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MLB '09: The Show Preview (PS3)

A lot of The Show’s charm comes from its ability to surprise you even after you have played it for 30 hours. Whether it is a new cut-scene you have never witnessed before or a new fielding animation that suddenly pops up for the first time, those are the moments when many gamers really appreciate The Show as a franchise. And that is why it is kind of tough to size up MLB 09: The Show (and most other baseball games) in preview form.

In real baseball, it is easy enough to figure out who the stars are and why they mean so much to their respective teams. Yet, it is the little things that are done on the field and in the dugout that will ultimately determine which teams are the most successful. In that same way, it is easy enough to realize that the core mechanics of MLB 09: The Show –- hitting, pitching –- are solid overall, but it will take many hours of playing time to decipher whether or not MLB 09: The Show is another game of the year contender.

The Core

Pitching and hitting are obviously the most important gameplay elements in a baseball game, so there is no reason not to talk about these components first. The first question people usually ask is, have any drastic changes been made to the pitching or hitting mechanics? And the simple answer is that no drastic changes have been made. Nevertheless, if you dig a little deeper, it becomes a more complicated question to answer. From a controls standpoint, it does not seem like many changes have been made to the pitching or hitting. If you look beyond the controls, though, the developers have said that subtle yet distinct changes have been implemented for '09 -– which I mostly noticed while pitching.

I am most excited to talk about the pitcher-catcher interaction. For those gamers that pitch from the "pitcher view" and turn off the strike zone and a lot of the other indicators, they really will experience an engrossing pitcher-catcher interaction this spring. This year, it is possible to read what the catcher is doing behind the plate and pitch the whole game without having to turn on any indicators –- besides, of course, the pitching menu that tells you what pitches you have at your disposal.

So, virtual Jorge Posada can put one finger down, then signal to throw it low and then signal to throw it outside, and virtual C.C. will know to throw a 4-seam fastball. Now, to an extent this was implemented last year, but now you truly can turn off all the indicators, ignore all the in-game menus that help you identify what pitch to throw, and simply read the catcher’s signals and go from there. It seems so small, but sometimes it is the simplest things that make the biggest difference.

The pitching meter has also received a visual tweak. The meter has been made much thicker at the bottom, and then much thinner in the max-power area. This visual change will take a while to get used to because the differentiating thickness makes it tougher to gauge when to stop the meter in the sweet spot. I think this was perhaps Sony’s way of meeting naysayers halfway, since some people thought the pitching meter was "too easy to master."

While I was hitting, it was a little harder to identify subtle changes that had been made to the hitting system. Sony has added more feedback to the hitting system, so those who want to check out why they missed a pitch can do so in a more effective fashion. So when you click the L3 button -- in addition to the system telling you whether you swung early or late, low or high -- there is a visual cue that will display your batter’s plate-coverage ability.

In general, though, it was tough to notice many differences –- at least in terms of "feel" –- when it came to hitting. I would like to think that is because I only got to play for roughly an hour and a half, but you never know. Of course, just because I did not think the hitting felt much different, does not mean the hitting was bad; it simply means some gamers might think it feels too comfortable.

It is true that there are no eye-popping innovations on the hitting and pitching fronts, but I also do not have much to complain about when it comes to these elements. Therefore, perhaps "polished" sums up these aspects of the game at this juncture.

D-FENCE!

A lot of work has gone into the fielding this year, which is a good thing in my mind, because I felt like the fielding held the gameplay back last year. First things first though, there is not a new throwing mechanic in the game; it works the same as it did last year.

Moving on, the first positive thing I noticed came during a force-out play at second base. Last year, trying to go to second base on a force out was a dangerous game to play because the fielder usually threw some lob-ball nonsense to the SS or 2B. This year, your fielder will pick the ball up, and in rhythm, sling the ball over to the player covering second base.

The best part of this, though, is the fact that the player covering the bag reacts in different ways. One time I threw a ball over to second when there were two outs, and the fielder caught the ball, touched the bag and immediately continued running towards the dugout in one fluid motion. Another time I threw a ball to second base with less than two outs, and the fielder caught the ball on the bag and then immediately tried to avoid the incoming baserunner hustling from first base.

