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The official Madden NFL 17 roster update for week 16 is available now. These weekly roster updates include changes to player ratings, depth charts, and injuries for all 32 teams.

You can check all of the changes here. We've listed some of the changes below.

GOING UP
  • Khalil Mack +1 (Overall 98)
  • Eric Weddle +1 (Overall 96)
  • Eric Berry +1 (Overall 94)
  • Zach Martin +1 (Overall 94)
  • Travis Frederick +1 (Overall 93)
  • Jimmy Graham +1 (Overall 93)
  • Bobby Wagner +2 (Overall 92)
  • David Bakhtiari +1 (Overall 90)
  • Micheal Bennett +1 (Overall 90)
  • Janoris Jenkins +1 (Overall 90)
  • Sean Lee +1 (Overall 90)
  • Alex Mack +1 (Overall 90)
  • Melvin Ingram +1 (Overall 89)
  • Jordy Nelson +1 (Overall 89)
  • Matt Ryan +1 (Overall 89)
  • Devonta Freeman +1 (Overall 88)
  • Richie Incognito +2 (Overall 88)
  • Tony Jefferson +1 (Overall 88)
  • C.J. Mosley +1 (Overall 88)
  • Olivier Vernon +1 (Overall 88)
  • Brandon Brooks +1 (Overall 87)
  • Brandin Cooks +1 (Overall 87)
  • Julian Edelman +1 (Overall 87)
  • Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie +1 (Overall 87)
  • Joey Bosa +1 (Overall 86)
  • A.J. Bouye +1 (Overall 86)
  • Leonard Williams +1 (Overall 86)
  • Mike Adams +3 (Overall 83)
GOING DOWN
  • Aaron Rodgers -1 (Overall 94)
  • Tyron Smith -1 (Overall 93)
  • Aqib Talib -1 (Overall 93)
  • Greg Olsen -2 (Overall 92)
  • Geno Atkins -1 (Overall 92)
  • Gerald McCoy -2 (Overall 91)
  • Larry Fitzgerald -2 (Overall 90)
  • Adrian Peterson -1 (Overall 89)
  • Justin Pugh -2 (Overall 88)
  • Russell Wilson -1 (Overall 88)
  • Terrell Suggs -1 (Overall 87)
  • K.J. Wright -2 (Overall 87)
  • Cliff Avril -2 (Overall 86)
  • Brian Orakpo -1 (Overall 86)
  • Xavier Rhodes -1 (Overall 86)
  • Brandon Marshall -3 (Overall 85)
  • Tyrann Mathieu -3 (Overall 85)
  • Derek Wolfe -3 (Overall 82)

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Member Comments
# 21 KANE699 @ 12/23/16 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
If they look at PFF then Brandon Boykins DB of the bears should be like an 81 or something cuz in 2015 he was 23rd best ranked corner out 119 . But he's rated like a 72 ; Kyle Fuller rated an 80 with a pff grade of 77 . Boykin had a PFF grade of 80 .


Neither one played this season so they rating shouldn't be crucified on play














It's to emulate rust, its hard for a player to get better when they are sitting out for a whole year, look at Orlando Scandrick, perfect example.
 
# 22 KANE699 @ 12/23/16 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by azdawgpound
Still funny all season long dude still hasent gotten the browns depth chart right players in wrong postions, etc takes 2 secs to fix every week so I'm still not sure what site they using because both Ourlads and the browns home page is same.

So is there a magical NFL site they use?? That has players at wrong postions?? Lol

And I agree with other posters if a guy gets traded to browns or any other team thier overalls shouldn't take like 10 point drops just because of that or any other ratings.
Browns have been an ABSOLUTE mess for me because of injuries. Who needs to be moved and where, ourlads isn't accurate and often times neither is the team site.
 
# 23 KANE699 @ 12/23/16 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan1016
He didn't play the full games when he got there because he was learning a new playbook. As you pointed out his tAckles per game were increasing over time as he played more. And if you add the tackles he has all together he's around the 9 tackles a game mark for them. I just don't see how you could justify dropping him 10 overall points just because he's on the Browns now.
It's how he's playing, has nothing to do with what team he plays on, and no he doesn't average 9 tackles a game with Cleveland.

He averages 6 solo tackles a game and the only reason it's that high is because of the one 13 tackle performance.

If he is still so amazing why did he drop out of the top 10 on PFF so quickly?

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CollJa00.htm
 
# 24 noplace @ 12/24/16 12:09 AM
How is Dez Bryant still in the 90's? He's been very average this year.
 
# 25 MoneyOvaHuds @ 12/24/16 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
It's to emulate rust, its hard for a player to get better when they are sitting out for a whole year, look at Orlando Scandrick, perfect example.


