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NBA Live 15 Video and Blog - Offensive Improvements

01:59 PM - October 1, 2014 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has released a new NBA Live 15 video showcasing the offensive improvements to the game. While it's not the 5 on 5 gameplay most of us were hoping for, at least we have something.

They have also posted a blog, going over the improvements to the AI with regards to fast breaks, pick and rolls and playcalling.

Watch the video, read the blog and post your thoughts.

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# 161 GisherJohn24 @ 10/02/14 09:30 AM

For me, it's all I got left and it's do or die for the franchise. I can't see them giving out just okay product and waiting for next year to be better anymore. This is it, this is their time to make it playable and fun and make it so we have something good until the next one. If they don't make it fun, then there may not be a next year once word of mouth goes out. Live 14 left a dirty taste in my mouth, i liked some of the aspects of it, but it's time for EA to keep their promises and making Live fun again.

I'm buying this game without question, but if I feel like I've been ripped off and the game does not meet the expectations, this will be the last time. But I'm very optimistic for this year, I like what I see and I think I'm going to be playing 2 basketball games this year, and that's okay with me.

# 162 GisherJohn24 @ 10/02/14 10:49 AM

Friends any word on roster editing?

# 163 DBMcGee3 @ 10/02/14 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24


	For me, it's all I got left and it's do or die for the franchise. I can't see them giving out just okay product and waiting for next year to be better anymore. This is it, this is their time to make it playable and fun and make it so we have something good until the next one. If they don't make it fun, then there may not be a next year once word of mouth goes out. Live 14 left a dirty taste in my mouth, i liked some of the aspects of it, but it's time for EA to keep their promises and making Live fun again. I'm buying this game without question, but if I feel like I've been ripped off and the game does not meet the expectations, this will be the last time. But I'm very optimistic for this year, I like what I see and I think I'm going to be playing 2 basketball games this year, and that's okay with me.

I feel the same way John. I have the utmost respect for the 2k series, and I've played the absolute hell out of that game for the past 4 years. They always make a great game with tons of features, which is a pretty decent replication of the real thing. That being said, I keep watching the gameplay videos that have been released for 2k15, and it just isn't lighting that same fire under me anymore.

For me, if Live can come anywhere close in the gameplay department, I'd be willing to give it a whirl just for a fresh experience. I thought this video looked pretty good, although I'm apparently in the minority on that one. The animations may not be quite as smooth, but they're still pretty damn good in my opinion, and the player models are actually better than 2k in my eyes. Where I think EA should really focus its efforts is the online experience. If they can get things right with their servers, and more importantly, if they can actually keep the rosters updated FREQUENTLY and accurately, I think it would win more people over. How many years have we all complained about 2ks inadequacies in these areas?

# 164 La Verite @ 10/02/14 11:02 AM

Nice to see good energy with the comments. So glad EA is detailed in what is improved because this was the main one, especially with fast breaks!

# 165 CBfromCU32 @ 10/02/14 11:10 AM

Smh at this game man cuz I want it to be good but it just doesnt look like basketball.. Until the game "looks" next gen I won't be able to play it.. The player models, graphics, movement, animations, everything Im seeing doesn't look right.. nothing gives me that wow factor visually.. I just don't like they way this game looks and animates tbh.. Yea it looks better than live 14 but that's not saying much 14 was a horrible game visually & gameplay..

# 166 King_B_Mack @ 10/02/14 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by El_Poopador


	While I agree that it would be great to see them taking the deep dive into things like AI, they have said all along this year that the focus was on graphics and controls. The "basic fundamental basketball stuff" may not be what you're looking for, but I think they are trying to show that they have the fundamentals down this year. Everything they did talk about was an issue last year. Don't get me wrong; I would love to see everything you mentioned as well. But from where they started last year, it's not reasonable to expect in a single cycle. Even on 2k's side, with a complete foundation to build from, they weren't able to get everything they wanted or that has been asked for this year. So to expect that from Live in the same amount of time, is a bit unreasonable. I don't think the Visuals trailer was necessarily for hype, but more just to showcase that they improved the graphics and a lot of the animations. Yea, a lot of the player movements are still stiff and awkward looking, but they are still much better than last year. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't expect a big leap. But we need to be more aware of what is possible in a single cycle. From what I've seen, they've done a lot to improve the game in one year, and as long as they keep improving and listening to feedback, I'll be interested to see what they're doing. Whether it's worth purchasing or not remains to be seen, and for me personally, the demo will be the deciding factor.

This is not even close to the comparison you're trying to make. First of all, did they get to all the improvements they wanted to? No of course not it is a one year cycle. But they still got to a gigantic heaping of issues that people had with last years game. Nearly every single issue that was brought up with 2K14 was addressed this year in some fashion. As developers, sure they didn't get to everything they WANTED to get to, but as far as we can see thus far, they got to everything they NEEDED to get to.

