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Kevin Durant Will Sign with the Golden State Warriors - Are They Cheese in NBA 2K17?

  12:46 PM - July 4, 2016 by Yuss

Kevin Durant has announced that he will join the Golden State Warriors. Looking at the end of season NBA 2K16 ratings below, the Warriors would have 3 players with a 90+ rating with Draymond Green not far behind. No current team has more than 1 90+ rated player, not even the classic teams have more than 2 players rated 90+.

ESPN's Bomani Jones stated you can't play with that team in 2K. Are the Warriors in NBA 2K17 cheese? If you run into them online, what will you do?


Game: NBA 2K17Reader Score: 7/10 - Vote Now
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Member Comments
# 121 Hellquist @ 07/06/16 05:47 PM
It doesn't matter. I have beaten the Warriors with the freaking Blazers by 40 points. Defense is key. Just play elite defense and make them brick their shots. Get easy transition points and go on runs. It's not as bad as you would think. Also, I would be more worried about the CPU than a human. No one is going to play with this team correctly online, so you can exploit them. As one user says on here: stick skills will triumph. If you know how to play you will find a way to win no matter who you face.
 
# 122 twebb5896 @ 07/06/16 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaseB
Mid-range and post-ups are the least efficient shots on the whole. Doesn't mean you don't take them, just means overall they're the worst shots in a vacuum. In other words, dying by the 3 is just like dying by anything else, though probably less likely to kill you than dying by post up or mid range.
Just show me the stat where shots off of post ups have the same efficiency as mid-range jumpers and you've got me. You can die by any shot you're right, but the 3 ball has the greatest risk-reward because missed 3s can be long rebounds. There were more fast break points off of missed 3s in the Finals then there were off turnovers.
 
# 123 GisherJohn24 @ 07/06/16 09:16 PM
Lobbies need a triumphant return. Simple as that
 
# 124 lowsingles @ 07/07/16 12:48 AM
First of all, everyone shut up about defense first and foremost. They dumbed down offense at a criminal level... It's not the games fault, it's yours you just suck at defense. The only thing that needs patched is the pump-faking/automatic jumping glitch, besides that defense is fine.

Players will usually pick the team that gives them the best chance to win, but that doesn't mean that you can't beat them. If I'm going for the achievement to get the trophy in the GOAT again next year, than I honestly probably will choose the Warriors. I love playing with them, and curry especially since he has all of MyPlayer's animations, and his insane shooting.

The only problem 2K actually needs to address is the mental badges on lesser teams. I like to pick the Suns because they are my favorite team. The Suns are a jump shooting team, if they're not hitting they lose. Sometimes I miss my first shot of the game with booker, knight, etc. and they will be cold for the rest of the game. Huge momentum swings happen because they don't have any badges to compose themselves and that is a problem using lesser teams. All in all though, I don't see them as cheese. A fun team to play with and against.
 
# 125 LoSoisNiCEx414 @ 07/07/16 04:41 AM
2k has to let us see who are opponents are picking before the game starts and allow us to back out. I love online play but I Dont want to use my Bucks vs GSW all the time.
 
# 126 ChaseB @ 07/07/16 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by twebb5896
Just show me the stat where shots off of post ups have the same efficiency as mid-range jumpers and you've got me. You can die by any shot you're right, but the 3 ball has the greatest risk-reward because missed 3s can be long rebounds. There were more fast break points off of missed 3s in the Finals then there were off turnovers.
Sure, here you go

And I'll blow up one of the pictures as well:



The non-restricted area paint shots would help encapsulate some of the post-ups as well.

In addition, you can see post-up efficiency here for some of the top players here

If you need more NBA.com is your friend. Very easy to see how every player does on post-ups and mid-range shots for the most part.

If you want to start dragging it out to include rebounding etc. then that's a separate argument that's a bit harder to define from publicly available stats. It would also include discussing how most teams don't send many players to the offensive glass anyway etc. to avoid as many secondary breaks as possible off defensive boards.

Warriors got messed up in both the OKC and Cavs series because their transition defense was bad, either way, wouldn't dispute that -- just wouldn't necessarily blame it on their 3s, more perhaps quick shots or floor imbalance due to quick shots.
 