Branching off from that positive, a lot has gone into making players aware of each other on the diamond. In the past, a fielder would stand his ground on second base after receiving the ball, and then the sliding runner would ghost or clip through the aforementioned fielder. This year, it seems like this type of scenario will not be as noticeable. So, there is not a full-on collision-detection system that has been implemented, but rather, the players just seem more aware of each other on the field.

During my time with the game, this awareness seemed to help minimize the clipping issues that have continuously plagued the game over the years. It is not a perfect solution because it does seem like the players will still go through each other at points. Still, the fact that fielders will simply be aware of their surroundings should result in fewer instances of fielders clipping through baserunners during tag-outs or sliding situations.

The way fielders approach balls has also been changed in a few ways (some that have already been discussed). Last year, for example, a fielder would sometimes run directly over a ball up the middle and not pick it up. While I was playing this year’s build, however, I did not notice any those slow dribblers up the middle leaving my infielders helpless and hapless.

How an outfielder approaches a ball sitting in the outfield has also changed. During certain situations last year, you would use an outfielder and run over to a ball on the ground, and yet the fielder would not pick the ball up until he ran over it once or twice more. It seems like this issue has been combated by changing the speed of the approaching outfielders.

I think the idea behind this approach is that, in real life, outfielders rarely run up to a ball on the ground at full speed because they would misplay the ball. However, when I was playing, there was an instance where a ball bounced hard off the wall and my outfielder gingerly ran up to the ball to pick it up. It was a moment where I felt the game should not have taken control out of my hands because I did not tell the fielder to slow up; he did it automatically. There is certainly a time when you want an action to be completed automatically, but I did not like that control was taken from me at that exact moment.

This Game Is Purdy


As soon as my players stepped onto Wrigley Field for a daytime game, they could just sense the warm glow of the Chicago sun. The dynamic lighting effects are the major reason why my players could really sense the beaming rays of sunlight. Because of these new lighting effects, when it is overcast you can now really tell, and if it is just partly cloudy, you will also be able to notice a substantial difference. The new lighting effects also change the way the parks look at field level. As your corner outfielders creep closer to the foul line, they will creep deeper and deeper into the dynamic shadows, which also look great. Honestly, the new lighting techniques make anything and everything look much more realistic.

The fields also seem to be graphically updated. I really noticed some variations in the level of dirt around the diamond, and general wear and tear showed up on the field as the game progressed. In general, it just seems like the elements that surround the baseball players have come alive.

Animations, Animations, Animations, and Cut-Scenes

Every year I am amazed by the amount of interesting cut-scenes and animations that make it into The Show, and this year is no different. There are little things I witnessed, like Boston Red Sox Manager Terry Francona walking to the mound with his jacket on during a brisk New York night, and more noticeable gameplay ones, such as the various ways fielders deal with a ball they are catching at second base, which I mentioned earlier.

Each animation or cut-scene is simple and so-so by itself, but they add up to create a true-to-life baseball game. For example, during the first inning of my '09 baseball year, I noticed how fans now go up and down the aisles in the stands; I witnessed an instance where a foul tip hit off the catcher and the umpire had to call time so the catcher could compose himself; and then later in that same at bat, the batter pulled a ball foul and fell to one knee because he was so far ahead of the ball. Each instance by itself is not a big deal, but it adds up in the long run.

So…

It seems like the little things that you will notice while playing the game, and the subtle nuances within the gameplay, will continue to define this series. It is the surrounding elements -– mainly the franchise mode and the online play -– that will ultimately define this year’s game. If those elements have been improved significantly this year, then there is no reason this game cannot please almost every gamer out there. At this point, though, having not been able to toy around with the franchise mode or online play, all I can say is the gameplay and atmosphere are still in good hands.

Check back on Friday for a short interview with a MLB: The Show developer (in the interview he discusses online play). On Monday, be on the lookout for an interview with three MLB: The Show developers (the transcribed interview will deal with a wide range of gameplay topics).

*Full disclosure: Sony paid for my hotel and airfare during this trip. While it did not influence what I wrote here, I always think it is important to be upfront with the visitors of this site whenever possible.*


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Member Comments
# 61 bodhiball @ 01/22/09 02:18 PM
sounds good...