As usual with this series though, things that are sitting front and center on the need to get done list didn't because we focus on things that isn't already broken. Fix what's broken or non-existent first and then get to that other stuff.

# 167 El_Poopador @ 10/02/14 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack


	This is not even close to the comparison you're trying to make. First of all, did they get to all the improvements they wanted to? No of course not it is a one year cycle. But they still got to a gigantic heaping of issues that people had with last years game. Nearly every single issue that was brought up with 2K14 was addressed this year in some fashion. As developers, sure they didn't get to everything they WANTED to get to, but as far as we can see thus far, they got to everything they NEEDED to get to.

I don't want to turn this into a Live vs 2k argument, because that's not what I was trying to do. My point was that even though 2k was already pretty much a complete game that many people thought was great on the court, they still couldn't address a lot of things they wanted to get to. Just looking through the conversations with Da_Czar, you can see there was a lot he wanted to do, but didn't have the time. Then, on Live's side, you had a game from last year that the majority felt was lacking in almost every aspect. So I wouldn't expect the same level of polish, when they needed to work on a lot of bigger issues first.

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	As usual with this series though, things that are sitting front and center on the need to get done list didn't because we focus on things that isn't already broken. Fix what's broken or non-existent first and then get to that other stuff.

I think that's up for debate. Visuals were a huge area of complaint from last year's game, starting with the very first trailer they released. Non-responsive controls were another. The lack of contact in the paint was probably the single biggest issue that most people had, including myself. Yes, animation quality can certainly use work, but it's not a gamebreaker as it stands now.

# 168 GisherJohn24 @ 10/02/14 11:41 AM

Good input here. I think what it will come down to as long as the gameplay is smooth and feels like basketball again, the deciding factor if Live is viable again is AI. Needs to be somewhat competent and must feel like real basketball again. LIVE 14 I felt at times players were dumber than a box of bricks. If players aren't moving, aren't trying to get open or what have you, on top of moving organically that is, then I'll be sorely disappointed. But again , my optimism is somewhat high for 15 but I know those trailers I saw for 14 did the same thing in making me think it's gonna be special. But.... the difference this year is that we've seen a lot more teasing and it's still 26 days away and I expect more gameplay videos before launch.

Being generous, if Live 14 was getting around 6.0 ratings we should expect 8.0 for 15. Anything less imo is a big downer

# 169 Junior Moe @ 10/02/14 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	Man, I just can't get behind "it being better than last year" as a form of praise. Guess I just expected nothing less than faces being scanned, animations being improved...they were near the bottom of the barrel last year. That's not to say I don't appreciate the additions of things like "rag doll physics" or some of the other improvements in this video...

Exactly! All of that stuff is nice and dandy but it doesn't entice me to purchase the game this year. It's progress and it may lead to a purchase next year if the rest of the game is up to snuff. But I cant get onboard with an "improvement" or "best Live yet". Having NBA videogame competition is not my cross to bear. Live is competing with Madden, Destiny, Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K, GTA V and probably WWE2K. I don't have any coin to waste. I want the best product, or a fundamentally different product that is produced well. I don't usually purchase two videogames from the same sport. If NBA Live excelled at user control and physics, for instance, and did those things really well then I would pick the game up even with a few hiccups and the lack of modes because that's a "new" experience for me. That's what I am looking for.

# 170 loosey101 @ 10/02/14 12:16 PM

Live 14 failed miserably, let's not try and act like it was even a good game. However, I played the crap out of it and enjoyed certain aspects. Now, after seeing these trailers and short clips of gameplay, I can tell this will be light years better. Do I think it's going to be a game changer hell no, but to me personally, I think it will extremely enjoyable. I just don't get why people are getting attacked on the Live forum when they say "good job EA" or "man this is a day one buy." If you dislike Live and you aren't interested in playing, that's fine but don't attack others when they say they want to and vice versa. I'm just ready for the game to release already because some of you guys are driving me to look at the forums less and less.

# 171 Cabish @ 10/02/14 12:39 PM

I am like you moe,I don't hVe money,time and energy to baby no damn million dollar company,I want the best and Realest simulation for my money and I'm not buying two games just because one game does shoes and headbands and cross over moves better than a game that is a better total package,doesnt give a sht about me as a customer and IF (like the rock ) lol if they cared about me as a customer they wouldn't have bought excluive to the NFL ,college footballlicense ,shape the hell up and make a good game in nba live,stop feeding us crap on bull

# 172 The 24th Letter @ 10/02/14 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by loosey101


	Live 14 failed miserably, let's not try and act like it was even a good game. However, I played the crap out of it and enjoyed certain aspects. Now, after seeing these trailers and short clips of gameplay, I can tell this will be light years better. Do I think it's going to be a game changer hell no, but to me personally, I think it will extremely enjoyable. I just don't get why people are getting attacked on the Live forum when they say "good job EA" or "man this is a day one buy." If you dislike Live and you aren't interested in playing, that's fine but don't attack others when they say they want to and vice versa. I'm just ready for the game to release already because some of you guys are driving me to look at the forums less and less.

