, athleticism, court vision, and handling the ball, that *can* be something special for years to come.

And then there's Pres. No discernible basketball talent that separates him from your average joe you'd find competitively hooping on the weekends, maybe even in your amateur leagues strewn across the country...but in 2K, he's the next big thing. The nation wants to know which school he's picking. Coach K wants...no...NEEDS him on Team USA.

And that's a realistic package...

Either have the attributes match the story, or ditch the story & let us make our own destiny.

Don't tell us we're the next coming of Uncle Drew while possessing the basketball skills of an older dude who's nieces & nephews call him "uncle drew"
 
# 50 Bernte @ 10/03/16 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MMChrisS
Last year, you “Lived the Dream.” This year you experienced your “Prelude” to greatness. Both of these modes in Visual Concepts’ NBA 2K franchise were supposed to acclimate and immerse you into the game’s premier mode, MyCareer. Both years had you assume a player whose visage and role you could create, but whose persona was already determined via the story mode crafted by Visual Concepts. I’m not here to talk about the merits of last year’s “movie of the week” presentation (personally, I liked it) or this year’s evolved version that grants you much more control over your player during your rookie NBA season.

I’m here to talk about something else. Just like last year, your guy. You. The President of basketball, aka Pres, flat out SUCKS!

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that definitely reminds me of something...
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...put-words.html
 
# 51 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
Title of the thread is "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" - seems like somewhere along the lines you got away from that.

All I'm asking is "when does an unskilled(according to the ratings) basketball player get noticed out of HS the way Pres does?"

You started talking about Wiggins -- clearly has basketball talent & potential. Came into the league athletic af. Came in with his jumper surprisingly further along than most thought it would be.

Then Simmons -- comes into the league with a combo of size, athleticism, court vision, and handling the ball, that *can* be something special for years to come.

And then there's Pres. No discernible basketball talent that separates him from your average joe you'd find competitively hooping on the weekends, maybe even in your amateur leagues strewn across the country...but in 2K, he's the next big thing. The nation wants to know which school he's picking. Coach K wants...no...NEEDS him on Team USA.

And that's a realistic package...

Either have the attributes match the story, or ditch the story & let us make our own destiny.

Don't tell us we're the next coming of Uncle Drew while possessing the basketball skills of an older dude who's nieces & nephews call him "uncle drew"
I get where everyone is coming from, but "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" is going to always be around.

Case in point, you can average 30/5/5 just by getting starting minutes over the course of your rookie season as a 55-65 overall. That's unrealistic.

If we come in the league as let's say a 75, good skill set but tremendous upside... well... that just means we can now average 40/10/10 lol. And win the next MVP, FMVP, and Rookie of the Year and do the same for the next 12 years for 12 rings in 12 Finals appearances without even having to increase our overall at all, and the more we add on our skills and badges... the more all of the above happens lol. And that's a realism problem.

Being a Tireless Scorer having 35 ppg then you get the double team but your GOLD Dimer badge let's you hit up your SG in the corner for your 11th assist and the next time you do it your GOLD Hustle Rebounder let's you snag the rebound for your 12th rebound and your Scrapper badge let's you put it bag in for 2 more points with the foul... lol realism problem. Which is why I like the Archetypes if they can find a happy community balance.

Unless 2K drastically changes the game, MyCareer is going to have a Realism Problem. But it's a game, so they have balance fun and challenge, but also let the user do what they want.

All in all, give me Roster Edit and Sliders for MyCareer, and we're all good lol.
 
# 52 Streets @ 10/03/16 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.

Andrew Wiggins: toted as the "Next LeBron James"

1 year later Ben Simmons still in college called the "Next LeBron James", then taken #1 in the draft.

No one knows how these guys are going to turn out, hell Simmons just broke his foot we don't know if he'll end up being very good at all.

The media is never shy about giving a guy NBA Great comparisons and trying to find the next big thing. Most often the media falls on its face, as does that player.

And again, for being drafted as a 55 overall, for all the hype Pres gets, without being able to run, shoot, dribble, layup... you can still by the end of your ROOKIE SEASON finish with an average 27ppg 7 assists and 8 Rebounds with probably 3 steals and 2 blocks. Lol it's a game, your overall doesn't dictate everything.
I think this is key. My player is a A 6'5" playmaking poing guard currently rated a 69 after 25 games.