# 127 ksuttonjr76 @ 07/07/16 06:49 AM
Wow. Some of you are really missing the point. No one really is complaining about being unable to beat GSW. Most people are complaining, because online games are going to boring as hell playing against the same team constantly due to bandwagon users.

Right now, some users are concern whether or not we're going to be able to back out of the matchup without penalty. Players don't want to wait forever to get a non-GSW matchup or be "forced" play them due to new online penalties.
 
# 128 NahICant @ 07/07/16 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76
Wow. Some of you are really missing the point. No one really is complaining about being unable to beat GSW. Most people are complaining, because online games are going to boring as hell playing against the same team constantly due to bandwagon users.

Right now, some users are concern whether or not we're going to be able to back out of the matchup without penalty. Players don't want to wait forever to get a non-GSW matchup or be "forced" play them due to new online penalties.
Agreed. I dislike that they took away team selection. It's all about match-ups. I wont choose the same team for Every team.
 
# 129 Hustle Westbrook @ 07/07/16 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jfsolo
Here's a question for you guys. Even if you win, are you okay with playing against them 85% of the time? Is that enjoyable, facing the same squad over, and over and over again?
No but this has been happening for years in 2K. My last 5 Play Now Online games have been against the Cavs. It's annoying but it's nothing new.

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Originally Posted by lowsingles
First of all, everyone shut up about defense first and foremost. They dumbed down offense at a criminal level... It's not the games fault, it's yours you just suck at defense. The only thing that needs patched is the pump-faking/automatic jumping glitch, besides that defense is fine.

Players will usually pick the team that gives them the best chance to win, but that doesn't mean that you can't beat them. If I'm going for the achievement to get the trophy in the GOAT again next year, than I honestly probably will choose the Warriors. I love playing with them, and curry especially since he has all of MyPlayer's animations, and his insane shooting.

The only problem 2K actually needs to address is the mental badges on lesser teams. I like to pick the Suns because they are my favorite team. The Suns are a jump shooting team, if they're not hitting they lose. Sometimes I miss my first shot of the game with booker, knight, etc. and they will be cold for the rest of the game. Huge momentum swings happen because they don't have any badges to compose themselves and that is a problem using lesser teams. All in all though, I don't see them as cheese. A fun team to play with and against.
LOL maybe you just suck at offense? It's not the games fault you can't score.

I can score at will, I can't however, stop the game from freezing my player and moving him out of the way when I try to steal a pass that's in my face.
 
# 130 jeebs9 @ 07/07/16 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76
Wow. Some of you are really missing the point. No one really is complaining about being unable to beat GSW. Most people are complaining, because online games are going to boring as hell playing against the same team constantly due to bandwagon users.

Right now, some users are concern whether or not we're going to be able to back out of the matchup without penalty. Players don't want to wait forever to get a non-GSW matchup or be "forced" play them due to new online penalties.
What I want is a penalty for quitting in game. I think you should be a loud to quit at the team screen or team option screen. As long as the game hasn't started you should be able to quit. But anything after tip off. You should have to wait 15 20 (even 30 minutes) before you can play your next game. Especially in team up.

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Originally Posted by Hustle Westbrook
No but this has been happening for years in 2K. My last 5 Play Now Online games have been against the Cavs. It's annoying but it's nothing new.

You mean Heat-Cavs or any team that had LeBron on it.
 
# 131 twebb5896 @ 07/07/16 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseB
Sure, here you go

And I'll blow up one of the pictures as well:



The non-restricted area paint shots would help encapsulate some of the post-ups as well.

In addition, you can see post-up efficiency here for some of the top players here

If you need more NBA.com is your friend. Very easy to see how every player does on post-ups and mid-range shots for the most part.

If you want to start dragging it out to include rebounding etc. then that's a separate argument that's a bit harder to define from publicly available stats. It would also include discussing how most teams don't send many players to the offensive glass anyway etc. to avoid as many secondary breaks as possible off defensive boards.

Warriors got messed up in both the OKC and Cavs series because their transition defense was bad, either way, wouldn't dispute that -- just wouldn't necessarily blame it on their 3s, more perhaps quick shots or floor imbalance due to quick shots.
Those are some great stats, but wouldn't post ups include shots from the paint as well as shots from inside the restricted area? I can't dispute the numbers though. The only thing about EFG is it's really skewed to the 3 ball, however 3 is better than 2 so once again I can't dispute it. Good point.

