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MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

Last year, you “Lived the Dream.” This year you experienced your “Prelude” to greatness. Both of these modes in Visual Concepts’ NBA 2K franchise were supposed to acclimate and immerse you into the game’s premier mode, MyCareer. Both years had you assume a player whose visage and role you could create, but whose persona was already determined via the story mode crafted by Visual Concepts. I’m not here to talk about the merits of last year’s “movie of the week” presentation (personally, I liked it) or this year’s evolved version that grants you much more control over your player during your rookie NBA season.

I’m here to talk about something else. Just like last year, your guy. You. The President of basketball, aka Pres, flat out SUCKS!

I was really excited to load up the Prelude this year. It took the most exciting things about last year’s attempt and removed a lot of the perceived contrived portions about Freq, his “twin” sister and his troubled entourage. You start at the end of your high school basketball career showing your mentor and high school coach, Washington Falls, your highlight reel. You are a high school All-American, the number one recruit in the country. You pick your college, but everyone knows you’re too good to stay there more than your mandatory freshman year. Then you get to upgrade Pres’ attributes for the first time to discover you’re rated...55!? Which country was I the top recruit in, Angola?

All of the commentary casts Pres as the second coming. A leader destined for greatness the same way as Carmelo Anthony, who also brought his college program to the championship his freshman year. However, you, as the “President of Basketball,” have difficulty finishing a layup or sinking a free throw. Opposing players run circles around you. By the time you're drafted five games later, you're lucky if you've earned enough Virtual Currency (VC) to have raised him a couple attribute points. You wind up drafted as a one-and-done transcendent player who is (conservatively) 20 points below his contemporaries (you also might end up going very low in the draft, which is also awkward for your status).

There is a way, of course, to make Pres better right away. It involves spending extra money on VC to “juice” your way to mediocrity. To date I’ve spent 40 dollars on VC. I bought the Legends edition of the game that included 30,000 in VC (approximately $10 USD value) which cost $79.99. Then I bought 75,000 VC in-game for 20 bucks. With 105,000 VC, Pres catapulted from 55 to 82.

I assume the point of making MyCareer is to immerse the player in the world of an up and coming professional basketball player. After all, the cutscenes are full of recognizable faces interacting with your virtual avatar and performing all sorts of activities with you. The problem begins when you attempt to approximate NBA basketball at the burgeoning superstar level, only to fall way short.

I spent almost 100 dollars to get my player to a level where it makes sense that he’s receiving endorsement deals every other day. Many people can’t afford to spend that much on one game. And either way, no player should ever have to spend that kind of money on something like this. As I see it, the only reason to make your player start so low is to push you to spend real dollars to buy VC. Wouldn’t it make sense from a immersion -- and moral -- standpoint to start your player with a rating in at least the 70s? If he’s the number one basketball recruit in the number one basketball country in the world, wouldn’t it make sense that he’s at least as good as the other guys getting drafted in his NBA draft class?

I mean I had barely made it to December of my rookie year, and I had already received endorsement deals from Gatorade, Foot Locker, 2K, Mountain Dew and Tissot. Plus, I had a shoe deal. I had only started one game and was averaging just over 10 points a game. These aren’t numbers that garner major endorsement deals. Beyond that, if I only bought the game and used no extra VC except for what I earned through gameplay, I’m under the impression I would have still been offered most of those deals, if not all of them. Bye immersion.

It’s really a shame that the desire to capitalize monetarily on a flawed system was more important than fixing said system to increase its realism. If I wasn’t spending all that VC on attributes, I probably would have still spent it on something else with the game, like accessories for Pres or stuff for MyCourt. The difference would be that I’d be happy about spending it there.


Member Comments
# 21 scottyp180 @ 10/03/16 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by victorkingchamp
The biggest immersion breaker for me is the way money is handled in the mode. Clothing items/shoes shouldn't cost VC! It takes a lot of the fun out of the mode for sneaker and jersey heads like myself. I would love to wear all of my custom shoes but I cant afford them even though I'm an NBA player with multiple endorsements?? I have a gatorade endorsement yet I still can't afford an armsleeve.

I wish there was a completely offline option for MYCareer without VC. I don't play online. VC kills a lot of the fun for me.
This was annoying last year mainly because items were ridiculously priced. I wanted certain gear (head band, arms sleeve, socks, etc) but didn't want to waste VC on cosmetic items when I could put it towards actually improving my player.
 
