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MLB 2K12 Demo Roundtable

Bishop Tart: Gameplay is not too different from 2K11, but everything just feels a lot more smoother this year: animations, character models, etc. The overall gameplay is also still fun to play if you have always been a fan of the series. As one of the people who still use the classic control option, not much has changed on that end, but to me, that is perfectly acceptable.

Visually, the game looks similar to 2K11, but some of the player models do look better this year. With that said, they are still a step behind those of MLB: The Show. Also, the lighting looks much better this time around when compared to MLB 2K11.

With no commentary included in the demo and very little presentation, it's obviously hard to judge both of those. I just hope they stepped their game up with both to make a more authentic baseball experience -- because we all know the MLB 2K series lacks the presentation value seen in the MLB: The Show franchise.

As the only baseball game of its kind on the Xbox 360, you can't really go wrong with MLB 2K12. The demo does a great job of providing some of the experience you'll have in the full game next week.


The graphics have received a noticeable upgrade this season...the gameplay seems tweaked for sure.

Bo McCready: I really dislike the “OMG ANALOG CONTROLS” wave sweeping sports gaming, but I’ll admit begrudgingly that the analog controls feel good in this game. The power, contact and defensive swings become intuitive quickly, and analog pitching feels more responsive than ever.

The demo doesn’t feel that much different from last year’s effort, but there are a lot of little things I enjoyed. Any baseball game where you can draw a walk against the CPU without altering sliders wins points from me (if that seems ridiculous, remember trying to draw a walk in this series five or six years ago)?

When pitching, your pitch ratings fluctuate up and down depending on how effective you are throwing each one. At first, I loved the feature, as I made Neftali Feliz’s deadly two-seam fastball even more effective with a couple of early strikeouts. But then I induced a routine ground-out with a four-seam fastball and the game registered it as a double, cratering my four-seam rating. Hopefully those little glitches are ironed out before the full game releases.

There’s nothing in this demo that blew me away, but I’m having a good time with it.

Matthew Coe: Seeing as how this is one of my top five most anticipated sports games of 2012, I went into the demo just hoping not to be disappointed. Not only was disappointment not an issue, but I was pleasantly surprised by the implementation of a few of 2K12's new features.

I like the tightened up throw meter. On one occasion, a bunt by Rafael Furcal, catcher Mike Napoli had to really hurry to beat the speedy base runner. I had to make a fast decision and I overthrew the ball. It wound up in right field as it sailed past my first baseman and Furcal's speed got him to third base. The new pitch rating mechanic is well done too. It's not overdone, that I can tell, as I was worried it might be. This one tweak alone will help freshen up the pitching and make it a different experience from 2K11.

Speaking of 2K11, the demo does feel like a very polished version of last year's retail release, and I think that's kind of what 2K Sports was hoping for with the demo release. It doesn't take any steps back or show off any glaring weakness and it does highlight the additions for 2K12 well.

The demo does have a few nagging bugs, like being called out on a close play at first because my runner went into the "rounding the base" animation and a few other quirks that, as Bo said, will hopefully not be in the retail version.

Overall, with a distinct lack of presentation due to demo size, I came away fairly impressed. Not blown away, but not dissuaded from looking forward to the game's release.


MLB 2K12 isn't a huge improvement over 2K11, which may or may not be a good thing for you.

Phil Varckette: I was hopeful that the improvements to the game would be substantial, but unfortunately, in the demo anyway, they seem to me more subtle. This isn't a bad thing. It's what I should have expected in the first place.

The PS3 version seems to have gotten a graphical upgrade from last year, which is certainly a welcome surprise. The swing animations have improved and so has the outfield play. I also noticed more hit variety. It looks like 2K has at least kept their promises as far as gameplay is concerned.

One of the most glaring issues the series has had over recent years is the framerate. This issue is back. Its mostly noticeable on foul balls, but even still there is no excuse for it at this point.

Overall, the demo tells me the retail version will be an improvement over 2K11. Even if its subtle improvements, at least it's getting better.

Mike Kilroy: I was very excited when I downloaded the MLB 2K12 demo. After all, this was supposed to be the year when the title actually lived up to the hype.

Well ... not so fast.

While the demo showcases some mild improvements over previous incarnations, in my opinion, it doesn't do enough. Sure, the animations are smoother and the gameplay seems tighter, but I was still left with a sinking feeling of, 'Oh, no. Not again.' The graphics still seem bland to me and there is still a feeling that the game is just "off."

It's hard to glean a whole lot from a demo, but this one underwhelmed me.


Major League Baseball 2K12 Videos
Member Comments
# 1 Blitzburgh @ 03/01/12 10:36 PM
I agree with what most of you guys have said... I enjoy the demo and it still has its fun factor but the post play animations really hurt the realistic play IMO. Also, as mentioned the player model graphics really need to take a huge leap forward if there is a MLB2k13. That is my biggest disappointment so far with the demo.