I was surprised how disappointed I was upon hearing that the throwing mechanic is the same. Not sure what peoples feelings are on that one, but it just seems to have no control/feel to it, pressing a button and maybe its an error and maybe its not.
 
# 62 rudyjuly2 @ 01/22/09 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bodhiball
I was surprised how disappointed I was upon hearing that the throwing mechanic is the same. Not sure what peoples feelings are on that one, but it just seems to have no control/feel to it, pressing a button and maybe its an error and maybe its not.
It's not analog throwing like MVP but it still had a feel to it. The longer you held it down, the harder the throw and greater chance of error. I don't mind the randomness of it as long as the player attributes are used more so we really see who is good defensively and who is bad.
 
# 63 nemesis04 @ 01/22/09 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2
It's not analog throwing like MVP but it still had a feel to it. The longer you held it down, the harder the throw and greater chance of error. I don't mind the randomness of it as long as the player attributes are used more so we really see who is good defensively and who is bad.
To me it felt like the throwing system was more animation driven in determining throw velocities as opposed to it being driven by the sensitivity of the button press.
 
# 64 teebee @ 01/22/09 02:45 PM
PItching from the behind the pitcher view is terrible though unless it's actually lined up and not the TV style 3/4 angle. You can't get a feel for the strike zone and a pitch that you think is on the corner could be down the middle or a foot outside.

They need to set the pitching cam directly behind the batter a la Fenway Park or Camden. I anticipate all tv broadcasts to do this in the near future eliminating that weird 3/4 angle we've grown up

Until then, i'll be gassing fools in batter view, i don't need no stinking signs
 
# 65 rudyjuly2 @ 01/22/09 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nemesis04
To me it felt like the throwing system was more animation driven in determining throw velocities as opposed to it being driven by the sensitivity of the button press.
It was definitely hit or miss as to when an animation might take over. But I think a lot of the singles to SS and 3B and easy throws to first were up to the user. It was the quick flips to first and double play balls that seems to be out of our control but it seems like that is being fixed for '09.
 
# 66 Skyboxer @ 01/22/09 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by abbbsinthe
Im a bit worried about some of these early previews?! Doesnt seem like there is any WOW factor about this years version?! I was hoping everyone would come back and be like;"Holy Sh-t this game is the end all be all!" Anyways its still early and Im a lil anxious thats all! Cant wait to start doing rosters! Hey Knight if you need any help this year let me know ok! The more that help the quicker we can all get the rosters up right! Wish I had a time machine to get to March 3rd! Got both MLB 09 and the release of the new U2 album! Took 3 days off lol!
For what it's worth: I'm a "baseball" fan and I've seen PLENTY to make me go WOW. From the franchise stuff to the fielding.
 
# 67 Motown @ 01/22/09 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
Chase, thanks for that preview, it all sounds great!

Only question... aside from a new pitching camera (which I'm only assuming), have you noticed a new batting or fielding camera? For instance, in the trailers there were some home run cuts that looked like they came from a true-to-life broadcast camera. Was that a real gameplay option, was that just a cut scene, or was that an overall tease that's not even in the game?

Thanks.
Great Question Blaaaz...Chase, could ya elaborate on this? thanks again
 
# 68 Knight165 @ 01/22/09 03:19 PM
.....and just add the fact that Russ has stated in the Legends Mode thread that the sliders have been significantly worked on this year!
Those crazy a$$ games where the devs couldn't beat Legend mode......all on default!

I'm getting a little antsy...

How are the jails in S.D.?
I'm stealing a copy next week and I just want to know if they have PS3's in the rec room?

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 69 brunnoce @ 01/22/09 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyboxer
For what it's worth: I'm a "baseball" fan and I've seen PLENTY to make me go WOW. From the franchise stuff to the fielding.
sign me in that list too m8
im definatly WOWed by this game
 
# 70 HustlinOwl @ 01/22/09 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DinoSpumoni
Biased... Nuff Said.
 
# 71 Knight165 @ 01/22/09 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl
Haha!
Ridiculous...right!?
Why do guys even bother?





