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# 102
SageInfinite @ 07/04/14 06:05 PM
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SageInfinite @ 07/04/14 06:13 PM
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SageInfinite @ 07/04/14 06:19 PM
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Senator Palmer @ 07/04/14 07:16 PM
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I'll tell you were my sketicism is coming from. You cite Cam's presence quite a bit as some determining factor in the game making a drastic change from the previous cycles. Well, I'll tell you I was terribly excited when he came on; even moreso when I found out that he was a former quarterback. I thought finally, we'd see some real authenticity. We've got a man running the show that actually played the game.
At the very least I was sure that the quarterback play would be greatly improved, but in the three years that Cam has been head of the show I could argue that the quarterback play has gotten worse (at best it has stagnated). They seem to have gone away from signature throwing motions. Quarterback ball carriage is horrible. Footwork in the pocket is horrible, QB rollouts against their throwing shoulder are horrible, the dropbacks and pivots from under center to hand the ball off are exactly the same as they've been since the PS2 days. Even with the new little animations they've added (the little flip for instance) nothing's really changed the dynamic of that position.
Furthermore, there's talk out of both sides of the Madden machine that they are all about creating an absolute sim of a game, yet last year when the question was asked to Clint Oldenburg about botches snaps and such being included, his response was basically they're not really pushing for that kinda thing because of tournament guys. I'm paraphrasing the but the answer was basically, they can't have a guy lose a tourney game on a dice roll play like that that the user has no contol over.
After all that one has to wonder just how much of a stamp Cam and this team are really putting on this game, because so far it seems business as usual; the yearly incremental upgrade. Better? Yes. But groundbreaking and putting all games before it to shame? No.
(On a slight sidenote because that botched snap thing really bothered me when I read it:)
Why is it that a game like The Show is able to have options upon options, I mean endless options, yet Madden still takes the cookie-cutter, all things to all people approach? In The Show, for example, you have the choice between throwing interfaces for your fielders. One (BUTTONS ACCURACY) where the user in 100% control of the throwing power and accuracy, or another one (BUTTONS) where you just control the throwing power and the ratings dictate the outcomes. And every once in a while on BUTTONS you'll see and offline throw or a throw over someone's head.
Now some people in community hated having something like that randomly happen in the game. But instead of eliminating bad throws from fielders, they added the BUTTONS ACCURACY option. Why is that Madden has never been able to do something along those lines? How much creative vision does something like that take?
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What were they thinking when they recorded the "That's an interception" commentary? He couldn't have sounded less interested and excited if he tried.
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Kramer5150 @ 07/04/14 09:11 PM
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I'm tired of hearing that the "tech" isn't available...which is clearly not correct,as the stuff we're asking for as been done.
Madden has been playing catch-up for almost 10 years now,not only with "other football" games,but other sports games in general.
How sad is it that it takes a "breakdown" of an E3 vid to see improvements in gameplay?....if the additions were as prominent as EA claimed,then they would pop out of the screen....and why would they do that? because Madden has been so bad in areas,that the improvements would be easy to see.
As it stands now,we need to see a "breakdown" of gameplay to see anything.
Also,if you feel the need to label me an EA *****...think again,I play the living daylights outta NCAA 14,and have played every Madden since 99.
If for what ever reason you need my "Madden credentials" before 99,I was playing music in bands...so video games weren't on my radar at the time.
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I'm going to wait for 15 to come out before I reply to some of this stuff. I've felt all along that Cam & Rex's vision was for next gen, so 15 will be a better barometer of this team's potential.
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# 114
Kramer5150 @ 07/05/14 01:06 AM
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So many excuses...it's so comical at this point.
# 115
thesubmittedone @ 07/05/14 02:19 AM
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Why are you still placing your hope in a team that clearly doesn't deserve it? They don't deserve the effort you've put on here debating people for them. It's such utter bs that you've given so much for them and all they've done is shame you.
It's time you realize they don't deserve your optimism anymore. They've failed. Miserably.
That's not saying they're not improving this game or doing a better job than other teams at Tiburon have in the past. I think they are. But this game is in no way, shape or form a good game in comparison to any next gen offering let alone the vast majority of current gen games. If you narrow it down to just sports titles, it's arguably the worst one.
There's simply no way of dressing that up. I know deep down you see it. I know you must've been extremely disappointed when you saw the E3 videos this year. You deserved better and it's time you started seeing that.
# 116
kjcheezhead @ 07/05/14 11:35 AM
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Where I lost my faith with this team going true sim was Madden 13 and the decision to add "throw a wr open". That was the most arcade addition to this game in years and it was one of the first ones this team implemented.
If madden is ever going to a true simulation it has to go to route based passing at some point. Adding that would've fixed qb accuracy, improved the defense and balanced the game more than any addition they've done to this year's game. These devs cater to the tourney crowd just like previous teams though so it'll probably never happen.
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Madden 15 is the turning point of this franchise. That's my new slogan, I'll make t shirts if you want, I'm THAT confident in this.
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Because you keep saying everyone needs to play to see all of these things being touted. So surely you have played it since you're saying they're all there and work great.
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