But why was he rated a 71 on launch when his play shows otherwise and if that's the case of Rust then let his play show that and not assume such . What he returns next year and plays well ? Then we will have to wait each week for him to advance in ratings all over again when he should have been rated much higher to begin with .


Just saying let the players performance on the field dictate their rating
 
# 26 StefJoeHalt @ 12/24/16 04:12 PM
I think..the use of PFF shouldn't be the end all be all to stats..but also I think people need to take a step back on slamming ratings too..look trying to adjust ratings within a week to week time frame is silly..in my opinion it takes a full year to get a handle on each player and if their play has risen or fallen


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# 27 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by noplace
How is Dez Bryant still in the 90's? He's been very average this year.
His yards per reception is the highest in his career at 15.8 and if Dak could properly place a back shoulder fad he would have 4 more touchdowns easily.

Watch him on film, definitely hasn't been a down year for him.
 
# 28 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
But why was he rated a 71 on launch when his play shows otherwise and if that's the case of Rust then let his play show that and not assume such . What he returns next year and plays well ? Then we will have to wait each week for him to advance in ratings all over again when he should have been rated much higher to begin with .


Just saying let the players performance on the field dictate their rating
You know what you're right, he had been playing so well he was on how many teams in a 2 year span?
 
# 29 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by StefJoeHalt
I think..the use of PFF shouldn't be the end all be all to stats..but also I think people need to take a step back on slamming ratings too..look trying to adjust ratings within a week to week time frame is silly..in my opinion it takes a full year to get a handle on each player and if their play has risen or fallen


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
Week to week changes are really difficult for sure, and just as a heads up PFF isn't the end all be all.
 
# 30 MoneyOvaHuds @ 12/25/16 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
You know what you're right, he had been playing so well he was on how many teams in a 2 year span?

You really going to use this as your main excuse ? Horrible logic



Boykin came into the NFL in 2012 with the eagles and spent 3 years there their best Nickel DB . In his 4th year he was traded to the Steelers by who of course chip Kelly who was moving everyone and is a horrible coach and Roster evaluator . Eagles fans were dumbfounded by the move and angry with chip .


In his season with the Steelers and him the coaches didn't get along and they didn't use him till later in the season and what do you know he played well as the stats and pff showed above .

After last season he was a free agent and signed with the Carolina Panthers the was released like a month later with a " injury risk or concern "

Brandon Boykin who never missed an NFL game in his career


Boykin then signed with my Chicago Bears and would have made our roster but he was placed on IR with a pectoral injury in August which you just now put him on IR in this recent update .

So don't say stuff like he's so good he's been on how many teams in a 2 year span because if you don't know the situations maybe you shouldn't comment on it cuz it def wasn't about his play which the stats show he's been solid .


Brandon Boykin who was 2nd in coverage in 2013 , 19th in 2014 then last season ranked the 23rd best Corner out 119 via PFF .

Brandon Marshall is good and is about to be moved again this offseason his 3rd team in 4 years .....
 
# 31 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan1016
He didn't play the full games when he got there because he was learning a new playbook. As you pointed out his tAckles per game were increasing over time as he played more. And if you add the tackles he has all together he's around the 9 tackles a game mark for them. I just don't see how you could justify dropping him 10 overall points just because he's on the Browns now.
Wish this guy wouldn't of been banned, he acts as if he dropped 10 ovr in a matter of one week which simply isn't true
 
# 32 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
You really going to use this as your main excuse ? Horrible logic



Boykin came into the NFL in 2012 with the eagles and spent 3 years there their best Nickel DB . In his 4th year he was traded to the Steelers by who of course chip Kelly who was moving everyone and is a horrible coach and Roster evaluator . Eagles fans were dumbfounded by the move and angry with chip .


In his season with the Steelers and him the coaches didn't get along and they didn't use him till later in the season and what do you know he played well as the stats and pff showed above .

After last season he was a free agent and signed with the Carolina Panthers the was released like a month later with a " injury risk or concern "

Brandon Boykin who never missed an NFL game in his career


Boykin then signed with my Chicago Bears and would have made our roster but he was placed on IR with a pectoral injury in August which you just now put him on IR in this recent update .

So don't say stuff like he's so good he's been on how many teams in a 2 year span because if you don't know the situations maybe you shouldn't comment on it cuz it def wasn't about his play which the stats show he's been solid .


Brandon Boykin who was 2nd in coverage in 2013 , 19th in 2014 then last season ranked the 23rd best Corner out 119 via PFF .

Brandon Marshall is good and is about to be moved again this offseason his 3rd team in 4 years .....
He was supposed to be on IR all year, was an oversight, I could of sworn he was already on IR but he wasn't so I corrected the mistake.

