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Madden NFL 17: Play the Moments Is Better Than You Expect

09:47 AM - August 24, 2016 by RaychelSnr

I'll admit to being someone who read about Madden 17's "Play The Moments" (PTM) as being something gimmicky that I probably wouldn't touch. I have never trusted the Super Sim engine of Madden, and I like to play out all of my games in their entirety. But, I wanted to check it out anyway as it is one of Connected Franchise Mode's (CFM) new features for Madden 17.

What I wasn't expecting was that I would actually really like the feature, and plan to use it in my solo CFM.

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# 21 The JareBear @ 08/24/16 02:50 PM

I feel this mode will be great for me. This will allow me to get realistic results and have ratings play a factor, get a challenge from the CPU without having to give them huge slider boosts in every area just to compete

# 22 mrCPUgeek @ 08/24/16 03:01 PM

I have never done multiple teams before, but I think this year I am going to do just that. I will do one playing Offense only and slow speed watching the defense ( I usually just call the suggested defense plays and let the cpu do the work, so for me, this is great! Yes, I stink at defense. LOL!) then I am going to do another where I just do play the moments for a team's game. I'm actually pretty excited about getting started this year.

# 23 Brandwin @ 08/24/16 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pjburrage


	I think you get injuries in all speeds. Just that if you use Fast or Normal - it uses the Sim Engine so includes O-Line Injuries. With Slow using the Game Engine it only has Skill Player Injuries.

Que? You are talking about the sim speed in Play of The Moment feature, right? why would the sim speed impact injuries?

# 24 mrCPUgeek @ 08/24/16 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jenglund


	As someone already noted, is it basically the same as Supersim? For the past couple of years, since I have less time to play, I've played offense-only and supersimmed defense. I've had pretty decent results with that. Just wondering if this brings anything more to the table than Supersim. Thanks!

I did that last year some too, but sometimes I would accidently supersim my offense too. So, that is one thing this does help prevent.

Also, it has a much nicer feel to it to me than last year. Much easier to watch the events fold out and keep up.

# 25 Glenn33 @ 08/24/16 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jenglund


	As someone already noted, is it basically the same as Supersim? For the past couple of years, since I have less time to play, I've played offense-only and supersimmed defense. I've had pretty decent results with that. Just wondering if this brings anything more to the table than Supersim. Thanks!

In theory it's the same. But every super sim engine prior to this year has been dreadful. I'm impressed if you received realistics stats simming in prior versions. The fact is now it works - works really well - and creates scenarios where YOU don't have to manually initiate offense/defense only. It does it for you. Also as mentioned - the moments option works really well.

# 26 pjburrage @ 08/24/16 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandwin


	Que? You are talking about the sim speed in Play of The Moment feature, right? why would the sim speed impact injuries?

Yes, because there are 3 speed options of Play the Moment - Fast - Jump ahead as quickly as possible - and Normal - See details of every play - use the New Super Sim Engine that enables it to use dice rolls to determine injuries so means that Offensive Lineman can get injured.

Slow - Watch each play using the Broadcast Camera - is basically a spectator mode, with the CPU playing the game against itself until the moments pop up. One of the limitations with the Game Engine is that it determines injuries based on animations and tackles, therefore Offensive Lineman are unlikely to get injuries unless there is a fumble/interception and they get involved in the play from there.

Hence why in the article the writer mentions about Offensive Lineman getting injured at Fast and Normal speed. The user I responded to asked a question about whether injuries happened on Slow as it wasn't clear from the section of the article and I expanded on it.

# 27 Brandwin @ 08/24/16 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pjburrage


	Yes, because there are 3 speed options of Play the Moment - Fast - Jump ahead as quickly as possible - and Normal - See details of every play - use the New Super Sim Engine that enables it to use dice rolls to determine injuries so means that Offensive Lineman can get injured. Slow - Watch each play using the Broadcast Camera - is basically a spectator mode, with the CPU playing the game against itself until the moments pop up. One of the limitations with the Game Engine is that it determines injuries based on animations and tackles, therefore Offensive Lineman are unlikely to get injuries unless there is a fumble/interception and they get involved in the play from there. Hence why in the article the writer mentions about Offensive Lineman getting injured at Fast and Normal speed. The user I responded to asked a question about whether injuries happened on Slow as it wasn't clear from the section of the article and I expanded on it.

I didn't realize that with slow. Thank you for explaining.