Who's being attacked though?....I don't know if you took my comment in particular that way, but if you did that's not how it was meant. In general, it should be understood that not every non positive post is an attack on on the game or fans of the game.

# 173 Dr. Banner @ 10/02/14 01:05 PM

It's a step in the right direction.

# 174 Da-Man @ 10/02/14 01:11 PM

As long as it's playable this year I'm in.

# 175 loosey101 @ 10/02/14 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	Who's being attacked though?....I don't know if you took my comment in particular that way, but if you did that's not how it was meant. In general, it should be understood that not every non positive post is an attack on on the game or fans of the game.

Naw not you 24th I def know you post positive and negative things on live. I agree though EA needs to be criticized on certain aspects by I think it goes overboard when people constantly get attacked for saying good things.

# 176 swac07 @ 10/02/14 01:14 PM

Playmakers, 24, King B, 23 , and Sage are in here really shedding some light on things!!!! Respect!!

I think the game visually looks great (90 percent of players' likenesses,shoes, and arenas) but it just seems like everything else they are displaying gameplay wise they arent confident in.

I will say I did dislike that an action cutaway camera was used to show off the passing/fastbreak instead of maybe a broadcast camera so you could actually see the speed and trajectory of each pass from one player to another in real time.That has questionable written all over it not necessarily the game but the tactics used to show off alot of those features. I just feel the whole trailer was rushed from the gameplay improvements(use of action cams) to even the narrator of the trailer. Thats just odd to me.

Ps.
Whats up with that celtics green on their jerseys? It needs fixing it looks like a shiny emerald green.

# 177 whoahello @ 10/02/14 01:54 PM

Yea I'm going to pass on this. There's just too many impressive features and modes on 2K.

# 178 Playmakers @ 10/02/14 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Da-Man


	As long as it's playable this year I'm in.

This comment is why EA keeps taking the easy way out....

I could care less about who buys the game and who doesn't but to me it just seems as if this company gets a free pass time after time with Live.

How many times have they decided to pull the plug and start from scratch on us only to havus wait 2-3 years just for a game that we can call playable?

Live 10 was playable....

Heck even the train wrecks from Live 07-09 could be edited to a certain extent to make just playable.

It's been long overdue for us to have a NBA Live Game that is beyond just playable IMO.

The things some of you guys are willing to settle for now days in this day and age of video sports gaming is unreal.

We spend $400-500 bucks on a next gen system and anther $60 bucks on the games just to say "as long as it's playable I'm in"

# 179 GisherJohn24 @ 10/02/14 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	This comment is why EA keeps taking the easy way out.... I could care less about who buys the game and who doesn't but to me it just seems as if this company gets a free pass time after time with Live. How many times have they decided to pull the plug and start from scratch on us only to havus wait 2-3 years just for a game that we can call playable? Live 10 was playable.... Heck even the train wrecks from Live 07-09 could be edited to a certain extent to make just playable. It's been long overdue for us to have a NBA Live Game that is beyond just playable IMO. The things some of you guys are willing to settle for now days in this day and age of video sports gaming is unreal. We spend $400-500 bucks on a next gen system and anther $60 bucks on the games just to say "as long as it's playable I'm in"

People rip on 08 and 09 Live, but ya know what? While they were unrealisitc and tons of cheese, they were FUN. I still have more fun playing Live 09 than I did with 14 and certainly Elite that never was. It proves you don't need to have a so called "sim" game to be fun. Live was still making decent cash with 09 and 08, and even the joke of Live 07 and even 06. But those games at least had the mechanics working well enough to have some fun to be had. That's all I want with 15. Fun factor. IF I got Chris Paul dunking on Dwight Howard on a fast break, guess what? Count me in as long as I'm having fun doing it.

# 180 King_B_Mack @ 10/02/14 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24


	People rip on 08 and 09 Live, but ya know what? While they were unrealisitc and tons of cheese, they were FUN. I still have more fun playing Live 09 than I did with 14 and certainly Elite that never was. It proves you don't need to have a so called "sim" game to be fun. Live was still making decent cash with 09 and 08, and even the joke of Live 07 and even 06. But those games at least had the mechanics working well enough to have some fun to be had. That's all I want with 15. Fun factor. IF I got Chris Paul dunking on Dwight Howard on a fast break, guess what? Count me in as long as I'm having fun doing it.

Then you should be petitioning for the return of NBA Street sir. NBA Live and simulation basketball games isn't the place for you.

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