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MLB 2K12 Demo Roundtable

Bishop Tart: Gameplay is not too different from 2K11, but everything just feels a lot more smoother this year: animations, character models, etc. The overall gameplay is also still fun to play if you have always been a fan of the series. As one of the people who still use the classic control option, not much has changed on that end, but to me, that is perfectly acceptable.

Visually, the game looks similar to 2K11, but some of the player models do look better this year. With that said, they are still a step behind those of MLB: The Show. Also, the lighting looks much better this time around when compared to MLB 2K11.

With no commentary included in the demo and very little presentation, it's obviously hard to judge both of those. I just hope they stepped their game up with both to make a more authentic baseball experience -- because we all know the MLB 2K series lacks the presentation value seen in the MLB: The Show franchise.

As the only baseball game of its kind on the Xbox 360, you can't really go wrong with MLB 2K12. The demo does a great job of providing some of the experience you'll have in the full game next week.


The graphics have received a noticeable upgrade this season...the gameplay seems tweaked for sure.

Bo McCready: I really dislike the “OMG ANALOG CONTROLS” wave sweeping sports gaming, but I’ll admit begrudgingly that the analog controls feel good in this game. The power, contact and defensive swings become intuitive quickly, and analog pitching feels more responsive than ever.

The demo doesn’t feel that much different from last year’s effort, but there are a lot of little things I enjoyed. Any baseball game where you can draw a walk against the CPU without altering sliders wins points from me (if that seems ridiculous, remember trying to draw a walk in this series five or six years ago)?

When pitching, your pitch ratings fluctuate up and down depending on how effective you are throwing each one. At first, I loved the feature, as I made Neftali Feliz’s deadly two-seam fastball even more effective with a couple of early strikeouts. But then I induced a routine ground-out with a four-seam fastball and the game registered it as a double, cratering my four-seam rating. Hopefully those little glitches are ironed out before the full game releases.

There’s nothing in this demo that blew me away, but I’m having a good time with it.

Matthew Coe: Seeing as how this is one of my top five most anticipated sports games of 2012, I went into the demo just hoping not to be disappointed. Not only was disappointment not an issue, but I was pleasantly surprised by the implementation of a few of 2K12's new features.

I like the tightened up throw meter. On one occasion, a bunt by Rafael Furcal, catcher Mike Napoli had to really hurry to beat the speedy base runner. I had to make a fast decision and I overthrew the ball. It wound up in right field as it sailed past my first baseman and Furcal's speed got him to third base. The new pitch rating mechanic is well done too. It's not overdone, that I can tell, as I was worried it might be. This one tweak alone will help freshen up the pitching and make it a different experience from 2K11.

Speaking of 2K11, the demo does feel like a very polished version of last year's retail release, and I think that's kind of what 2K Sports was hoping for with the demo release. It doesn't take any steps back or show off any glaring weakness and it does highlight the additions for 2K12 well.

The demo does have a few nagging bugs, like being called out on a close play at first because my runner went into the "rounding the base" animation and a few other quirks that, as Bo said, will hopefully not be in the retail version.

Overall, with a distinct lack of presentation due to demo size, I came away fairly impressed. Not blown away, but not dissuaded from looking forward to the game's release.


MLB 2K12 isn't a huge improvement over 2K11, which may or may not be a good thing for you.

Phil Varckette: I was hopeful that the improvements to the game would be substantial, but unfortunately, in the demo anyway, they seem to me more subtle. This isn't a bad thing. It's what I should have expected in the first place.

The PS3 version seems to have gotten a graphical upgrade from last year, which is certainly a welcome surprise. The swing animations have improved and so has the outfield play. I also noticed more hit variety. It looks like 2K has at least kept their promises as far as gameplay is concerned.

One of the most glaring issues the series has had over recent years is the framerate. This issue is back. Its mostly noticeable on foul balls, but even still there is no excuse for it at this point.

Overall, the demo tells me the retail version will be an improvement over 2K11. Even if its subtle improvements, at least it's getting better.

Mike Kilroy: I was very excited when I downloaded the MLB 2K12 demo. After all, this was supposed to be the year when the title actually lived up to the hype.

Well ... not so fast.

While the demo showcases some mild improvements over previous incarnations, in my opinion, it doesn't do enough. Sure, the animations are smoother and the gameplay seems tighter, but I was still left with a sinking feeling of, 'Oh, no. Not again.' The graphics still seem bland to me and there is still a feeling that the game is just "off."

It's hard to glean a whole lot from a demo, but this one underwhelmed me.


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Member Comments
# 21 cbnj06 @ 03/02/12 11:11 PM
For the people who have Playstation, why would you even consider buying 2k when you have The Show available. Pretty much us 360 users are stuck with 2k until someone else starts developing baseball games. Hopefully EA.
 
# 22 rheth @ 03/03/12 10:16 AM
I don't think there is anything wrong making some critical comments about the demo. 2k has had 7 years of an exclusive license to put out a decent product. As a PS3 owner I have more than one choice and last year I my choice was 2k11. As far as making comparisons, what else are you going measure 2k12 against? As I said before, after playing the demo I am still undecided but I am leaning toward the Show. I hope that the retail version of 2k12 is better than the demo and I feel for 360 owners as you only have one choice.
 
