Kevin Durant Will Sign with the Golden State Warriors - Are They Cheese in NBA 2K17?

[twebb5896]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChaseB

Mid-range and post-ups are the least efficient shots on the whole. Doesn't mean you don't take them, just means overall they're the worst shots in a vacuum. In other words, dying by the 3 is just like dying by anything else, though probably less likely to kill you than dying by post up or mid range.

Just show me the stat where shots off of post ups have the same efficiency as mid-range jumpers and you've got me. You can die by any shot you're right, but the 3 ball has the greatest risk-reward because missed 3s can be long rebounds. There were more fast break points off of missed 3s in the Finals then there were off turnovers.

[GisherJohn24]

Lobbies need a triumphant return. Simple as that

[lowsingles]

First of all, everyone shut up about defense first and foremost. They dumbed down offense at a criminal level... It's not the games fault, it's yours you just suck at defense. The only thing that needs patched is the pump-faking/automatic jumping glitch, besides that defense is fine.

Players will usually pick the team that gives them the best chance to win, but that doesn't mean that you can't beat them. If I'm going for the achievement to get the trophy in the GOAT again next year, than I honestly probably will choose the Warriors. I love playing with them, and curry especially since he has all of MyPlayer's animations, and his insane shooting.

The only problem 2K actually needs to address is the mental badges on lesser teams. I like to pick the Suns because they are my favorite team. The Suns are a jump shooting team, if they're not hitting they lose. Sometimes I miss my first shot of the game with booker, knight, etc. and they will be cold for the rest of the game. Huge momentum swings happen because they don't have any badges to compose themselves and that is a problem using lesser teams. All in all though, I don't see them as cheese. A fun team to play with and against.

[LoSoisNiCEx414]

2k has to let us see who are opponents are picking before the game starts and allow us to back out. I love online play but I Dont want to use my Bucks vs GSW all the time.

[ChaseB]

Quote: Originally Posted by twebb5896

Just show me the stat where shots off of post ups have the same efficiency as mid-range jumpers and you've got me. You can die by any shot you're right, but the 3 ball has the greatest risk-reward because missed 3s can be long rebounds. There were more fast break points off of missed 3s in the Finals then there were off turnovers.

Sure, here you go

And I'll blow up one of the pictures as well:



The non-restricted area paint shots would help encapsulate some of the post-ups as well.

In addition, you can see post-up efficiency here for some of the top players here

If you need more NBA.com is your friend. Very easy to see how every player does on post-ups and mid-range shots for the most part.

If you want to start dragging it out to include rebounding etc. then that's a separate argument that's a bit harder to define from publicly available stats. It would also include discussing how most teams don't send many players to the offensive glass anyway etc. to avoid as many secondary breaks as possible off defensive boards.

Warriors got messed up in both the OKC and Cavs series because their transition defense was bad, either way, wouldn't dispute that -- just wouldn't necessarily blame it on their 3s, more perhaps quick shots or floor imbalance due to quick shots.

[ksuttonjr76]

Wow. Some of you are really missing the point. No one really is complaining about being unable to beat GSW. Most people are complaining, because online games are going to boring as hell playing against the same team constantly due to bandwagon users.

Right now, some users are concern whether or not we're going to be able to back out of the matchup without penalty. Players don't want to wait forever to get a non-GSW matchup or be "forced" play them due to new online penalties.

[NahICant]

Quote: Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76

Wow. Some of you are really missing the point. No one really is complaining about being unable to beat GSW. Most people are complaining, because online games are going to boring as hell playing against the same team constantly due to bandwagon users. Right now, some users are concern whether or not we're going to be able to back out of the matchup without penalty. Players don't want to wait forever to get a non-GSW matchup or be "forced" play them due to new online penalties.

Agreed. I dislike that they took away team selection. It's all about match-ups. I wont choose the same team for Every team.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

Here's a question for you guys. Even if you win, are you okay with playing against them 85% of the time? Is that enjoyable, facing the same squad over, and over and over again?

No but this has been happening for years in 2K. My last 5 Play Now Online games have been against the Cavs. It's annoying but it's nothing new.

Quote: Originally Posted by lowsingles

First of all, everyone shut up about defense first and foremost. They dumbed down offense at a criminal level... It's not the games fault, it's yours you just suck at defense. The only thing that needs patched is the pump-faking/automatic jumping glitch, besides that defense is fine. Players will usually pick the team that gives them the best chance to win, but that doesn't mean that you can't beat them. If I'm going for the achievement to get the trophy in the GOAT again next year, than I honestly probably will choose the Warriors. I love playing with them, and curry especially since he has all of MyPlayer's animations, and his insane shooting. The only problem 2K actually needs to address is the mental badges on lesser teams. I like to pick the Suns because they are my favorite team. The Suns are a jump shooting team, if they're not hitting they lose. Sometimes I miss my first shot of the game with booker, knight, etc. and they will be cold for the rest of the game. Huge momentum swings happen because they don't have any badges to compose themselves and that is a problem using lesser teams. All in all though, I don't see them as cheese. A fun team to play with and against.

LOL maybe you just suck at offense? It's not the games fault you can't score.

I can score at will, I can't however, stop the game from freezing my player and moving him out of the way when I try to steal a pass that's in my face.