# 28 VGSNetwork @ 08/24/16 06:27 PM

Much better than I expected. Just the right amount of "moments" and excellent simulation stats when you're not playing. Allows for great Broadcast coverage.

# 29 TheDutchDad @ 08/24/16 06:42 PM

One of my favorite new features. As a dad, work full time, wife, house, etc, this is a god send. I was able to use my little time I had last night after release to get 6 weeks into my CFM. At this pace, I'll actually be able to finish a good junk of seasons and develop drafted players. So fun!

# 30 slick1ru2 @ 08/24/16 07:01 PM

So far, it's the only way I can win a game. I sabotage myself otherwise.

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# 31 glitch3d @ 08/24/16 07:15 PM

Only bad thing I see is that your RB gets a bunch of carries. Any way to split carries? Does it account for auto subs?

# 32 Scott @ 08/24/16 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandwin


	I didn't realize that with slow. Thank you for explaining.

I was playing a game today and Seattle had a lineman get injured while on Normal.

# 33 jsteele14 @ 08/24/16 10:16 PM

I agree with the original comment on this thread. Play the Moments is far better than I expected. More different than last year's super sim than I thought it would be. The injuries look nicely balanced in this mode as well. I am actually enjoying it when I never used super sim last year.

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# 34 jsteele14 @ 08/24/16 10:18 PM

The one thing I noticed and it may just be a small sample size but when you actually get into the moments, the gameplay feels easier than it would normally be. Anyone else notice that?

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# 35 87Birdman @ 08/24/16 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jsteele14


	The one thing I noticed and it may just be a small sample size but when you actually get into the moments, the gameplay feels easier than it would normally be. Anyone else notice that? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I've had the opposite. Seems harder.

One thing I've noticed as I played with denver is the defense is either really bad in the son engine or denver defense is bad because my team is giving up over 30 points a game and the last game was over 40.

The last game I only got to try to stop them twice in the redzone and one their back broke multiple tackles. The next time the back want even covered even though a guy had him at the beginning of the play.

Another game I played against the Falcons. They had 15 points after their first 5 drives. Only because they matched down field everytime and I would play defense in the redzone and force a fg.

Currently I feel if your offense sucks and you have a good defense you will get screwed by the engine. Because no injuries on denver's defense is resulting in the computer moving the ball at will and putting up over 30 points a game.

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# 36 testorz @ 08/24/16 11:47 PM

Just knowing there's no boring Phil Simms this year raised my spirits. The commentary is well shall I dare say sexy in a masculine kind of way. LOL

# 37 N51_rob @ 08/25/16 11:43 AM

Ehh I was playing with it in a dummy franchise and I managed to get a 27-6 halftime lead and then I never got another moment as the Browns made a comeback until they were 27-21 and inside the redzone late in the 4th. I was unable to stop them and lost, which in the big picture isn't my issue its that for the entire 3rd and almost 4th quarter there was nothing for me to do? No 4 minute offense situation where I could bleed the clock to prevent them from getting another possession, no 3rd down earlier in their final drive for me to stop them and ice the game?

It is a very cool feature, but I don't think its for me.

# 38 prhiam @ 08/25/16 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by N51_rob


	Ehh I was playing with it in a dummy franchise and I managed to get a 27-6 halftime lead and then I never got another moment as the Browns made a comeback until they were 27-21 and inside the redzone late in the 4th. I was unable to stop them and lost, which in the big picture isn't my issue its that for the entire 3rd and almost 4th quarter there was nothing for me to do? No 4 minute offense situation where I could bleed the clock to prevent them from getting another possession, no 3rd down earlier in their final drive for me to stop them and ice the game? It is a very cool feature, but I don't think its for me.

You can easily stop the simulation any time that you want. It is completely customizable. I am very impressed with it so far.

# 39 shaikio @ 08/26/16 01:24 PM

For people using Play the Moments, what have you found in the sweet spot for quarter length playing on all pro? Wondering if anyone has dug into it enough to figure out what the length should be to get fairly realistic stats and all that stuff. Thanks.

# 40 Mike Lowe @ 08/26/16 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandwin


	Que? You are talking about the sim speed in Play of The Moment feature, right? why would the sim speed impact injuries?

There are two ways injuries will happen in this mode, and both work off of your sliders:

1) Playing the actual plays will limit you some--you will not see injuries to OL. This choice includes plays you actually participate in, but also when in SLOW sim speed as it's using the same game engine. This has been confirmed.

2) Sim on either fast or normal--this will still use your injury slider, but will simulate the injuries without using the game's collision/injury detection.

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