# 23 canes21 @ 03/03/12 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbnj06
For the people who have Playstation, why would you even consider buying 2k when you have The Show available. Pretty much us 360 users are stuck with 2k until someone else starts developing baseball games. Hopefully EA.
Because everyone has their own opinions about what makes a good baseball game. For me, I love the Show's little things it does right. It has a good atmosphere, has good graphics, the crowd is nice, and the game of baseball plays out pretty well, but I just can't play it for even a complete game most of the time. It's a great game and I see why it has a loving fan base, but it is not the game for me.

2l's baseball games have their problems. I hate how they don't even have mascots, ball boys, bat boys, etc. but when it comes to the two most important things to me, presentation and gameplay, I prefer 2k's over The Show's. Both games have their pros/cons and some people will always take The Shows, some will stay behind 2k, some will switch between them from time to time.

That's just how it is. The Show is a great game, I'll admit that, but I'll also admit for some reason I enjoy playing 2k's version of baseball better even though I hate how it's missing so many little things in the stadium that make the atmosphere so much better.
 
# 24 14straight @ 03/03/12 11:14 AM
"LMAO, at anybody thinking the Show has better presentation. Some of you guys are as lost as they come. 2K clearly has better commentary and presentation than the Show and that is undisputed."

I don't understand why this matters if The Show blows every other baseball game ever made out of the water. I'll take gameplay over presentation any day. Commentary rarely gets on my nerves unless it's truly horrific. An upgrade to the presentation merely enhances an otherwise great baseball experience.
 
# 25 14straight @ 03/03/12 11:20 AM
"When pitching, your pitch ratings fluctuate up and down depending on how effective you are throwing each one. At first, I loved the feature, as I made Neftali Feliz’s deadly two-seam fastball even more effective with a couple of early strikeouts. But then I induced a routine ground-out with a four-seam fastball and the game registered it as a double, cratering my four-seam rating. Hopefully those little glitches are ironed out before the full game releases."

"The demo does have a few nagging bugs, like being called out on a close play at first because my runner went into the "rounding the base" animation and a few other quirks that, as Bo said, will hopefully not be in the retail version."

This is exactly why I stopped playing the MLB 2K series, bought a PS3, and started enjoying baseball games again. It is littered with "nagging bugs" every year. Given their track record, I would expect that both of these bugs make it into the retail version. Those aren't minor things. They are maddeningly frustrating.

Any baseball franchise looking to take on The Show has a major uphill battle ahead of them. I am excited at the prospect of EA possibly getting an MVP Baseball franchise going, but it's going to be difficult. I loved the MVP franchise, but it has been surpassed by The Show.
 
# 26 GisherJohn24 @ 03/03/12 05:15 PM
This game will never be worth 60 bucks guys. We can only hope that MVP will be back one day.
 
# 27 tbook24 @ 03/03/12 10:40 PM
hard to get fired up for a game with no sound
 
# 28 sydrogerdavid @ 03/04/12 12:30 AM
The only thing this game has over the Show is Busch Stadium and downtown St. Louis.
 
# 29 rheth @ 03/04/12 11:33 AM
After a few games with the demo I noticed one glitch that was very frustrating. On multiple occasions there was a runner on first and a double play ball was hit to my second baseman, as I charged the ball I pushed up to throw to my shortstop to turn a double play and my second baseman threw home to the catcher. Has anyone else encountered this? Know its the demo but hope this is not a glitch when the retail version comes out. Also almost every time I hit a foul ball, there is a framerate hiccup, this has also happend numerous times on a hit. Again , know it is the demo c'mon man! This has been a nagging issue for years with this game. I am a PS3 owner and love the hitting and pitching but the framerate hiccups are a killer!
 
# 30 extremeskins04 @ 03/05/12 01:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sydrogerdavid
The only thing this game has over the Show is Busch Stadium and downtown St. Louis.
Commentary, Trading, Stat Overlays from 2k12 blow The Show out of the water. In fact it's not even close man. Not saying that this means a great deal, but don't say the only thing it has over The Show is the stadium and downtown St Louis.

I have both systems. Still deciding which game to buy.
 
# 31 teebee @ 03/05/12 11:48 AM
How could MLB2k12 be one of your most anticipated titles of the year? Do you ever leave the house? SMH
 
# 32 m1ke_nyc @ 03/05/12 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teebee
How could MLB2k12 be one of your most anticipated titles of the year? Do you ever leave the house? SMH
what he probably meant was he really wanted to see where the game would be at.
 
# 33 DBMcGee3 @ 03/06/12 02:33 PM
I mean, is it just me or does anyone else hate the hitting system in the 2k franchise. To be fair, I haven't played the demo this year, but I've at least rented the game the last several years, and the batting just flat out isn't fun or rewarding to me. It really just seems to be all about timing, along with not swinging at balls out of the strike zone. The step timing with the right stick is cool and all, but the left stick HAS TO determine where the swing is aimed, in my opinion at least.

I really haven't enjoyed a baseball game since MVP (I don't have PS3 guys, relax), but I used to love that game b/c you had to learn the break on certain pitches, and if you didn't get your cursor in the right spot, you wouldn't hit the ball. If you were waiting on a 12-6 curve and saw a high changeup instead, you were going to look foolish. It was really hard at times, but soooooooooo much more satisfying when you really made good contact. I used to get pumped up about every ball I hit hard on MVP, even the ones that were caught. From what I've seen, The Show basically combines the best of both of these games in their batting interface. Maybe 2k should just tip their cap and follow suit.
 

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