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Old 12-25-2016, 02:47 PM   #41
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He was supposed to be on IR all year, was an oversight, I could of sworn he was already on IR but he wasn't so I corrected the mistake.

The fact you are torn up about a guy who hasn't actually done anything since 2014 is concerning to me, it seems like you're pushing for this guy to be better because the other corners on the roster aren't as good as you'd hoped.

It's also more concerning you just keep mentioning his ovr rating instead of his coverage ratings which are the most important. As everyone says, PFF isn't the end all be all.

I decided to give him a minor tweak and his ovr just happened to go up to a 70, this is likely where he will remain till 18.


His coverage ratings which I didn't bring up are actually decent it's his awareness and play recognition that I brought which was the concern .


And for one don't assume on why I suggested this because I actually brought up at launch . I felt some guys could have been better mainly only Boykin and Bryce . I had no problem with Fuller or Porter our two top corners last year . Fuller was better despite being the number 2 but Porter is just bad and looked worse due to him being the number 1 Corner .


So what he hasn't made a crazy impact like the 2013 year but the fact is he still was one of the best nickels in the game in game and always has a solid grade . Awareness and play recognition is were I mainly have a problem with your scouting of him .

But I agree he shouldn't have any ratings increased because he hasn't played this year but he shouldn't have any decrease either because of that . My real problem is I just think he was underrated to begin with in general.

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Old 12-25-2016, 04:56 PM   #42
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His coverage ratings which I didn't bring up are actually decent it's his awareness and play recognition that I brought which was the concern .


And for one don't assume on why I suggested this because I actually brought up at launch . I felt some guys could have been better mainly only Boykin and Bryce . I had no problem with Fuller or Porter our two top corners last year . Fuller was better despite being the number 2 but Porter is just bad and looked worse due to him being the number 1 Corner .


So what he hasn't made a crazy impact like the 2013 year but the fact is he still was one of the best nickels in the game in game and always has a solid grade . Awareness and play recognition is were I mainly have a problem with your scouting of him .

But I agree he shouldn't have any ratings increased because he hasn't played this year but he shouldn't have any decrease either because of that . My real problem is I just think he was underrated to begin with in general.
Those ratings are used more in the run game to begin with, with him being a cover corner and being on a few new teams in multiple years that's why those ratings are lower than you may expect. I always lower them when a player goes to a new team unless that team is literally the perfect fit for a player.
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Block shed is used vs the run
Has it been that way for years? I've always thought that block shedding was used in conjunction with power and finesse moves for pass rushing. If you don't mind talking a bit more about Ogbah.. what was the reasoning behind the recent drop in his block shedding? It seemed like he started the year doing pretty poorly against the run, but as of late he's been doing a lot better in that area.
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Has it been that way for years? I've always thought that block shedding was used in conjunction with power and finesse moves for pass rushing. If you don't mind talking a bit more about Ogbah.. what was the reasoning behind the recent drop in his block shedding? It seemed like he started the year doing pretty poorly against the run, but as of late he's been doing a lot better in that area.
Oversight on my part was the reason for the big drop, also Block shed has always only been used vs the run, in conjunction with strength. Power and Finesse moves are strictly for pass rushing
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Oversight on my part was the reason for the big drop, also Block shed has always only been used vs the run, in conjunction with strength. Power and Finesse moves are strictly for pass rushing
Ohhh ok, that clears a few things up for me. Thanks for the response
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:36 PM   #46
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i have done a project all year called PNow53 where i put all pra squard players on teams adj ratings etc


kane does not need me to stick up for him but his job is almost inpossable

i have done almost 300 pra squard guys i got 4 more to do tonight

here is my sys not perfect but a good base


i have Tyreek Hill KC as the fastest guy in the nfl

99-89 pro bowl elite
88-84 near all pro
83-78 solid starter
77-72 Starter level
71-67 great backup bad starter
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Is there not going to be an update this week?
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Is there not going to be an update this week?
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