The 3s leading to fast break points stat I pulled from ESPN a few weeks back, I wish I could find that thing it really shows how those long rebounds when the other team isn't in position to get back after a quick shot (like you said) leads to them getting burned in transition.
 
# 132 lowsingles @ 07/07/16 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hustle Westbrook
No but this has been happening for years in 2K. My last 5 Play Now Online games have been against the Cavs. It's annoying but it's nothing new.



LOL maybe you just suck at offense? It's not the games fault you can't score.

I can score at will, I can't however, stop the game from freezing my player and moving him out of the way when I try to steal a pass that's in my face.
My bad bro, I didn't mean to come off like that. I have no trouble scoring on offense unless my suns are cold. I was just making the point that defense is already good enough in my opinion, and powering it up even more anticipating this GSW team would take all of the fun and challenge out of it. I'd love chasing curry and Durant around the perimeter, instead of just being able to hold LT and stick to them like glue. This post was just for the people who expect to just run into someone and stick to them like glue.

I was strictly talking about on-ball defense, but yes pass interceptions need to be toned down for CPUs and powered up for users, in the sense that you always get a correct animation.

Ps: great gameplay videos
 
# 133 ChaseB @ 07/07/16 05:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by twebb5896
Those are some great stats, but wouldn't post ups include shots from the paint as well as shots from inside the restricted area? I can't dispute the numbers though. The only thing about EFG is it's really skewed to the 3 ball, however 3 is better than 2 so once again I can't dispute it. Good point.

The 3s leading to fast break points stat I pulled from ESPN a few weeks back, I wish I could find that thing it really shows how those long rebounds when the other team isn't in position to get back after a quick shot (like you said) leads to them getting burned in transition.
Some of the post ups absolutely come from the restricted area. I would never say a post up is bad where you literally have your guy pinned under the basket. Just saying most post ups aren't coming from that deep. Also I still love post ups, I just think they end up being the biggest strength now for kick outs rather than individual scoring there. Playing inside out is still totally viable, it's just maybe not in the "traditional" way you would play inside-out. But without a doubt, some of the best scoring numbers come off passes coming from out of the post, so a post up big who can pass is extremely valuable.
 
# 134 Hustle Westbrook @ 07/08/16 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lowsingles
My bad bro, I didn't mean to come off like that. I have no trouble scoring on offense unless my suns are cold. I was just making the point that defense is already good enough in my opinion, and powering it up even more anticipating this GSW team would take all of the fun and challenge out of it. I'd love chasing curry and Durant around the perimeter, instead of just being able to hold LT and stick to them like glue. This post was just for the people who expect to just run into someone and stick to them like glue.

I was strictly talking about on-ball defense, but yes pass interceptions need to be toned down for CPUs and powered up for users, in the sense that you always get a correct animation.

Ps: great gameplay videos
Thanks and yeah I think the on-ball defense is great in this game too (Help defense is another story lol). A lot of people don't really know how to play on-ball defense properly which is why you see a lot of complaints about it.
 
# 135 NARFALICIOUS @ 07/10/16 08:03 PM
One of the 3 will have a drop in their rating.
 
# 136 blk5tar5 @ 07/11/16 02:01 PM
Well there's bad news going forward for the GSW. Draymond G. was arrested so hopefully he will be ready before the season but if not GSW won't be the same team going forward even thou KD is there.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...arges-michigan
 
# 137 E The Rhymer @ 07/11/16 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blk5tar5
Well there's bad news going forward for the GSW. Draymond G. was arrested so hopefully he will be ready before the season but if not GSW won't be the same team going forward even thou KD is there.



http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...arges-michigan


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# 138 BOSsTOwN @ 07/13/16 06:09 PM
To answer the question its not "cheese"

people said the same thing when The C's got KG and Ray and I was blowing everyone out.
 
# 139 Pyanet @ 07/18/16 01:21 AM
What current nba team can you use to defend the warriors?
 
# 140 MarkWilliam @ 07/18/16 03:53 AM
I am thinking they WILL be cheese. As a keen OKC fan, Durant is a..... yeah.....


But until they complete their roster who's to say? They had GREAT pieces to form a 73 win team and most of those pieces are gone now. Let's see who they fill it out with, either way they ain't winning 73.....
 


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