# 22 BBallcoach @ 10/03/16 03:49 PM
The biggest issue and why there is a realism problem is, they connect mycareer to the the park and pro-am. They need to separate the park and pro-am from mycareer it's why we can't have a realistic mode. Because they have to try and curb people from making their guy good too fast. And to do that they attach vc to the attributes, accessories and clothes your player wears. Where as if it was an offline mode, they could treat it like a real rpg mode and use xp, or do what fifa and nhl does and improve your player in the attributes you succeed in organically. But the root of.the problem is that the mode is connected to two online modes which don't allow it to be realistic.
 
# 23 Finepanther @ 10/03/16 04:30 PM
2k completely overstated the branching aspect of the story line. We're all basically headed down the same road with this story no matter what we do including those of us that got traded WITHOUT Justice but still get cut-scenes with him like he's on the team. As always, take their marketing cut it in half and that's the game you're getting.
 
# 24 nuckles2k2 @ 10/03/16 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Finepanther
2k completely overstated the branching aspect of the story line. We're all basically headed down the same road with this story no matter what we do including those of us that got traded WITHOUT Justice but still get cut-scenes with him like he's on the team. As always, take their marketing cut it in half and that's the game you're getting.
That's most likely an error, but it does feel like we're all basically headed down the same path.

Those that stick it out with Justice get one story, and those that get traded (on a rookie deal...mid-season...) without him *are "supposed" (allegedly) to have a different story*

Keep this discussion going tho. Hopefully 2K sees it, & decides to split the modes to give both demographics the best experience possible for their mode (MyCareer vs Park/Pro-Am)
 
# 25 Vroman @ 10/03/16 04:55 PM
Bigger problem is how game mode is stingy with VC rewards early on. Starting out as 55ovr without having vc is a nightmare. Not every free to play video game is so punishing to somebody not buying virtual currency/items etc.
 
# 26 rsole24 @ 10/03/16 04:59 PM
I do agree with what is being said, 100%... but, I haven't spent any real money on VC and my player is a 78 overall, and I'm only on week 2 of the season. I just practice with Denver when he asks to come over, I have only skipped 1 or 2 practices. When I go to the practices, I always play whatever drill, 1 on 1, 2 on 2, etc. the other players want. I never say no, just keep Doin' work. Haha. I also run sprints while I'm at practice. So, if you put in work and actually play at least 2 hours a day, then you'll earn VC quickish.
 
# 27 cavsfan2 @ 10/03/16 05:05 PM
Yeah, the my career grind was just too much this year. I gave up after a few games. Not fun at all.
 
# 28 celtsfan1275 @ 10/03/16 05:15 PM
MyCareer has a monetizing problem. I hav no problem with stat caps, I think they are fine and add a layer of realism to the game. But these are just too restrictive this year. Sure players have roles on teams but bball is unpredictable which is why a lot of players have versatility to their game. There are slashers who could shoot 3s and athletic pgs who could dunk.

NBA 2k14 had perfect stat caps imo. But this year is just garbage I play mycareer to feel like Lebron James, not Javale Mcgee. You cant build me up as a top prospect or more importantly have me leading the league in stats and not allow me to have a higher overall than everyone else in the league.

and I know you want us to buy those boosts but it ain't happening 2K. I haven't spent a dime on your vc scam and I will never spend a single cent bc it's clear as a company that you don't care anymore.

Glad I didn't touch the garbage that is 2K17 this year
 
# 29 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 05:16 PM
This draft thing is really ridiculous. MyCAREER... not MyNBASuperstar. It's a career, how your career plays out is entirely UP TO YOU.


2011 Draft, widely considered a great draft: 30 picks, arguably only 4 of which are considered Franchise players.

Kyrie Irving, Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson.

13% of this draft.


2010 Draft: only 3 players worth calling Franchise players.

Paul George, John Wall, Demarcus Cousins.

10% of this draft.


Just because you are in the first round DOES NOT MEAN some of these players are not a 55/65/75 "overall" if you were to rate them. Kwami Brown is an excellent example on his own.

You have to PUT IN WORK to be a GREAT PLAYER. It is not, at all, unrealistic to be a crap player drafted in the 1st round. IN FACT, it's actually THE MOST REALISTIC to be crap and drafted in the 1st round.


