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Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seahawks vs. 49ers (Smitty)

12:12 PM - July 3, 2014 by Steve_OS

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# 21 m0ney_moon @ 07/03/14 02:45 PM

Apparently EA needs to hire ppl who actually play madden. Same Commentary, same animations, same gameplay. Again, EA deceives us with the trailer.... I wish 2k sports would release a football game already.

# 22 hanzsomehanz @ 07/03/14 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	Interception animation was awful. I liked Kaep's throwing animation on the touchdown, seemed fluid, and the Boldin catch was kool.

Yea I thought that was a clutch throw, on the money! I am left to wonder why Sherman pulled up though - if he had not of pulled up he may of very well made a play on the ball.

I love the block shedding by Aldon Smith. Pocket is not compressing but the pressure is there. If there is no pocket compression then we need some insta block shedding to at least hurry the QB of we cannot contain him fundamentally.

That toss play that ended outside left me a bit concerned because I did not see any edge defenders. The back got outside so quickly cause all the LB's seemed to crash the interior of the trench albeit there may have been a mid blitz called.

I am not seeing any heat-seeker tackles nor am I seeing any rediculous shoestring dives. The absense of these lazy tactics is making the tackle and run game look more organic albeit there is still work to be done to introduce more tackling interactions.

Overall, the game still plays like M25 for 360 but it does play noticably better. I am starting to warm up to the visuals but I am yet to see the D really standout in any way that screams, "this is the year of the D!" and that is the most underwhelming takeaway.

While EA may very well miss the mark on actually portraying a mean defensive style gauntlet game it does not takeaway from the fact that the game is improving but I am still deflated by the former point.

The D lacks the soul and it may be due in part to so much focus on making individual olays opposed to championship football that predicates itself on swarming to the ball and playing fundamental team defense.

Sherm did not look clutch in any way. P Willy made a great stop on the screen but the game is still fundamentally wide open for 1v1 user plays which is why it is still like M25 old gen at the core of gameplay.

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# 23 greenegt @ 07/03/14 02:51 PM

I'm really liking the graphical detail and presentation updates. The game looks much better in those departments. Still some legacy issues that I would like to see fixed (wr/db interaction, working penalties, etc.), but it looks like it'll be fun.

# 24 strawberryshortcake @ 07/03/14 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother3Wright


	"MoCap" no, but you can rotoscope from video reference. And just for general consumption, good MoCap is always touched up by animators. MoCap is just a good base to start from, but there's still issues that need to be resolved.

Would you care either further elaborate on these "issues" or link to sources that goes further on the "clean up" process of motion captures?

# 25 BezO @ 07/03/14 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake


	The issue with in studio motion capture seems to steam from the poor directing, and the fact that it differs from real game adrenaline infused performance.

Word!!!

When I 1st saw this vid, I realized why the animations are so bad. No determination, no struggle. The animations are too scripted. "OK, let's get a pancack animation. Go!" So the guy getting pancaked provides no resistance. They should instead let guys battle and record what happens.

# 26 SageInfinite @ 07/03/14 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake


	The issue with in studio motion capture seems to steam from the poor directing, and the fact that it differs from real game adrenaline infused performance. @3:02 mark "... and then Eldon will look at the data after it's been capture and he can clean it up. When he's done, he'll send the data off to the game team and they'll put it on the model ... " Not exactly sure what his definition of "clean it up" is. @2:31 mark: One of the motion capture director does a QB drop back "bounce" in place. Very robotic scripted "bounce." This "bounce" is frequently seen in Madden's QB, but I have never really seen it in a real life game. This Madden bounce lacks a real purpose. I have included video highlights of both Drew Brees and Russell Wilson below. Take notice of their drop back bounces in the pocket. @2:57 mark: Not sure why they would motion capture a slowed down version of a play action pass (hand off) @3:24 mark: Not exactly sure what that is suppose to depict. Either a possible reception or an interception, but that particular "jump towards the ball" motion capture doesn't represent anything I have seen in a real life game. I think it's what's seen during a swat in Madden. It looks poorly scripted, and poorly executed by the motion capture artist. Notice how the QB "bounce" in the pocket (e.g. Russell Wilson, Drew Brees) has real purpose unlike the Madden's motion captured or directed QB "bounce." Madden's QB "bounce" looks to be aesthetics only with no real purpose.