Yet I'm averaging 23 points, 8 reb, 13 ast, 3 stl, 3 to, shooting 55/42/75.

I just take good high quality shots and try to set up my teammates. Despite my "rating" this guy is worthy of the hype. Won a couple player of the weeks, one player of the month and am first in all star voting for east back court players.

I'm playing on All Star but if you want to dominate, do like my gf who doesn't watch basketball and has never played 2K and put it on Rookie. She's averaging 29 points, 12 assists, 7 steals, lol. Was drafted 2nd to the Lakers too. Why is the overall number important? Are people to proud to put it on rookie?
 
# 53 335TDC @ 10/03/16 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik

If we come in the league as let's say a 75, good skill set but tremendous upside... well... that just means we can now average 40/10/10 lol. And win the next MVP, FMVP, and Rookie of the Year and do the same for the next 12 years for 12 rings in 12 Finals appearances without even having to increase our overall at all, and the more we add on our skills and badges... the more all of the above happens lol. And that's a realism problem.
Point well taken, but I think it would encourage a HUGE portion of the offline community to actual role play their archetype instead of grinding for VC to get your guy to where he should already have been. The unrealistic nature of the starting rating encourages unrealistic gameplay/stats -- they feed off each other. If my guy, drafted 7th, came in in the low 70's I would very much role play him.

But 2k won't cash in on VC with role players -- they're targeting the MyPark online max-stat ballers. Tying your player to that is a HUGE problem for offline sim players like me.
 
# 54 lordfr33 @ 10/04/16 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by laoala
it's embarrassing that your team gets you as well as their original first round pic.

three year legacy oversight.

so dumb.
does it break the game for you?
 
# 55 trandoanhung1991 @ 10/04/16 01:55 AM
If you, with starter minutes, on HoF or SS, get anywhere more than 10/5/5 average for your rookie season WITHOUT cheesing or abusing the ******** defense and actually play proper sim ball, I'd be impressed.

Oh and also no ball hogging either. That's too easy.

Yes I get it, you can ballhog and cheese your way to high stats, but that's not basketball. It's been that way since forever. But that's not how it should be, at all. That's just abusing broken game mechanics.

This would've been so easily solved if they just continued from last year and allow us to play full seasons of high school and college, and also let us choose when to enter the league. If you played like a god and got a ton of VCs, you can be a one-and-done guy. But if you played badly in HS and college, you might have to stay for 2, 3 or even 4 years just to have enough VC to be a role player in the NBA.

I can assure you, no one who has the basketball abilities of a great high schooler will be coined the next big thing.
 
# 56 chanedw @ 10/04/16 02:27 AM
The entire mode does not make sense, a top prospect being a 59 rated overall (lowest of all first rounders), being a FA on the first year, a top prospect with ability to ask for a trade, or a trade WITH a teammate (both being considered of value to the franchise).

A lot of people say "they never FORCE you to pay for VC, you can grind for it", but a first rounder, with the storyline that they are forcing upon you, you'd expect them to let you start out with an above average rating, so you can actually perform on the court and grind for your VC "within" the MyCareer mode (I play solely offline with MyCareer, I do not touch MyPark or Pro-AM).

It is what it is, I understand that it is a business, but to make it so brutally clear that it's all about the money for VC... then to have so many issues with MyCareer (e.g. nonsense double team, agreed meeting not appearing in the calendar)... It might be a good idea to skip a year of 2K next year...
 
# 57 lordfr33 @ 10/04/16 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Simhead23
Mycareer is the worst mode in the game. Ever since 16 it's been unplayable. I just use it to grind badges. Screw the storyline. I don't get cutscenes and im happy as hell cause their long, repetitive, and lack substance. I know this game is technically a kids.game, but man it's cheesy.

2k15 was the best mycareer imo. No scripted storyline, besides you being undrafted. But, it made sense cause your iverall was low. Funny thing was it wasn't.even thatt low. It was a 65! Meanwhile frez and prez are 55 and people view them like jesus christ in the flesh, even tho an undrafted rookie can leave them in zip.

Plus, you actually interacted with your teammates, and you can form a big 3, and talk trash to real nba players. Smh take me back.
lmao now 2k15 was the best. i could have sworn people talked abt same things that people are crying about now back then
 
# 58 MrWrestling3 @ 10/04/16 06:27 AM
I just noticed yesterday, in one of the cutscenes Denver Levins says he is rated a 65 OVR in 2K.