M.K.
Knight165
 
# 72 tree3five @ 01/22/09 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jim416
Knight and I are both expert burglars.
even if you did get caught Jim, I can see you getting your way out of it, lol.
 
# 73 NAFBUC @ 01/22/09 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottdau
What happens when you get a crazy cop and a wild fireman togehter for some fun with the Show? Come watch this funny new show called "Cops" on location in San Diego. Jim will be the one with the wife beater shirt on and Knight will be the one with the Show 09 sticking out of his pants!
Thats fine, along as there is no furr showing.
 
# 74 SDwinder @ 01/22/09 08:07 PM
If you want to eliminate the control/animation issues, then set the Auto Field option on, but with human throwing.

What this does is allow the AI controlled fielder to field based on his set paremeters, but the human player interacts to tell the fielder where to throw the ball.

Because you can pre-load a throw before the ball is in the glove, the animation is seamless and very smooth with no hesitation. I have been playing this way with 08 and it works great, and the games are more realistic.
 
# 75 nemesis04 @ 01/22/09 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by miamimarlins1
The hitting being the same concerns me a little. I was hoping hitting would be a bit harder, and a little less laser beam shots. I'll still be buying it because its the best sports game out there, I was just hoping for a little more tweaking to the hitting engine
Keep in mind he only played it for about 90 minutes. We are going to spend some serious time with the game. Don't give up hope yet!
 
# 76 brunnoce @ 01/22/09 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jim416
Jdurg....hope SLIDERS, SLIDERS, SLIDERS.
amem to that!
 
# 77 SoxFan01605 @ 01/22/09 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by miamimarlins1
The hitting being the same concerns me a little. I was hoping hitting would be a bit harder, and a little less laser beam shots. I'll still be buying it because its the best sports game out there, I was just hoping for a little more tweaking to the hitting engine
Well, he said the controls and "feel" were the same. I'm okay with this because both were fine. It was the window to make contact that was the problem (IMO).

Russell already stated that it has been at least reduced for Legend difficulty and that sliders are improved. I think we'll all have a much better idea after our boys get back from SD.

As for the review, sounds good. My only concern was (as some mentioned) that the fielding still sounded very "tempered" as far as user controlled. That's another thing we probably won't be able to say much about until the guys who share our concerns about this stuff plays.

No worries
 
# 78 HechticSooner @ 01/23/09 01:00 AM
thanks for being honest about the pay, at least it is not like the payola that the mags have going. I also think that your honest would prove that you would write exactly what you felt about the game. Keep up the good work.
 
# 79 hitstreak13 @ 01/23/09 02:25 AM
Thanks Chase. I can't wait until they really go into depth in franchise mode. Although I am aware of the many additions, I am anxious to find out how it plays. Good work guys at SCEA. You have made millions of consumers happy over the years. I will buy 2 copies this year to show my support for your company
 
# 80 rudyjuly2 @ 01/23/09 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605
As for the review, sounds good. My only concern was (as some mentioned) that the fielding still sounded very "tempered" as far as user controlled.
The fielding animations are a good thing imo. It's some of the throwing animations that need to be fixed and/or eliminated. One of the reasons the Show is so great is the presentation. The little things that make it look like you are watching a real baseball game.

I actually like animation driven fielding at times. You shouldn't be able to run full speed to pick up a ball at the wall. The fact that an animation slowed him down while he picked up the ball was much more realistic, adds to the atmosphere and just screams real baseball. Would people rather take a player and run him at top speed into the wall without penalty and have the player just automatically pick up the ball in 2/10 of a second and turn a fire a bullet to the cut off man? Not me.

At other times there are shots hit down the baseline where a player in real life has a split second to react to make the play. A third basemen's quick back hand would be impossible for the user to create manually but beautiful to watch as an animation based on a player's attributes. Other animations to feature errors, juggled balls, etc. are also needed to make the game more like true baseball.

I agree that the Show needs to fix some things is in the throwing department. Once I have fielded the ball, the button press should determine how hard a ball gets thrown and not an animation. Predominately the infield throws that end up going slow even though we pressed the button hard and costing us outs. The fix to the short throws and other things look good to me so far. I'm sure the community guys will elaborate in a week for us!
 


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