Dope post. Another big problem with the mo-cap as you stated, the direction and talent. Add that with the bad implementation, you get the mess we have today. Doesn't look to be changing either.

# 27 SageInfinite @ 07/03/14 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hanzsomehanz


	Yea I thought that was a clutch throw, on the money! I am left to wonder why Sherman pulled up though - if he had not of pulled up he may of very well made a play on the ball.

Pretty sure it was a user controlled error that made him pull up like that. Not that that doesn't happen in Madden 25 all the time, but I think this specifically was user controlled.

# 28 Brother3Wright @ 07/03/14 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake


	Would you care either further elaborate on these "issues" or link to sources that goes further on the "clean up" process of motion captures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzChtcqBRk

With any motion capture you're always going to have inconsistencies between what the motion from the actor was, and what the rig actually recorded. Things like fingers don't get recorded. Forearm rotation, depending on the complexity of your rig can be limited. The way the head moves on a neck is something that's very easy to make look unnatrual from mocap, it can look like the head is "floating" above the shoulders with the neck just skin that connects them.

MoCap also tends to create small little movements that create a stutter, or shake to the animation. As an animator I want clean, easily read movements that have a sense of real weight to them. MoCap can give me a base for this movement, but the stutters it creates need to be edited out to give a cleaner more natural look to the movement.

Animations also have to be retargeted to work with the model rigs you're using like in the video above. Doing this can warp your model if it isn't weighted correctly, or applied correctly.

These are just a couple examples, but what most people think of as "MoCap" is not an end-all be-all for animation. It's one tool that can help dramatically speed up the animation process, but still needs a lot of work after to get a finished, polished product.

# 29 jpdavis82 @ 07/03/14 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m0ney_moon


	Apparently EA needs to hire ppl who actually play madden. Same Commentary, same animations, same gameplay. Again, EA deceives us with the trailer.... I wish 2k sports would release a football game already.

Keep calm and troll on

# 30 SageInfinite @ 07/03/14 03:30 PM

They gotta add back the head tracking to the ball carrier as well. They look when they point out a defender for a blocker, but that's all I really see. Break away runs I'd like to see runners looking back to see how close defenders are.

On the Gore outside run you can definitely see the lack of head tracking.

# 31 jpdavis82 @ 07/03/14 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	They gotta add back the head tracking to the ball carrier as well. They look when they point out a defender for a blocker, but that's all I really see. Break away runs I'd like to see runners looking back to see how close defenders are.

That would be cool to see, I don't think I've ever seen that done well in a football game.

# 32 Rams_3 @ 07/03/14 04:46 PM

Meh. I just hate the way madden animates. Looks stiff. I guess the ignite engine was all talk. I can't tell as far as the immersion goes. Waaaay to many one on one tackles. SAME OL STUFF JUST A DIFFERENT GAME. Smh

# 33 FBall Life @ 07/03/14 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	That would be cool to see, I don't think I've ever seen that done well in a football game.

It was excellent in Backbreaker.

# 34 jpdavis82 @ 07/03/14 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams_3


	Meh. I just hate the way madden animates. Looks stiff. I guess the ignite engine was all talk. I can't tell as far as the immersion goes. Waaaay to many one on one tackles. SAME OL STUFF JUST A DIFFERENT GAME. Smh

The Ignite Engine is for all EA Sports titles it was definitely not all talk, the physics tech that's new for pileups and in the future gang tackling, is part of Ignite.

# 35 jmurphy31 @ 07/03/14 06:09 PM

It's a small thing presentation wise, but I like the NFL wipe into replays

# 36 yardz23 @ 07/03/14 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	Nice consecutive hit tackle on INT out of bounds, live how the camera shows Wilson after the INT, that's true broadcast there. Liked how Gore broke out of the tackle to keep running. Lots of good stuff to see here, more good than bad. Also liked the jumbotron after the TD.