I would like to know if there are any major or minor differences that we will see from in the retail version verses the demo? Any ideas? Thanks,Blitz
 
# 2 DetroitStyle @ 03/01/12 10:45 PM
I thought all these comments pretty much summed up my impressions. Very fair, and surprisingly optimistic consider some of the negative banter being thrown around the forums. As always, remember it's JUST a demo and obviously not the final product. Only a few more days to go!
 
# 3 Reggie16 @ 03/02/12 01:45 AM
Cant wait for this game this is my first baseball game since ea mvp baseball w/ johnson on the cover. super stoked to play with my diamondbacks
 
# 4 duhitsrandy @ 03/02/12 01:58 AM
a lot more smoother this year: grammar fail?

but im in the same boat as you guys, i'm not blown away this year by far. but last year i said if they can polish up the bugs and give us a shiny new presentation then i'd buy again. on top of that they added the pitching changes plus variety in hits.

i put in alot of time with 2k11 last year, and if this is as good as it sounds then i'm gonna be satisfied
 
# 5 knighthawksfan @ 03/02/12 05:13 AM
I rather wait for the game too drop but idk if I will pick this title up this year since I am moving out too arizona in a month and 2 days from now.
 
# 6 Miguelito Kache305 @ 03/02/12 07:04 AM
Hey guys!! I remember when I was a kid in the Dominican Republic, playing Baseball for me was not only a hobby but it was everything. I had nothing else to play with but a bat and a baseball.
I grew up playing baseball there, then I came to the United State when I was 10 years old. That was in 1990.. now Im 31.. anyways.. I played in middle school down here in Miami. I was the best of my class. Then I moved to Seattle. My dad used to work in Alaska so I Jumped to High School there. (EverGreen Senior High)I played shortstop and second base, Alex Rodriguez was my MLB IDOL back then. After 3 1/2 years I received a scholarship to play for the UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD. But then I hurt my left knee in a terrible injury during a Double Play.

Now that you Guys know my Baseball Background..
TIME FOR MY IMPRESSION ON MLB 2K12 DEMO....

Seriously 2K???
(1st.) Let me start with the Good things in the demo.. The Pitching is Great.. The Release of the Picher looks Good and the Stats Overlays are on point.. I really like the feature of setting your feet to throw.. I really Like the Variety of hits in the game... With that been said lets jump to the Bad side of the Demo...
(2nd) THE ANIMATIONS on the game are terrible.. I mean even RUNNING the bases looks off... THE OUTFIELDERS dont even hop the right way before throwin to second the animation there its just an OUTFIELDER using his arm to throw the ball to second base or cutoff man its just plain bad..( EVERY BASEBALL player ON every positions uses his body and arm to balance the thow.. in this game all that is missing... THE BODY TYPES of the players are not well represented, for some reason the pichers always has the ball in his hands when the mayority of pitchers carry the ball on their gloves... THE INFIELDERS dont aproach the ball the right way and when they throw to the bases they dont even do a pre-set before throwing with time..(( A Pre-set its based on 5 steps?? 1st) Gather the ball. 2nd) set your shoulders. 3rd) pump fake at least once OR TWICE for more accuracy. 4th) set your feet. 5th) throw to base..))
I give the DEMO A (( 6.5 out 10..))
 
# 7 truintellectplaya @ 03/02/12 08:17 AM
LMAO, at anybody thinking the Show has better presentation. Some of you guys are as lost as they come. 2K clearly has better commentary and presentation than the Show and that is undisputed.
 
# 8 m1ke_nyc @ 03/02/12 08:40 AM
The Show has better cutscenes but overall MLB 2K is superior in the presentation department.
 
# 9 OhCanadian @ 03/02/12 08:51 AM
It's OK. It is still choppy and feels "off". I will buy this on a price drop as it is my only option. Damn, it's like pulling into your driveway with a new Hyundai when the guy next door drives a Viper.
 
# 10 m1ke_nyc @ 03/02/12 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by OhCanadian
It's OK. It is still choppy and feels "off". I will buy this on a price drop as it is my only option. Damn, it's like pulling into your driveway with a new Hyundai when the guy next door drives a Viper.
lol so true
 
# 11 SoulAssassin @ 03/02/12 09:22 AM
The demo is ok but nothing that inspires me to spend my money on it.
 
# 12 buckeyedawgtribe @ 03/02/12 09:30 AM
If not for the NBA combo I would be waiting for the price drop to 39.99..I think it is definitely gonna be a fun game but as always I am worried it is gonna take a patch a two to make this game feel right..It was a smart move by 2K bundling this NBA 2K. I can see alot of NBA 2K owners getting the combo and trading in their NBA 2K to get something off the $60 price tag..
 