Got drafted 1st overall? Congrats, you're Anthony Bennett.
Got drafted 2nd overall? Congrats, you're Derrick Williams.
Got drafted 2nd overall again? Congrats, you're Hasheem Thabeet.
Got drafted 2nd overall AGAIN? Awesome, you're Michael Beasley.
Got drafted 3rd overall? Awesome, you're OJ Mayo.
Got drafted 6th overall? Congrats, you're Johnny Flynn.
Got drafted 6th overall again? Congrats, you're Ekpe Udoh.

If you want to be good, put in the work. Practice. You can still average 25/7/9 by the end of your rookie season EVEN IF you're a 65 overall lol.
 
# 30 lordfr33 @ 10/03/16 05:18 PM
So what about the people who didnt spend any money on VC but still could upgrade their players to 80+ OVR just like you did? Should they make a thread crying about something that is their own choice? i dont get why people keep crying abt vc this vc that, when the game really doesnt push you to buy.
 
# 31 DC @ 10/03/16 05:40 PM
If it was realistic, people would cry
 
# 32 victorkingchamp @ 10/03/16 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lordfr33
So what about the people who didnt spend any money on VC but still could upgrade their players to 80+ OVR just like you did? Should they make a thread crying about something that is their own choice? i dont get why people keep crying abt vc this vc that, when the game really doesnt push you to buy.
I've never purchased VC and my player is currently rated 87. I don't have a complaint about VC for attributes.
My issue is that I have no interest in the Online portion of the mode so the way it's currently set up makes it not as fun for me.

I just want to wear custom kicks without it costing me 7,000 VC.
 
# 33 cavsfan2 @ 10/03/16 05:58 PM
I mean, it's great that some of you have improved your players a lot, but that requires ALOT of play time. A lot of people don't have time to put in 2+ hours a day on a video game to accumulate virtual currency so you can enjoy the game that you already paid 60 dollars for.

All they have to do is either A) have us start with a higher overall and make progression a little slower or B) Give an option to separate my career from online modes like MyPark. I have no interest in that mode but I'm still locked in to the same restrictions as those who do play it.
 
# 34 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 06:07 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Adjust your difficulty to a fun level to play on.

OR, 2K could let us edit rosters and sliders in MyCareer, which would be THE GREATEST THING EVER.
 
# 35 Yuss @ 10/03/16 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DC
If it was realistic, people would cry
Yeah, 2k tries to find a balance between realism and fun factor for my career. Everything can't be by the book the way it occurs in the NBA.

For example, being a 55 overall lottery pick is not realistic however going from a 55 d-leaguer to a 95 overall who is on par with Curry, Lebron, etc in one year is also not realistic but 2k allows you to do that.

Another example a 1st round rookie getting released after his first year unrealistic. However 2k lets you be a free agent after one year to pick any team you want to play with.

If 2K told gamers that they had to play 4 to 5 years to reach their full potential, or that they could not change teams until their rookie contract expired people would go ballistic.
 
# 36 StubbyStan @ 10/03/16 06:15 PM
Really happy that my piece has generated such a lively discussion! Thanks so much, everyone for reading!
 
# 37 mcpats @ 10/03/16 06:31 PM
I love when people say 'put in the work' on a video game. A $60 sticker price should give you a player with a base rating that at least matches the narrative being told. Show me an example of a lottery pick that was rated below 60 their rookie year in 2k
 
# 38 MoodMuzik @ 10/03/16 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcpats
I love when people say 'put in the work' on a video game. A $60 sticker price should give you a player with a base rating that at least matches the narrative being told. Show me an example of a lottery pick that was rated below 60 their rookie year in 2k
#1 pick Kwame Brown's rookie stats:

4.5ppg/3.5rebs/0.8assists/ 38.7 FG% and they played him less than 15 minutes per game lol

Real life scenario, where the 2k community would lose their minds over. Franchise player, certainly played like a below 60 rated player
 
# 39 HenryClay1844 @ 10/03/16 06:38 PM
Cognitive dissonance. People who make games need to learn what it is.
 
# 40 StubbyStan @ 10/03/16 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik
#1 pick Kwame Brown's rookie stats:

4.5ppg/3.5rebs/0.8assists/ 38.7 FG% and they played him less than 15 minutes per game lol

Real life scenario, where the 2k community would lose their minds over. Franchise player, certainly played like a below 60 rated player
Sometimes the scout miss. The difference between real life Kwame Brown and virtual life 'Pres' is that the commentary still paints Pres as a transformative player who is weeks away, at best, from being a top 10 player within the current league. That's really not the case as you're playing.

As always, thanks for reading and commenting on the piece! I really appreciate it!
 


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