Very true. Loved that collision on the sideline. The second defender didn't just stand by which is great.

One thing that does bother is how the spin move is utilized as a juke move, and is more effective than than the juke move.

On that Gore stretch play to the right, he spins in the open field and it dazzles the AI defender (pretty sure it wasn't User controlled). Spin should be used as a breaktackle measure not as an avoid contact measure.

# 37 Jerros @ 07/03/14 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hanzsomehanz


	Yea I thought that was a clutch throw, on the money! I am left to wonder why Sherman pulled up though - if he had not of pulled up he may of very well made a play on the ball. I love the block shedding by Aldon Smith. Pocket is not compressing but the pressure is there. If there is no pocket compression then we need some insta block shedding to at least hurry the QB of we cannot contain him fundamentally. That toss play that ended outside left me a bit concerned because I did not see any edge defenders. The back got outside so quickly cause all the LB's seemed to crash the interior of the trench albeit there may have been a mid blitz called. I am not seeing any heat-seeker tackles nor am I seeing any rediculous shoestring dives. The absense of these lazy tactics is making the tackle and run game look more organic albeit there is still work to be done to introduce more tackling interactions. Overall, the game still plays like M25 for 360 but it does play noticably better. I am starting to warm up to the visuals but I am yet to see the D really standout in any way that screams, "this is the year of the D!" and that is the most underwhelming takeaway. While EA may very well miss the mark on actually portraying a mean defensive style gauntlet game it does not takeaway from the fact that the game is improving but I am still deflated by the former point. The D lacks the soul and it may be due in part to so much focus on making individual olays opposed to championship football that predicates itself on swarming to the ball and playing fundamental team defense. Sherm did not look clutch in any way. P Willy made a great stop on the screen but the game is still fundamentally wide open for 1v1 user plays which is why it is still like M25 old gen at the core of gameplay. Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk

One thing I have always hated about Madden is the lack of catch animations. Every receiver seems sure footed 95 percent of the time. Seeing a dive catch is like spotting a unicorn. I was playing APF 2k8 last night and the variety of catches in that game are ridiculous. There are even catches where receivers slide on their knees to make the reception. Receivers falling backwards off balance to adjust to the ball. That's just a small sample of the variety you can find in that game. Also, the illusion of line play in Madden is so frustrating. Watch the videos above of real NFL footage and show me one play where O-linemen simply turn forward looking down field once the defender they were blocking gets past them. Where's the pursuit and continuing to play through to regain their protection in case the qb steps up into the pocket or escapes? Simple o-line logic., where is it? It's been far too many years for these things to not be a given in Madden by now.

# 38 jaynral @ 07/03/14 07:25 PM

Okay...this video was better than the last 2 videos but with these same animations, the game is going to get boring very quickly.....but i enjoyed the video more...i dont know if it was more impressive or mentally we all have slowly lowered our standards again......That toss play still look to easy and may eventually be a cheese which is ironic cause that is the hardest play to run in the NFL.......the spin move was bad again!!....I dont have nothing to say about that.......Im glad i saw one but still on the fence that we only saw one 2 man tackle...this is football, gang tackling happens almost every down and last but not least, still no wow or no damn play/animation play...lets be honest, this could have been a 360/PS3 video..I still want next gen stuff!!!

# 39 Branchurian @ 07/03/14 08:01 PM

No matter how you spin, no matter what "innovations" is included, Madden is still Madden. Same game through & through. I feel like Chris from Family Guy when referring to Kevin Costner "How does this guy keep getting work!?" Well if the sheep like it then Madden will continue to prevail....

# 40 jpdavis82 @ 07/03/14 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Segagendude


	Looked like NHL 15...Lol And where are the living sidelines??

The players do react to the plays, I saw Brock come off the bench and congratulate Gore on a nice run in a video. The crowd audio and models respond better and there's more atmosphere with the crowd overall. Coaches react more now too. They are still developing the Living Worlds feature. Hopefully they will get to where FIFA is with Living Worlds soon, their crowds are amazing.

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