# 13 hf199 @ 03/02/12 09:41 AM
Seriously the stuttering of the camera on foul balls?!, so five years ago and still there! 2D graphics for crowds above the 1st level of stadiums, seriously! We have walking fans in The Show! And still no option of fielding camera angles since the inception of this game (Low, Medium, High). Again The Show has it! Why can't fans have the option for this? C'mon! It is smoother but its the little things that count now not trying to make up for years of falling behind.
 
# 14 DeuceDouglas @ 03/02/12 10:34 AM
I thought the demo was horrible. The Rangers jersey's looked like they were playing in the dark in the middle of the day. A lot of players seemed to have Mo Vaughn upper bodies paired with Ichiro legs. Hitting was incredibly boring as you can basically do it with just one hand on the controller. The ball physics looked out of whack. Hit a line drive up the middle and it bounces once and then just rolls smoothly along the ground. Here's to hoping MVP Baseball is back very, very soon.
 
# 15 maltliquor23 @ 03/02/12 12:34 PM
I was disappointed with the demo. I found the framerate to be extremely choppy. The same ol hit variety... none. What bothered me the most and i know its piddly but Loshe throws his fastball yet molina fires the return to the pitcher twice as fast. An infield single saw a baserunner in fair territory after passing the bag. Which should allow for a tag out. I can not believe 2k still hasn't figured this animation out yet. I was hoping for a step up but it seems they have gone backwards again. The lack of body types makes it very tough to view this as an upgrade as well. I do like the new throwing meter but it seems that baserunner speed will need seriously adjusted again. I may pick it up after it hits 30 bucks but i cant see it being worth the full 60 price tag.
 
# 16 canes21 @ 03/02/12 04:13 PM
I did find it funny that it was mentioned that The Show had better presentation, but everyone has their own opinion. To me, last year's baseball game had the best presentation in any sports game, and so far from what we've seen, this year's game is improving even more.

I also enjoyed last year's game and though there were no major improvements or innovations, there were a lot of little improvements that are easily going to add up this year. I'm definitely getting the game. It took a lot of little steps forward and as far as I can tell, took none backwards. I'll take a great number of small improvements over trying to do too much and having another NCAA 12 type turnout.
 
# 17 rheth @ 03/02/12 04:34 PM
Thought the roundtable comments were pretty spot on. I have a PS3 and chose 2k11 last year over the Show because I felt it was getting stale. I see from most of the videos of the Show that the commentary has not changed much, which I feel is a strong area for the 2k series. I still have problems with the overall look of 2k12. I know its just a demo, but to still have framerate issues during foul balls and even some when getting a hit is just unacceptable. Played a game in the demo, Wainwright was pitching for the Cardinals and it looked nothing like him! Love the analog hitting and the pitching mechanics in 2k but just don't know if I can shell out $60 for this game again. I am going to wait to see a few of the reviews, I want to like 2k12 but right now I am leaning towards going back to the Show. I think it might be time for a change next year and I would love to see EA get back into MLB games. The MVP series is still one of the best IMO and I think the Show would have some great competition from EA or at least have to deal with the one nagging issue with that series, the commentary.
 
# 18 jfazyankees @ 03/02/12 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rheth
Thought the roundtable comments were pretty spot on. I have a PS3 and chose 2k11 last year over the Show because I felt it was getting stale. I see from most of the videos of the Show that the commentary has not changed much, which I feel is a strong area for the 2k series. I still have problems with the overall look of 2k12. I know its just a demo, but to still have framerate issues during foul balls and even some when getting a hit is just unacceptable. Played a game in the demo, Wainwright was pitching for the Cardinals and it looked nothing like him! Love the analog hitting and the pitching mechanics in 2k but just don't know if I can shell out $60 for this game again. I am going to wait to see a few of the reviews, I want to like 2k12 but right now I am leaning towards going back to the Show. I think it might be time for a change next year and I would love to see EA get back into MLB games. The MVP series is still one of the best IMO and I think the Show would have some great competition from EA or at least have to deal with the one nagging issue with that series, the commentary.
PLEASE do yourself a favor and go back to The Show! It's an absolute no-brainer for PS3 owners. If they made The Show for Xbox, no one would buy 2K. (To anybody wondering, that's never gonna happen because The Show is made by Sony.)
 
# 19 canes21 @ 03/02/12 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfazyankees
PLEASE do yourself a favor and go back to The Show! It's an absolute no-brainer for PS3 owners. If they made The Show for Xbox, no one would buy 2K. (To anybody wondering, that's never gonna happen because The Show is made by Sony.)
Opinions buddy, we all have them.
 
# 20 DetroitStyle @ 03/02/12 11:11 PM
Rule #1: no comparisons between th two games.

What does everyone do? Make comparisons...*smh*

C'mon guys it's a demo round table. Unless you got something constructive to say about the demo then don't post at all.
 

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