The fact you are torn up about a guy who hasn't actually done anything since 2014 is concerning to me, it seems like you're pushing for this guy to be better because the other corners on the roster aren't as good as you'd hoped.

It's also more concerning you just keep mentioning his ovr rating instead of his coverage ratings which are the most important. As everyone says, PFF isn't the end all be all.

I decided to give him a minor tweak and his ovr just happened to go up to a 70, this is likely where he will remain till 18.
 
# 33 MoneyOvaHuds @ 12/25/16 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
He was supposed to be on IR all year, was an oversight, I could of sworn he was already on IR but he wasn't so I corrected the mistake.

The fact you are torn up about a guy who hasn't actually done anything since 2014 is concerning to me, it seems like you're pushing for this guy to be better because the other corners on the roster aren't as good as you'd hoped.

It's also more concerning you just keep mentioning his ovr rating instead of his coverage ratings which are the most important. As everyone says, PFF isn't the end all be all.

I decided to give him a minor tweak and his ovr just happened to go up to a 70, this is likely where he will remain till 18.


His coverage ratings which I didn't bring up are actually decent it's his awareness and play recognition that I brought which was the concern .


And for one don't assume on why I suggested this because I actually brought up at launch . I felt some guys could have been better mainly only Boykin and Bryce . I had no problem with Fuller or Porter our two top corners last year . Fuller was better despite being the number 2 but Porter is just bad and looked worse due to him being the number 1 Corner .


So what he hasn't made a crazy impact like the 2013 year but the fact is he still was one of the best nickels in the game in game and always has a solid grade . Awareness and play recognition is were I mainly have a problem with your scouting of him .

But I agree he shouldn't have any ratings increased because he hasn't played this year but he shouldn't have any decrease either because of that . My real problem is I just think he was underrated to begin with in general.
 
# 34 KANE699 @ 12/25/16 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
His coverage ratings which I didn't bring up are actually decent it's his awareness and play recognition that I brought which was the concern .


And for one don't assume on why I suggested this because I actually brought up at launch . I felt some guys could have been better mainly only Boykin and Bryce . I had no problem with Fuller or Porter our two top corners last year . Fuller was better despite being the number 2 but Porter is just bad and looked worse due to him being the number 1 Corner .


So what he hasn't made a crazy impact like the 2013 year but the fact is he still was one of the best nickels in the game in game and always has a solid grade . Awareness and play recognition is were I mainly have a problem with your scouting of him .

But I agree he shouldn't have any ratings increased because he hasn't played this year but he shouldn't have any decrease either because of that . My real problem is I just think he was underrated to begin with in general.
Those ratings are used more in the run game to begin with, with him being a cover corner and being on a few new teams in multiple years that's why those ratings are lower than you may expect. I always lower them when a player goes to a new team unless that team is literally the perfect fit for a player.
 
# 35 vstro @ 12/25/16 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
Block shed is used vs the run
Has it been that way for years? I've always thought that block shedding was used in conjunction with power and finesse moves for pass rushing. If you don't mind talking a bit more about Ogbah.. what was the reasoning behind the recent drop in his block shedding? It seemed like he started the year doing pretty poorly against the run, but as of late he's been doing a lot better in that area.
 
# 36 KANE699 @ 12/26/16 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by vstro
Has it been that way for years? I've always thought that block shedding was used in conjunction with power and finesse moves for pass rushing. If you don't mind talking a bit more about Ogbah.. what was the reasoning behind the recent drop in his block shedding? It seemed like he started the year doing pretty poorly against the run, but as of late he's been doing a lot better in that area.
Oversight on my part was the reason for the big drop, also Block shed has always only been used vs the run, in conjunction with strength. Power and Finesse moves are strictly for pass rushing
 
# 37 vstro @ 12/26/16 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
Oversight on my part was the reason for the big drop, also Block shed has always only been used vs the run, in conjunction with strength. Power and Finesse moves are strictly for pass rushing
Ohhh ok, that clears a few things up for me. Thanks for the response
 
# 38 jerwoods @ 12/28/16 07:36 PM
i have done a project all year called PNow53 where i put all pra squard players on teams adj ratings etc


kane does not need me to stick up for him but his job is almost inpossable

i have done almost 300 pra squard guys i got 4 more to do tonight

here is my sys not perfect but a good base


i have Tyreek Hill KC as the fastest guy in the nfl

99-89 pro bowl elite
88-84 near all pro
83-78 solid starter
77-72 Starter level
71-67 great backup bad starter
66-62 core st guys
61-50 bottom of barrel
 
# 39 bravesfan1984 @ 12/30/16 07:25 PM
Is there not going to be an update this week?
 
# 40 hock0413 @ 12/30/16 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bravesfan1984
Is there not going to be an update this week?
Studio is closed for the holidays.
 


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