By this logic, your guy who supposed to be the next Kobe/Lebron/MJ comes in considerably worse than the second round guy who is considered to be pretty bad at basketball; that makes no sense at all.
 
# 59 Junior Moe @ 10/04/16 08:34 AM
I honestly don't care about VC. I don't do online myCareer stuff so it's whatever. I just play the story. I will say that I wasn't able to get into this years story. The practice and stuff on your calendar is tedious. I don't want to play against Jimmy Butler on my court. Just let me play the NBA games and see the story unfold. I wasnt the biggest fan of Living the Dream but I finished it and it was entertaining. This year I haven't made it to the meeting with the shoe company person. I don't really play for "realism". I have MyLeague for that. But I do want an engaging, fun and unique experience. I don't feel like MyCareer hit it this year for me.
 
# 60 El_Poopador @ 10/04/16 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
Here's the thing too, I'm under the impression, that any player drafted in the 1st round... their agent, friends, family, and themselves really believe they're going to have a great career. So the narrative is more often than not, there.

The other thing, it IS a video game, so the game is designed for the player to have the experience and the excitement that they're going to be the NEXT BIG THING. Because it's a video game experience to entice and excite the gamer.

To the people that buy this game ONLY for the MYCAREER GAME MODE... I understand your frustration.

But there is no shortage of VC.
It is given to you in every game mode.

If you play a MyLeague game, about 1000 VC. If you play a MyGM game, that's about 1000 VC. Oh you accomplished a goal by your owner, here's some more VC, if you simmed your whole season and hit some goals, have some more instant VC. If you play MyTEAM, here's 1000 VC. If you play Blacktop, here's some VC. You want to just [i]PlayNow? Here's 1000 VC. Online MyLeague with your friends, here's another 1000 VC per game.

Oh you pre-ordered? Here's 5000 (minimum) VC

And for every game you play in MyCareer, here's 400-900 VC.

You get VC by playing 2k17, and you can spend it however, and wherever you want.

You can save a bunch of VC and use it all on your MyPlayer if you want before you even play an NBA game.

There's no shortage of VC if you're enjoying the game as a whole.
Sure, you can earn VC in every game you play. But it still requires several hours worth of playing to earn enough to make your player halfway decent. So if someone, like myself, doesn't have more than 5-10 hours per week to play video games, it's going to take me well over a month to earn enough VC just to make my PG fast enough to outrun a center on the break. That's assuming I don't want to also buy any accessories or different clothes for the unskippable cutscenes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
In that case, there isn't any incentive for any game to have extras that need to be earned or attained.

Call of Duty or Battlefield? Your military would supply you with the armament you need right? So walk into battle with whichever gun and armor you choose, it needs to be made be available to all then.
The difference is that a headband or arm sleeve doesn't alter your abilities on the court. Having different weapons, armor, etc. in those games affects how you might play. You can have the same abilities as everyone else from the beginning. Imagine if you had to play Battlefield or COD for a month moving at half the speed of everybody else, you can't throw your grenades as far, and your shots don't always go where you aim them. That's your starting player in 2k's career mode.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
And like I said, it's video game, so you can still nearly average a triple double your rookie season as a 55 overall lol
You still can't outrun a lumbering big as a PG from the start. I have a playmaker PG, and routinely get chased down on fast breaks. And that's only one attribute that's not where it should be to start.

I had a play last night where I was bringing the ball up the court, and Justice was wide open at the elbow. I tried to pass the ball from half court to the elbow, and threw it out of bounds. There were no defenders anywhere near myself or Justice, I didn't try a flashy pass, it was just a normal pass to an open teammate. I could make that pass 100/100 times in real life, and I am nowhere near the skill level or athleticism of an NBA player. But in the game, where I'm supposed to be a top 3 overall draft pick and the next big thing, I threw it out of bounds because as a playmaking PG, my passing ratings are too low to make that pass.

Yes, I can cheese my way to a triple double, but I would rather play realistic basketball and not have to be the facilitator for every single possession while I'm on the court. I would also like to be able to take advantage of a mismatch on the perimeter if the defense puts a slow big man on me without relying on screens or glitches.
 


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